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AmarrSecSlave
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2008.10.24 11:14:00 - [1]
 

Which alliance will be the first to lose 2+ titans in one battle and which alliance will be the victor of this fight?

Deira Lenia
Gallente
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.24 11:18:00 - [2]
 

Either TCF or another random NC bandwagon alliance.

The victor?

CCP's LAG alliance.

RedSplat
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.10.24 11:19:00 - [3]
 

BoB, when they acquire Jovian tech.

Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.10.24 12:10:00 - [4]
 

Who will lose them ?
-Us, 'cause Dian reactivated

Who will be the winner ?
-Us, 'cause he'll emoragequit right after.

Heptameron
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 12:35:00 - [5]
 

Trolling removed. Navigator

Deira Lenia
Gallente
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.24 12:57:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Heptameron
Trolling removed. Navigator


I'm seeing RZR, MM, PURE, HYDRA, TCF, KIA, DAISHO, CORE and other various alliances being shot to hell by TRI, BOB, BIONIC DAWN, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Your own killboard says so, BOB's killboard says so, Morsus Mihi's killboard says so, TCF killboard says so, TRI's killboard says so. Hell, even NC pets like Fallout Project killboard says so.

And yes. I think of being stuck on the loginscreen for 2 hours untill the node crashes again of a "campain with epic proportions"

I cant say that i find the MAX campain effective, but it sure made the northern napmonkeys aggrevated.

Been there, Done that, Left before RZR started trolling.

Kusotarre
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:06:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Deira Lenia

I'm seeing RZR, MM, PURE, HYDRA, TCF, KIA, DAISHO, CORE and other various alliances being shot to hell by TRI, BOB, BIONIC DAWN, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Your own killboard says so, BOB's killboard says so, Morsus Mihi's killboard says so, TCF killboard says so, TRI's killboard says so. Hell, even NC pets like Fallout Project killboard says so.

And yes. I think of being stuck on the loginscreen for 2 hours untill the node crashes again of a "campain with epic proportions"

I cant say that i find the MAX campain effective, but it sure made the northern napmonkeys aggrevated.

Been there, Done that, Left before RZR started trolling.


This is pretty funny.

Unlike the GBC, we've been pretty open about the stats for this war. We've made a killboard that aggregates the info from most of the NC (not sure who, if any, are missing, but they don't include the largest players for sure). GBC hasn't done this.

Killboard link removed. Navigator

So really, I'm not sure which KB you're looking at, but it's definitely not any that is giving you a comprehensive view of the MAX campaign.

Kusotarre
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:08:00 - [8]
 

Also why does this thread have like 900 views?

Anahid Brutus
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:17:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Kusotarre
Originally by: Deira Lenia

I'm seeing RZR, MM, PURE, HYDRA, TCF, KIA, DAISHO, CORE and other various alliances being shot to hell by TRI, BOB, BIONIC DAWN, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Your own killboard says so, BOB's killboard says so, Morsus Mihi's killboard says so, TCF killboard says so, TRI's killboard says so. Hell, even NC pets like Fallout Project killboard says so.

And yes. I think of being stuck on the loginscreen for 2 hours untill the node crashes again of a "campain with epic proportions"

I cant say that i find the MAX campain effective, but it sure made the northern napmonkeys aggrevated.

Been there, Done that, Left before RZR started trolling.


This is pretty funny.

Unlike the GBC, we've been pretty open about the stats for this war. We've made a killboard that aggregates the info from most of the NC (not sure who, if any, are missing, but they don't include the largest players for sure). GBC hasn't done this.

Killboard link removed. Navigator

So really, I'm not sure which KB you're looking at, but it's definitely not any that is giving you a comprehensive view of the MAX campaign.
well that's confirmed then, most of bob's fleets really are pets at this point.

Deira Lenia
Gallente
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:18:00 - [10]
 

I was looking at the individual alliance killboards. The "fleet stats" make interesting views of battles which are not always 100% correct, but easyer then going kill by kill to check who shot at it.

The one you just linked is new to me, i must say its a nice initiative, would be cool if the GBC threw one up aswell.

Thanks for that!

Fire Hawk
Gallente
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Fire Hawk on 24/10/2008 13:25:06
Originally by: Kusotarre
Originally by: Deira Lenia

I'm seeing RZR, MM, PURE, HYDRA, TCF, KIA, DAISHO, CORE and other various alliances being shot to hell by TRI, BOB, BIONIC DAWN, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Your own killboard says so, BOB's killboard says so, Morsus Mihi's killboard says so, TCF killboard says so, TRI's killboard says so. Hell, even NC pets like Fallout Project killboard says so.

