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Piper Halliwell
Minmatar
Phantom Squad
En Garde
Posted - 2008.10.27 06:26:00 - [301]
 

There may have been lag in E-O, but there was none in Jita...on a Suday. Laughing Next time fight in Jita. I has the most node power YARRRR!!

MentaFox
Gallente
Warped Mining
Strip Mining Club
Posted - 2008.10.27 06:36:00 - [302]
 

Originally by: Piper Halliwell
There may have been lag in E-O, but there was none in Jita...on a Suday. Laughing Next time fight in Jita. I has the most node power YARRRR!!


QFT

D'ceet
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.27 06:50:00 - [303]
 

Originally by: Swirler
May the force be with you...well...maybe tomorrow.Twisted Evil


damn swirler and his somewhat silly star wars logic...damn him!

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.27 06:58:00 - [304]
 

That warp disruptor Naglfar sure did come handy.

Blastil
Gallente
Point of No Return
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:00:00 - [305]
 

Now we just have to march onwards towards BoB space.
TONIGHT, WE DINE IN QUERIOUS!

MUGAI CEO
Caldari
Itto-Ryu
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:19:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: Imperian
And here comes the REAL reason NC won the fight :

Recorded on NC TS Channelcommand
KOTH Fluff: All FC's should fly drakes.
Other channel commanders: LOL FAIL fly x,y,z.
Countrywv: Atleast we got him to fly a dread now soon we will get him in carrier.
Danny Centurai: Does a phoenix honestly count as a dread?
Countrywv: No its just an oversized drake!

Meanwhile on GBC TS:

Molle: All pilots set your overview to battlecruisers only and kill KOTH Fluff!!!
GBC Pilots: But we don't see him on overview ow evil overlord!
Molle: No waaaaiii! He always flies teh drake!

BoB fleet was totally confused while searching for Fluffs Drake and therefore lost the fight



Meanwhile in 15W Imperian Supporting his allies, one jump away from the fight!

Imperian making the difference in 15W

aikira
Caldari
Silver Snake Enterprise
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:21:00 - [307]
 

yeah the lag was horrible and wierd i could target and use my drone almost with no lag buth in almost 4 houres and 8 siege cycles i shot a total of 65 citadel torps thats it hehe

Sani Ka
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:22:00 - [308]
 

L O L

Kusotarre
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:32:00 - [309]
 

Originally by: MUGAI CEO
Meanwhile in 15W Imperian Supporting his allies, one jump away from the fight!

Imperian making the difference in 15W

I hardly think Imperian can help it if 15 GBC are lounging around in stealthbombers (lol) while the rest of their coalition is losing a fight so badly it needs to call for everyone to log off to limit losses.

Roemy Schneider
Minmatar
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:32:00 - [310]
 

"lag" would imply something actually happening on my screen with some latency...
i just wish that would have been the case. 2h of nothing, like all the epic events i supposedly took part in during the past 2 years of 0.0.

Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 07:44:00 - [311]
 

Originally by: Kushan
While I'm generally of the opinion that logofski is a pretty lame thing to do, I can't say I BoB for logging when they did. You have your own capitals popping left and right, yet due to weird lag you can't take down a single primary after 45min of "shooting." You can stay on the field to preserve your e-honour (and lose your entire capfleet), or you can logoff and fight another day. It's not as if BoB all log'd the minute they saw they were outnumbered; they stuck around for quite a while (and were unable to accomplish anything due to the weird lag)

My theory is that StacklessIO does nothing but reduce ROF/drone launch rate, etc. CCP figured that if a gun only fired once every 10 minutes, it would reduce the lag. And hey, it worked!


Or, the primary target they were trying to kill was being remote repped by about 20-30 carriers. One carrier in our formation was primary for over 30 min and according to his probably incomplete logs, he tanked 1.2m in damage with remote support. Which, is why bob probably saw the HP of our ships going up after shooting them. But then again, it could just be lag, because hey, we're not doing anything of note during the entire 5 hours we were in that fight.

Lag was bad but the same effects was being felt by everyone. At one point 3 out of my 4 weapons were lag jammed. Lag was not the deciding factor in this battle.

McFly
Caldari
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:02:00 - [312]
 

Is this 2 or 3? is anyone counting the one CCP "moved" when the node crashed?

benwallace
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:04:00 - [313]
 

Nicely done, you won a battle, now win the war.....if you can

gl

A Sinner
Gallente
Muppet Factory
QQ Connoisseur's
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:06:00 - [314]
 


Saka Mizuno
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:14:00 - [315]
 

To who ever is in charge of BoB's KB, you double posted Shrike's loss.

Deva Blackfire
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:20:00 - [316]
 

Originally by: Kai Lae

Or, the primary target they were trying to kill was being remote repped by about 20-30 carriers. One carrier in our formation was primary for over 30 min and according to his probably incomplete logs, he tanked 1.2m in damage with remote support. Which, is why bob probably saw the HP of our ships going up after shooting them. But then again, it could just be lag, because hey, we're not doing anything of note during the entire 5 hours we were in that fight.



