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 Strill |
Posted - 2008.10.04 21:41:00 - [ 1]
I was thinking about how the gallente and caldari used to be the same nation but split, and then it hit me! They're based on U.S. political philosophy! The Caldari represent Conservativism because they take capitalism to its logical extreme. Likewise the Gallente represent Liberalism since they take that to its logical extreme.
So the game is really about
Black People + Liberals VS Conservatives + Catholics
It all makes so much sense! |
 Kephael Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2008.10.04 21:42:00 - [ 2]
By joe, I think he's got it! |
 Kaori Sendai Caldari |
Posted - 2008.10.04 21:55:00 - [ 3]
You wouldn't say that if you ever had the opportunity to jump into a Civire happy hour... ;) |
 Mia Fatalis Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.10.04 21:56:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Mia Fatalis on 04/10/2008 21:56:18 im dumb, and caldari. guess im a dumb conservative? |
 Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research. |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:02:00 - [ 5]
ITT: Stereotyping  |
 Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:25:00 - [ 6]
lol
Caldari and Gallente don't even come close to taking any political or social philosophy to any extreme. And what is the "logical extreme" of liberalism, anyway? |
 Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative. |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:34:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Dirk Magnum lol
Caldari and Gallente don't even come close to taking any political or social philosophy to any extreme. And what is the "logical extreme" of liberalism, anyway?
Banks' Culture. |
 Vabjekf |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:34:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Dirk Magnum lol
Caldari and Gallente don't even come close to taking any political or social philosophy to any extreme. And what is the "logical extreme" of liberalism, anyway?
socialism + tree huggery fanaticism combined. |
 Roxanna Kell Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:36:00 - [ 9]
Caldari are a military power, bit like the usa. Gallente are being more liberal, which is nothing like France. yet its French heritage. |
 Zombie27 |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:38:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Dirk Magnum lol
Caldari and Gallente don't even come close to taking any political or social philosophy to any extreme. And what is the "logical extreme" of liberalism, anyway?
logical extreme" of liberalism = hippies, gal=tree huggin hippies, Caldari=ppl who beat up tree hugin hippies |
 Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:39:00 - [ 11]
Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 04/10/2008 22:43:14Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 04/10/2008 22:43:01 Originally by: Zombie27 Caldari=ppl who beat up tree hugin hippies
FW stats beg to differ  edit: actually they don't  But they did, once. |
 B0rN2KiLL MicroFunks Green Alliance |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:46:00 - [ 12]
gallente ? with ships designed for close quarters combat and massive firepower?
if anything they're tree huggers with gigantic laser space cannons. |
 Vabjekf |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:50:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: B0rn2KiLL gallente ? with ships designed for close quarters combat and massive firepower?
if anything they're tree huggers with gigantic laser space cannons.
their ships all look like globs of space poop. except the mega. It really should have been another races ship to be honest. |
 John Hedon Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.04 22:50:00 - [ 14]
Gallente are most like the medieval French, using, heavily armed and armored, but slow knights. Caldari are more like the English during the 100 Years War, using, high range longbows. See the history books for the outcome. :P |
 Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:51:00 - [ 15]
Vabjekf has become my new favorite troll  |
 darkmancer |
Posted - 2008.10.04 22:54:00 - [ 16]
Edited by: darkmancer on 04/10/2008 22:55:04 The Caldari don't really match up to any modern political systems today (closest would probobly be russia).
I far as I can tell the nearest it comes to is the popular idea of Japanese Mega-corps taking over the would - an idea featured in several books & films in the 80's /90's.
There are some capitalist elements to it but the deep involvment of Tradition/Honour/ & cult like loyalty along with fanatical militarisum seperates it.
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 Kransthow Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2008.10.04 23:01:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: John Hedon Gallente are most like the medieval French, using, heavily armed and armored, but slow knights. Caldari are more like the English during the 100 Years War, using, high range longbows. See the history books for the outcome. :P
YOU DON'T FRIGHTEN US ENGLISH PIG DOGS! GO AND BOIL YOU BOTTOMS SONS OF A SILLY PERSON. I BLOW MY NOSE AT YOU SO CALLED JOHN HEDON YOU AND ALL YOUR SILLY CALDARI KNNNNNNNNIGGETS. PLLLLLLLLLL |
 ScaR97731 |
Posted - 2008.10.05 02:43:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Strill I was thinking about how the gallente and caldari used to be the same nation but split, and then it hit me! They're based on U.S. political philosophy! The Caldari represent Conservativism because they take capitalism to its logical extreme. Likewise the Gallente represent Liberalism since they take that to its logical extreme.
So the game is really about
Black People + Liberals VS Conservatives + Catholics
It all makes so much sense!
