| Author |
Topic |
King Leopold
Caldari
Congo Free State
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Posted - 2008.11.07 08:00:00 - [ 1]
a new ccp money making scheme? perhaps?
ok, back to my tobacco plantation making sure those Matari slaves don't smoke up the profits.. |
destinationZERO
Minmatar
Pain Management Services
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 10:01:00 - [ 2]
Edited by: destinationZERO on 07/11/2008 16:12:41
uuuumm... yeah, stay in that plantation please, thanks! :)
edit : easy first! |
Firkragg
Amarr
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2008.11.07 11:19:00 - [ 3]
Well one of the main issues was that before stackless IO it was almost impossible for a fleet big enough to kill the titan and the titans support fleet to actually all get into system and engage. Now you can meaning titans cant be saved just by crashing the node |
Proxay
Gallente
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2008.11.07 11:22:00 - [ 4]
You're smart, and stuff. What a giant post, contributing a lot towards this topic of how stackless IO is affecting titan death rates, and how this could tie in with a plan by CCP to gain more revenue. Your ideas and theories are well documented and provide ample evidence to have a lengthy and well mannered discussion on.
[/sarcasm] |
Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 12:21:00 - [ 5]
I thinks its more to do with titans becoming more available, and more affordable, and inevitably people who are dumb are getting them (dungar, f4ze, that guy in the drone regions who doomsdayed all his own alliance labs inside his tower) which is resulting in their comedy deaths (f4ze, shrike) |
Dark Angelete
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 13:19:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: Dark Angelete on 07/11/2008 14:23:37
i think it has to do with what the one decent titan death recently?that being sir molles first one in actual battle.
the last two have been meta bumped out of pos.legit kills in this day in eve?sure.though most were un prepared pilots being meta gamed out of pos using pw and bumping.not like it was omg uber combat that got them caught.
{for morons}(see below) its not like it was drag out pvp battles that held stable because of new servers.most recent titan deaths are from meta gaming.this is still legit in eve.but it had nothing to do with the new server structure being uber stable. |
Colonel Xaven
Caldari
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 13:53:00 - [ 7]
 Originally by: Dark Angelete
i think it has to do with what the one decent titan death recently?that being sir molles first one in actual battle.
the last two have been meta bumped out of pos.legit kills in this day in eve?sure.though most were un prepared pilots being meta gamed out of pos using pw and bumping.not like it was omg uber combat that got them caught.
So when a NC titan dies coz of being compromised by a spy, it is a legit kill. But a GBC titan sleeping at a pos with a compromised password is meta-gaming. Is this what you wanna say? |
Thimerion
Minmatar
BOAE INC
-Mostly Harmless- |
Posted - 2008.11.07 13:58:00 - [ 8]
BoB play by a different set of rules to the rest of us, we all know this. |
Dark Angelete
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 14:10:00 - [ 9]
Edited by: Dark Angelete on 07/11/2008 14:20:07 Originally by: Colonel Xaven
jumping to conclusions
no muppet read.it had nothing to do with more stable servers.get it?i know its hard for rzr d team to unerstand the op.but try. |
Colonel Xaven
Caldari
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 14:22:00 - [ 10]
Edited by: Colonel Xaven on 07/11/2008 16:32:46 Originally by: Dark Angelete
Edited by: Dark Angelete on 07/11/2008 14:20:07
Originally by: Colonel Xaven
asking a question
no muppet read.it had nothing to do with more stable servers.get it?i know its hard for rzr d team to unerstand the op.but try.
You are too clever for me, master. |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2008.11.07 15:12:00 - [ 11]
Muppet? Were you part of The Muppet Show? Because I used to love that. |
Haradgrim
Caldari
Systematic Mercantilism
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 16:04:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Muppet? Were you part of The Muppet Show? Because I used to love that.