Doesnt 1,2m hitpoints take like 1-2 minutes to remove by dread gang? 50 rr battleships can kill (unhardened) around 2mil HP/minute, so around 0,5m/minute hardened (to 75%). 50rr battleships deal less damage than 10 sieged dreads.

Also we had similiar thing that was reported earlier in ZLZ - guns activated once per 2 miuntes or so enabling caracals to passive shieldtank single ships...

Sasha Lyre
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:23:00 - [317]
 

So gbc have a terrible k/d ratio in conventional ships during MAX

They now have an unimpressive k/d ration in cap ships during MAX

Does this mean the only positive k/d ration they have is against POS ?

Must be fun being a pilot for the GBC...Rolling EyesRolling Eyes


Deira Lenia
Gallente
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:25:00 - [318]
 

Donating a bill to Shrikes new Avatar!

(Want to buy one? Still got one fitted n everything the way you like it, too bad our pilot got stuck in uni :( )

Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:29:00 - [319]
 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire

Doesnt 1,2m hitpoints take like 1-2 minutes to remove by dread gang? 50 rr battleships can kill (unhardened) around 2mil HP/minute, so around 0,5m/minute hardened (to 75%). 50rr battleships deal less damage than 10 sieged dreads.

Also we had similiar thing that was reported earlier in ZLZ - guns activated once per 2 miuntes or so enabling caracals to passive shieldtank single ships...


ROF was very low due to lag. But it was very low for everyone...I went 20 minutes at one point without firing. At all.

So yes it wasn't the way it was supposed to be, but it isn't like there was different circumstances for us than there were for them. Actually they would have had what you would consider the traditional advantage, since we jumped into them. They had preloaded grids, drones etc. I'm hoping personally that these server improvements CCP speaks about isn't vaporware. I think every PvP pilot has experienced the situation of being blackscreened on jump in, only to relog to find that he has the insurance value of his ship in his wallet and is now in the nearest clone bay. No battle should ever be fought that way. Fortunately that was not common for us this time, and the lag was pretty much even handed to all sides, but none of us should have to be put into this kind of situation. The best solution is one where stuff works the way it is supposed to; maybe I'll actually see that one day. Probably unlikely though.

Deva Blackfire
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:34:00 - [320]
 

It just seems to be some kind of weird bug. Dunno if its connected with changing node to reinforced while people are on it or something coz it happened only 2 times as far as i know (ZLZ and now E-O). But it would be good if CCP could nail it.

Zeveron
Caldari
Exiled Gathering
HELL4S
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:57:00 - [321]
 

It was actualy a nice engagement.
I fired 24 voleys in 4h :-)

And I was told to spare fuels and not DD :-(

You won this one NC, but today is another day.

Markousa
Minmatar
Jita Hauling And Logistics
Posted - 2008.10.27 08:57:00 - [322]
 

Go job NC nice to see you still have some fight :)

Tho really making a huge fuss over something small ???

isnt this like saying goonswarm just lost a frig i wouldnt be surprised if you see Shrike in another titan by the days end ....


Christopher Multsanti
Amarr
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:28:00 - [323]
 

But this thread can't be true, BOB's super cap kill ratio is best in game right TWD?


And did Chronx give the command to log off the super caps?

Kanicume Enyorwif
Gallente
Cherrypoppinpodders
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:33:00 - [324]
 

When the GBC roll over the Northern Monkeys this will surely be a thread to be revisited so all you NC can look back on "the good old days." Do not count your chickens or let this one moment define you. Carry on gents.. carry on.

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:34:00 - [325]
 

Just a Titan, who cares :P

Btw nice, kill moar on both sides now

Thargat
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:46:00 - [326]
 

Lol at all the spinning and whining and trolls.
If we ignore the lag and pretend there wasn't any it seemed to be a great fight (I never loaded).
Nice to see this actually turning into a real war with ship to ship action (there was no POS warfare that triggered this event).
Summary: GF

/Thargat

Katherine Marx
Caldari
Muff Diving
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:56:00 - [327]
 

Originally by: Kanicume Enyorwif
When the GBC roll over the Northern Monkeys this will surely be a thread to be revisited so all you NC can look back on "the good old days." Do not count your chickens or let this one moment define you. Carry on gents.. carry on.


yes because the GBC is so absolutely efficient at rolling over people. they have made exceedingly massive progress in tribute fo show dawg. vOv

Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:57:00 - [328]
 

Severely dislike the NC, but dislike BoB even more.

GOGO NC ! (never thought I'd say that Razz)

Falst
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.27 09:58:00 - [329]
 

Originally by: McKinlay
props to some of TRI for accidently camping one of the entrances from Vale to Tribute for their BoB brosefs?


Do you mean the small gang of exceed nano***s in m-o? The Gob took us on a small roam which ended up in m-o. We shot at everyone and everything that came through the gate:

Summary

The lag leaking over from E-0 made for some interesting effects Surprised We had people we had podded asking in local if they were dead yet Laughing


Alkad Mzu
Minmatar
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.10.27 10:11:00 - [330]
 

Epic battle, mad props to both sides. The most impressive about it was really the node refusing to die though, shows CCP are on the right track imo. Hopefully we'll even be able to fight real-time in the near future Laughing

MAX fun =)


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