White People + Liberal White people VS Conservative White People + White Catholics |
 Paramite Pies Minmatar Native Freshfood |
Posted - 2008.10.05 02:47:00 - [ 19]
So you've figured it out, huh? Well, then. Now, I cannot live you live...
Without drinking this whole 20oz bottle of Quafe from me! Congrats! |
 Dirk Massive Armada.
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Posted - 2008.10.05 03:39:00 - [ 20]
Edited by: Dirk Massive on 05/10/2008 04:54:03 Thank god I'm Calderi then, and my alt is Amarr. I'd sure hate to be playing these accounts for years and find out now I'm a freakin Lib!!! Spit in my eye, kick me in the shins, explode my ship (If you can) but DON"T CALL ME A LIBERAL!
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 soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.10.05 03:43:00 - [ 21]
i picked the gallente because in my eyes they seemed like they represented the US the closest, of which i am a proud citizen
gallente = america caldari = england minmatar = Africa amarr = muslim extremeists
(thats the way i see them anywhoo) |
 Dirk Massive Armada.
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Posted - 2008.10.05 03:56:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Zombie27
Originally by: Dirk Magnum lol
Caldari and Gallente don't even come close to taking any political or social philosophy to any extreme. And what is the "logical extreme" of liberalism, anyway?
logical extreme" of liberalism = hippies, gal=tree huggin hippies, Caldari=ppl who beat up tree hugin hippies
WORD! |
 Vikarion Caldari State Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2008.10.05 04:10:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 i picked the gallente because in my eyes they seemed like they represented the US the closest, of which i am a proud citizen
gallente = america caldari = england minmatar = Africa amarr = muslim extremeists
(thats the way i see them anywhoo)
LOL...no, it's Caldari = America mixed with Japan Gallente = Europeans Amarr = Middle East Minmatar = Everywhere else  |
 Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.05 04:17:00 - [ 24]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/10/2008 04:17:37 Gallente: the worst of American "freedom and democracy... even if we have to kill you to give it to you" hypocrisy.
Caldari: hardcore libertarian ultra-capitalist nutcases. Thankfully they don't have a real-world country yet.
Amarr: delusional religious fanatics, all the morality and sanity of a middle-eastern theocracy, but with 200% more Jesus!
Minmatar: terrorists... err... freedom fighters. Every little country who's ended up the pawn of someone else. |
 Kahega Amielden Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2008.10.05 04:19:00 - [ 25]
Quote: Caldari: hardcore libertarian ultra-capitalist nutcases. Thankfully they don't have a real-world country yet.
I wouldn't say libertarian. Caldari is a bunch of megacorporations that are intertwined with the government and comes with a fierce sense of nationalism. I'd call Caldari Corporatist before anything else. |
 DaveW Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2008.10.05 04:25:00 - [ 26]
"He says he dosen't like you... I don't like you either.....! |
 Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2008.10.05 04:26:00 - [ 27]
Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 05/10/2008 04:26:19 Honestly I have to disagree with pretty much every comparison that's been made in this thread about these things. I doubt there are any direct parallels between the warped American definitions of liberal and conservative and the Eve factions. I think the following is about as well as the Eve factions can be summarized:
Gallente: Permissive society that embraces many cultures and ideas. Supports the people who can't support themselves.
Caldari: Rigid society based heavily on honor and discipline, similar perhaps to pre-WWII Japan.
Amarr: A society in self-denial of expression and passion. The emphasis on loyalty to God and monarch does not seem all that much different from medieval European views on hereditary inheritance of authority as ordained by the divine.
Minmatar: While there are comparisons to sub-national political systems that could be made, Minmatar society is more of an amalgamation of general ideas regarding things like freedom and the resistance to iron-fisted authority. There is no actual political system or nation that could serve as a realistic parallel to this, although that really wasn't the point anyway. CCP states in the Art of Eve book that the Minmatar are modeled more off of punk culture and other such subcultures. |
 Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2008.10.05 04:46:00 - [ 28]
Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 05/10/2008 04:47:48
gallente federation is a multi-ethnic representative democracy. caldari are a corporate-socialist state. I don't think many real-world comparisons could be made to caldari state because there has never been a corporate-socialist state in real life.
minmatar are a democratic republic, amarr empire is a theocratic monarchy and the jovian protectorate are a matriarchal (women hold leadership positions in society) technocracy. |
 Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2008.10.05 04:51:00 - [ 29]
Actually in one of the Chronicles or news items it said that the Caldari State doesn't really extend welfare to people, and that's why Caldari citizens were migrating to Gallente stations. So corporate-socialist doesn't really apply. |
 Verx Interis Amarr SkyNet.
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Posted - 2008.10.05 05:13:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Strill Black People + Liberals VS Conservatives + Catholics
ROFL. I don't know why but that's hilarious. |