Posted - 2008.10.15 19:28:00 - [2]

 

I endorse this product and/or service

I for one welcome our new Omber protective Zombie overlords.

Posted - 2008.10.16 16:57:00 - [4]

 

Zombie for president

Posted - 2008.10.18 17:47:00 - [6]

 

Originally by: Jinx Barker

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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 18/10/2008 15:01:18
Ok, Omber, other than the fact I tried to pay to have you delivered to my hangar... (/me hangs his head in shame)...

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should have paid me a decent amount and I would have delivered myself

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1) I feel CSM has been very soft with CCP, in other words they appeared in most cases, to just buckle under CCP pressure, and not investigating more when CCP refused to give answers, or was evasive. What are you going to do about it?

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I agree to an extent with that sentiment. You have to realise though that some answers as presented to the eve public are heavily sanitised due to NDA requirements. Some issues fell into exploit areas (which can't be discussed) others fell into areas that were already addressed and were waiting on being announced by CCP. Basically, a lot of the issues which got a simple public response were for those type of reasons. As for haranguing CCP into giving more complete answers - imho it's a major part of the job for the CSM, and when the log for the last meeting makes it's way to the forums you'll see pretty much everyone in the meeting badgering the devs about things at different points in the meeting. If you need an example, both LaVista and I instantly asked questions about why the QEN hadn't been published when EyejoG logged in, and hey presto, 3 days later we have a published QEN.

I guess it's all about getting an answer for the public that covers enough detail to satisfy the request, as well as allowing CCP to have some 'wow' factor when they announce things.

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2) Whom do you work for? CCP or Players of EVE, and what happens when CCP tells you to bugger off? Do you say: "Thank You Sir, may I have some more," or do you fight them and demand more answers, and clarification? I think recent CSM has walked away too many times when they could have stayed and fought the CCP. If it is an issue that you feel CCP is trying to just not deal with, what do you do?

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I work for both. I'm there to relay and argue issues from the players to CCP and to pass the information from CCP to the players. As I said in the above 'wall of text'™ - sometimes the answers you get aren't able to published, so what may look like the CSM walking away isn't always the case. I'm all for arguing with the devs tho if the response they give is unsatisfactory.

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3) What about other player communication? I think last CSM failed miserably at being open to the player community.

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Completely agree but with the caveat that it wasn't entirely the CSM's fault. I think it's a joint failure on behalf of the CSM and CCP (next meeting should be fun after they read this ) On the CCP side: until recently the CSM hasn't had a ccp secured forum to discuss topics (which as an alt I still don't have access to), the internal communications have all been hosted by Serenity (cheers mate), the minutes section of the Eve website hasn't been updated, and the Assembly Hall voting system is shockingly bad (no negative votes is a major oversight).

From the CSM side: I think a there has been a real lack of explaining the CSM decisions - yes minutes of meetings were posted, but none of the CSM members have cared to clarify their positions on the issues they voted on (some of which were highly contentious), and other than for pet projects, none seem to want to go out and see what the average player thinks about what is and isn't being raised and voted on. Granted, that is what the Assembly Hall was supposed to be, but there are plenty of other forums on this site let alone outside of here (Scrapheap comes to mind, I probably should register an account there).

TL;DR - More communication is definitely needed, and I think pretty much everyone involved with CSM agrees.

Posted - 2008.10.18 19:39:00 - [8]

 

So far, you have Oz, although, I think I might have to attribute your vote for musical instruments to some really strong aussie cannabis, at least for my own self delusion.... (sorry no "shakes head" emote on forums).

Anyway, you should make a platform, and post it, as I am sure others will do as well.
I am sure it will get hairy on these forums pretty soon.

Posted - 2008.10.28 01:40:00 - [10]

 

Would you support the introduction of new industry icons for corp logos? I mean don't we have enough skull and crossbones? How about some industry icons, asteriods/mining. Doesn't seem that hard of a thing to do. That would be enough to get my vote.

Posted - 2008.10.29 11:32:00 - [12]

 

I'm planning to vote elsewhere this time - last time I think I got drunk first, and then flipped a coin for you or Serenity Steele (?) and now forget who won the toss - but I'd like to see you get your chance to act in a more official capacity for the CSM.

I bid you good luck (Especially to a fellow Aussie!)

Posted - 2008.10.30 18:47:00 - [14]

 

umm, thanks I guess Joss..

and hi odet

Posted - 2008.11.10 04:58:00 - [16]

 

woot, mercs got my back

/me plans assassinations

Posted - 2008.11.10 20:22:00 - [18]

 

You have my vote OZ

Posted - 2008.11.12 00:10:00 - [20]

 

Originally by: Bane Glorious

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OZ seems to be a good guy. Don't have much experience with him but he seemed to be a straight shooter. Might have connections to the former MC crew, though.

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thanks bane - and yes, I have connections to some of the former MC crew (and a whole lot of other people, comes with playing for so long :) )

Posted - 2008.11.12 16:33:00 - [22]

 

Originally by: Omber Zombie

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I have connections

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Yes, yes you do.

Posted - 2008.11.25 01:36:00 - [24]

 

I would just like to take this opportunity to thank everyone that voted for me - I'll try my best to do what I can for you

Posted - 2008.11.25 06:57:00 - [26]

 

The man from down under comes to the top!

Grats mate