It aint easy being being green |
Dark Angelete
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 16:26:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Muppet? Were you part of The Muppet Show? Because I used to love that.
are all the real sa goons gone?or did every decent goon poster leave for other corps/alliances?the quality of goon posts gets worse with every post.it even effects some of those that have left already.thats how bad they are getting. |
Colonel Xaven
Caldari
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 16:31:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Dark Angelete
are all the real sa goons gone?or did every decent goon poster leave for other corps/alliances?the quality of goon posts gets worse with every post.it even effects some of those that have left already.thats how bad they are getting.
That's why you're so good at posting.  |
Carrot Toss
Amarr
Caritas.
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 16:43:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Dark Angelete
the last two have been meta bumped out of pos.legit kills in this day in eve?sure.though most were un prepared pilots being meta gamed out of pos using pw and bumping.not like it was omg uber combat that got them caught.
Concern 1: You ever tried bumping a titan out of a Large POS quick enough that he/she doesn't notice in time? Concern 2: Ever killed a Titan with just RR BS? Concern 3: Ever killed a Titan? Concern 4: What do people tell new players about EVE? You are never safe. Translates to me, that if you are logged in and not docked, you SHOULD be paying attention. Especially when flying tens of billions of ISK. Yes, I fed the troll. |
Dark Angelete
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 17:00:00 - [ 16]
quote=Colonel Xaven] That's why you're so good at posting.
you sir make my look like edgar allan.surprised someone in rzr hasnt told you to stfu. to the guy just above me.you still didnt add anything to the thread.they were legit kills i think i have said that 2 times now.get it.i doubt it.it still had NOTHING to do with the new stackless server upgrade.see that.reread what i wrote 20 times.it might help.having this new server upgrade did crap all to aid in those two titan kills.the op talked about titans dieing alot due to the upgrade.when in fact it had very little to do with it.get it yet smart one? |
Princess Jodi
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 17:20:00 - [ 17]
The server improvements might have contributed, but only because it is now possible to fight. The first time Shrike got into trouble during the Delve invasion, I was there. Had a DD-proof bs when he warped to the gate and hit us. We tried to jump out, to no real avail. I then jumped back in, locked Shrike and started shooting.
5 salvos later I had to issue warp out command because the 1-hour timer was getting close. Total time to jump out, jump in, lock, shoot and warp was over an hour of game time. Meanwhile, Shrike was motoring away from the gate with 13 Carriers repping him.
That kind of performance made him virtually unkillable. Now, we might actually get to shoot Titans. That's what is making the difference. |
Dark Angelete
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2008.11.07 17:44:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
The server improvements might have contributed, but only because it is now possible to fight. The first time Shrike got into trouble during the Delve invasion, I was there. Had a DD-proof bs when he warped to the gate and hit us. We tried to jump out, to no real avail. I then jumped back in, locked Shrike and started shooting.
5 salvos later I had to issue warp out command because the 1-hour timer was getting close. Total time to jump out, jump in, lock, shoot and warp was over an hour of game time. Meanwhile, Shrike was motoring away from the gate with 13 Carriers repping him.
That kind of performance made him virtually unkillable. Now, we might actually get to shoot Titans. That's what is making the difference.
yes and that had to do tons with the amount of titans killed in that week span the op was talking about.right.no.2/3 of those titans were bumped out of sheilds and killed when server stability had little to do with it.just like the m-o situation that kept crashing time and time again.very little has changed in that regard. |
Princess Jodi
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 17:47:00 - [ 19]
True enough, 2 of the 3 were lost due to pos bumping. A lame tactic but one CCP has declared legal so the argument ends there. My point is that in the past jumping in so many ships to kill Titans caused such extreme lag or node crashes that they gained a level of invulnerability. That seems to have been lessened by the new hardware.
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Dangerously Cheesey
Gallente
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2008.11.07 18:22:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Dark Angelete
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Muppet? Were you part of The Muppet Show? Because I used to love that.
are all the real sa goons gone?or did every decent goon poster leave for other corps/alliances?the quality of goon posts gets worse with every post.it even effects some of those that have left already.thats how bad they are getting.
mlyp |
Colonel Xaven
Caldari
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 18:39:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Dark Angelete
you sir make my look like edgar allan.surprised someone in rzr hasnt told you to stfu.