And yes. I think of being stuck on the loginscreen for 2 hours untill the node crashes again of a "campain with epic proportions"

I cant say that i find the MAX campain effective, but it sure made the northern napmonkeys aggrevated.

Been there, Done that, Left before RZR started trolling.


This is pretty funny.

Unlike the GBC, we've been pretty open about the stats for this war. We've made a killboard that aggregates the info from most of the NC (not sure who, if any, are missing, but they don't include the largest players for sure). GBC hasn't done this.

Killboard link removed. Navigator

So really, I'm not sure which KB you're looking at, but it's definitely not any that is giving you a comprehensive view of the MAX campaign.


I like the idea of your killboard and was looking forward to have a look at the stats, it is however unfortunate that you fail to post all your losses again.

Have a look at your last fleet battle report in E-O and you will see that you are missing a minimum of 51 losses, you have posted 33 losses when the bob Killboard shows 84 kill.

It is truly Sad to see a god idea like that being used once again to manipulate stats.

Deira Lenia
Gallente
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:21:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Deira Lenia on 24/10/2008 13:22:21
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Kusotarre
Originally by: Deira Lenia

I'm seeing RZR, MM, PURE, HYDRA, TCF, KIA, DAISHO, CORE and other various alliances being shot to hell by TRI, BOB, BIONIC DAWN, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Your own killboard says so, BOB's killboard says so, Morsus Mihi's killboard says so, TCF killboard says so, TRI's killboard says so. Hell, even NC pets like Fallout Project killboard says so.

And yes. I think of being stuck on the loginscreen for 2 hours untill the node crashes again of a "campain with epic proportions"

I cant say that i find the MAX campain effective, but it sure made the northern napmonkeys aggrevated.

Been there, Done that, Left before RZR started trolling.


This is pretty funny.

Unlike the GBC, we've been pretty open about the stats for this war. We've made a killboard that aggregates the info from most of the NC (not sure who, if any, are missing, but they don't include the largest players for sure). GBC hasn't done this.

Killboard link removed. Navigator

So really, I'm not sure which KB you're looking at, but it's definitely not any that is giving you a comprehensive view of the MAX campaign.


I like the idea of your killboard and was looking forward to have a look at the stats, it is however unfortunate that you fail to post all your losses again.

Have a look at your last fleet battle report in E-O and you will see that you are missing a minimum of 61 losses, you have posted 33 losses when the bob Killboard shows 84 kill.

It is truly Sad to see a god idea like that being used once again to manipulate stats.



Stop beating me to sling more numptyness at the NC numptys!

Also, ur sig still says DICE french wing!

FakeEdit: Must be the alliances without the big numbers that aint synced into the KB yet.

Oh, and to the Goonie, You mean GOONS fielded the majority of people to siege NOL with? Dont make me laugh, it hurts.

Fire Hawk
Gallente
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:35:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Fire Hawk on 24/10/2008 13:35:22
If those alliance represent at least 60% of their losses, why shouldnt they be on the NC killboard? Futhermore i had a look at another fleet battle which took place in 15w on the 22 of this month.

The NC board shows no losses taken and an efficiency of 100%, while the bob killboard shows that the NC lost a very minimun of 19 ships. The point i am trying to make is, the NC should stop claimning they are saints


Deira Lenia
Gallente
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:46:00 - [14]
 

Mwah, their not saying their saints. Look at Fred0, he wanted to know all possible exploits, haxes and lagkickers he could find!

Loss wise you could say the same about BOB, most of the the time GBC losses dont end up on the BOB killboard (which is obvious BOB aint the GBC, just like RZR aint the NC). Although i found that GBC losses are more accurate, even if you have to stroll past 10+ KB's to find them all.

Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:52:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Rod Blaine
Who will lose them ?
-Us, 'cause Dian reactivated

Who will be the winner ?
-Us, 'cause he'll emoragequit right after.


Love you too, Rodney!

Xiong Yoshi
Gallente
Coke vs Pepsi
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:53:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Fire Hawk
Edited by: Fire Hawk on 24/10/2008 13:35:22
If those alliance represent at least 60% of their losses, why shouldnt they be on the NC killboard? Futhermore i had a look at another fleet battle which took place in 15w on the 22 of this month.