Edgar Allan would beat you for that sentence. Someone in rzr would tell me to stfu if I was wrong. But I'm not a bitter alt. /offtopic |
Hexman
Minmatar
The Ankou
Raiden. |
Posted - 2008.11.07 19:43:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: King Leopold
a new ccp money making scheme? perhaps?
ok, back to my tobacco plantation making sure those Matari slaves don't smoke up the profits..
Well..yah? Isn't that what companies who invest in improving their product sorta expect? No tinfoil hat this time... Fail troll is fail |
Valius Altmer
Caldari
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.07 22:39:00 - [ 23]
Edited by: Valius Altmer on 07/11/2008 22:43:34 Originally by: Carrot Toss
Concern 1:
You ever tried bumping a titan out of a Large POS quick enough that he/she doesn't notice in time?
A standard fleet fit BS, traveling at or above 1kms hitting a titan will move the titan over 30km. A Nano Bs, traveling at over 2ks will move the titan over 100km. Ask any titan pilot. edit: should mention that the only recourse a titan pilot has is to cyno out of system or cloak and pray or just pray. The bump mechanics at work with a titan are just wacky. |
Roemy Schneider
Minmatar
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2008.11.07 23:30:00 - [ 24]
once the transfers between nodes goes smoothly, there'll be a lot more people joining in on titan kills. atm, most people get stuck jumping into such a system. even the regular gang of 50 ends up in traffic control at every organized jump. |
Muzzaroo
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2008.11.08 04:02:00 - [ 25]
Edited by: Muzzaroo on 08/11/2008 04:03:07 Originally by: Valius Altmer
Edited by: Valius Altmer on 07/11/2008 22:43:34
Originally by: Carrot Toss
Concern 1:
You ever tried bumping a titan out of a Large POS quick enough that he/she doesn't notice in time?
A standard fleet fit BS, traveling at or above 1kms hitting a titan will move the titan over 30km. A Nano Bs, traveling at over 2ks will move the titan over 100km. Ask any titan pilot.
edit: should mention that the only recourse a titan pilot has is to cyno out of system or cloak and pray or just pray. The bump mechanics at work with a titan are just wacky.
TBFH Bumping mechanics are pretty ridiculous for all classes of ships. A 6K Vagabond knocking Carriers off of undock points. Interceptors bumping any class ship at Very High speed without tacking some Form of Kinetic collision damage is pathetic. We all do it. its one of the comical features in the game that has no concequence to the damage hitpoints accrued to a ship. If i was to fly my A-10 and start bumping C-17's on final approach so I don't miss my T-Off times to land first... Well were both going to be a smoking hole in the ground. But this isnt Science. It's convieniant internet Spaceships Pixels. On one side, theirs a Group of people arguing for real world facts to support their arguements, and at the same time assuming a position of tactical usage by ignoring the same Real world physics they want in game. Shouldnt beable to have it both ways. |
Gunship
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2008.11.08 13:05:00 - [ 26]
A quick fix would be not to be able to bump a titan or any other capital ships. It's not like I don't think you can use any tactic that the game offers you, its just that it seams silly. |
Kian Jorry
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2008.11.09 11:44:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: Muzzaroo
TBFH Bumping mechanics are pretty ridiculous for all classes of ships.
Remind me who took 1st place in the Multiple Titan POS Bowling Championship. |
Marie Juana
Caldari
moon7empler
Ev0ke |
Posted - 2008.11.09 12:03:00 - [ 28]
easy solution. a bump gets the ship direct into structure dmg. taranis against titan with 3000m/s = *plopp* the ranis, shield and armor stay @ 100%  MJ |
Kian Jorry
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2008.11.09 12:29:00 - [ 29]
Originally by: Marie Juana
easy solution.
a bump gets the ship direct into structure dmg.
taranis against titan with 3000m/s = *plopp* the ranis, shield and armor stay @ 100%
MJ
Don't forget to adjust alignment times proportionately. |
Ast3r0iD
Gallente
Aliastra
|
Posted - 2008.11.09 15:05:00 - [ 30]
could you not just web the titan with a friendly, i was under the impression this prevented bumping |
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