The NC board shows no losses taken and an efficiency of 100%, while the bob killboard shows that the NC lost a very minimun of 19 ships. The point i am trying to make is, the NC should stop claimning they are saints




If you see a KM that you feel should be posted to improve accuracy - atleast give more information than "15w on the 22nd" cause there were quite a few ships killed/lost on that day in that system. Atleast say a pilot's name and shiptype.. maybe approximate time would help. Or just link to the kill even though Mods will probably scrub the link.

Fire Hawk
Gallente
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 13:53:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Deira Lenia
Mwah, their not saying their saints. Look at Fred0, he wanted to know all possible exploits, haxes and lagkickers he could find!

Loss wise you could say the same about BOB, most of the the time GBC losses dont end up on the BOB killboard (which is obvious BOB aint the GBC, just like RZR aint the NC). Although i found that GBC losses are more accurate, even if you have to stroll past 10+ KB's to find them all.


We never claimed to be, as fart as posting losses i can not talk about the other menbers of the GBC, but as far as the EXE is concerned I will be happily to pay the NC 10 Million isk per lost mail not posted after 48 hours after the occured lost.
I of course would welcome the same initiative from the NC.


An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.24 14:09:00 - [18]
 

Void. sounds like such a powerful and mighty alliance. It is a wonder why you have no idea what's going on.

Sasha Lyre
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.10.24 14:09:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Deira Lenia
Mwah, their not saying their saints. Look at Fred0, he wanted to know all possible exploits, haxes and lagkickers he could find!

Loss wise you could say the same about BOB, most of the the time GBC losses dont end up on the BOB killboard (which is obvious BOB aint the GBC, just like RZR aint the NC). Although i found that GBC losses are more accurate, even if you have to stroll past 10+ KB's to find them all.


We never claimed to be, as fart as posting losses i can not talk about the other menbers of the GBC, but as far as the EXE is concerned I will be happily to pay the NC 10 Million isk per lost mail not posted after 48 hours after the occured lost.
I of course would welcome the same initiative from the NC.




When I grow up I wanna be good enough to join your clan..


Darklin Eldaris
Minmatar
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.10.24 14:12:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Darklin Eldaris on 24/10/2008 14:16:25
Originally by: Kusotarre

We've made a killboard that aggregates the info from most of the NC (not sure who, if any, are missing, but they don't include the largest players for sure). GBC hasn't done this.


Error in logic detected.

If you went to the trouble to creating the killboard which aggregates all information across the entire conflict for your side then there is no need for BOB to make one too. The information is already there on your killboard, why make two of them?

That said lets not make this post all about killboards, considering the OP posed a question ( which is at least sort of interesting to ponder ).

If I went with statistical analysis I'd have to say the first to lose 2 in 1 battle would be BOB, because they have so damn many of them.

To be honest, killboards don't matter. At all. Not even a little bit. What matters is who has the sov, who has the resources, who keeps showing up day after day after day. That wins wars, not k:d ratios. It's been said time and again, and it will be said till this game goes belly up ( truth withstands the test of time ).

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 14:34:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Darklin Eldaris
Originally by: Kusotarre

We've made a killboard that aggregates the info from most of the NC (not sure who, if any, are missing, but they don't include the largest players for sure). GBC hasn't done this.


Error in logic detected.

If you went to the trouble to creating the killboard which aggregates all information across the entire conflict for your side then there is no need for BOB to make one too. The information is already there on your killboard, why make two of them?


The error is really yours. You shouldn't confuse "most" with "all" and then apply your logic to "all" since Kuso didn't say that. Logic is all good but worthless if it stands on distorted thruths.

Besides, Kuso's point was probably that we're making an effort at showing a correct KB picture of our fights while the GBC doesn't. You can draw whatever conclusions you want from that

Sinder Ohm
Caldari
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2008.10.24 15:04:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Rod Blaine
Who will lose them ?
-Us, 'cause Dian reactivated

Who will be the winner ?
-Us, 'cause he'll emoragequit right after.

by far the coolest answer in this thread all the others suck.

titanstory
Amarr
Cursed Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2008.10.24 15:27:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Deira Lenia
Either TCF or another random NC bandwagon alliance.

The victor?

CCP's LAG alliance.


idiot

Irongut
Gallente
Sex Money Guns
Posted - 2008.10.24 16:03:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Fred0

Besides, Kuso's point was probably that we're making an effort at showing a correct KB picture of our fights while the GBC doesn't. You can draw whatever conclusions you want from that


So you've made an effort to claim that an inaccurate killboard shows a more correct picture of the situation. While the GBC have made no such spurious claims. I draw the conclusion that you must be losing because you feel more need to employ false propaganda.

CCP Navigator


Minmatar
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.24 16:10:00 - [25]
 

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