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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
Holding Corp
Posted - 2008.09.03 22:52:00 - [181]
 

Let it go lyria.... just slip and slide away.....

You're on a calm beach... the sun is shining, the sand is soft. Bury your feet and relax on that towel, let all your cares just slide.... peaceful.... gone.

Isn't that better? Laughing

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.09.03 22:55:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: AstroPhobic
Let it go lyria.... just slip and slide away.....

You're on a calm beach... the sun is shining, the sand is soft. Bury your feet and relax on that towel, let all your cares just slide.... peaceful.... gone.

Isn't that better? Laughing


Wow, how did you know?

I'm actually at the beach on holiday. Got this crummy pc that can barely run a browser. So no eve, thats why Im here spreading my infinite wisdom on the forums. Still 12 days left before I return to civilization.

AstroPhobic
Minmatar
Holding Corp
Posted - 2008.09.03 23:09:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: Lyria Skydancer


Wow, how did you know?

I'm actually at the beach on holiday. Got this crummy pc that can barely run a browser. So no eve, thats why Im here spreading my infinite wisdom on the forums. Still 12 days left before I return to civilization.


12 days? Shocked

WTB your boss. Idea

Rajere
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2008.09.03 23:19:00 - [184]
 

Is there really a whine thread for Amarr, the best pvp race in game atm?

Retribution: who cares
vengeance: all AFs suck until nano-patch
Omen: who cares
Maller: seriously who cares
Augoror: who cares
Curse: They'll be alright as support and anti-support roles.
Pilgrim: Pilgrim is already great at what it does, there is no range issue, learn to fly them.
Sentinel: strongest frigate in the game, stop whining
Prophecy: Harbinger. seriously. Cyclone? Ferox?
Crystals: Only if all ammo was allowed to be switched for the entire rack, which the dev's have already said no it makes too many server calls and FC's would be ordering their fleets to switch ammo types constantly which would break the node. the fast crystal switching is already a benefit, all other guns/missiles must wait 10 seconds doing 0 DPS and they must switch ammo one turret at a time as well.

I'm pretty sure this is a fake whine thread to steer the devs away from nerfing amarr....and I just got trolled. oh well.

Angelic Eviaran
Posted - 2008.09.04 16:34:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Rajere
Is there really a whine thread for Amarr, the best pvp race in game atm?

Retribution: who cares
vengeance: all AFs suck until nano-patch
Omen: who cares
Maller: seriously who cares
Augoror: who cares
Curse: They'll be alright as support and anti-support roles.
Pilgrim: Pilgrim is already great at what it does, there is no range issue, learn to fly them.
Sentinel: strongest frigate in the game, stop whining
Prophecy: Harbinger. seriously. Cyclone? Ferox?
Crystals: Only if all ammo was allowed to be switched for the entire rack, which the dev's have already said no it makes too many server calls and FC's would be ordering their fleets to switch ammo types constantly which would break the node. the fast crystal switching is already a benefit, all other guns/missiles must wait 10 seconds doing 0 DPS and they must switch ammo one turret at a time as well.

I'm pretty sure this is a fake whine thread to steer the devs away from nerfing amarr....and I just got trolled. oh well.


Well, every other race seems to have their megathread. We need one too because even amarr has broken ships. I think can all agree that every race has its broken ships and easy ways of fixing them. Let people that dont crosstrain all over the place have some fun too.

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.09.05 15:43:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Rei Crye
Amarr are 100% totally fine, some meh ships. But all round a great race to fly. Started training them a long time ago, back when some people called them a joke Razz.

Oh yea, Armor tanked curse for the win.


Uhm armor tanked curse sucks. You cant really fuel the reppers and neuts at the same time long enough. Curse dies with nano nerf.

Rainsdon
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.09.05 18:31:00 - [187]
 

Amarr got buffed the other patch. Back of the line, bub. Other races ships could do with a change.

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.09.05 19:47:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Rainsdon
Amarr got buffed the other patch. Back of the line, bub. Other races ships could do with a change.


But they are in a 2 year queue now. Amarr problems are not fixed yet. Why not fix the whole race while youre at it. Just fix these remaining ships and be done with it.

Commander Krispy
Amarr
Posted - 2008.09.06 11:14:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Rei Crye
Amarr are 100% totally fine, some meh ships. But all round a great race to fly. Started training them a long time ago, back when some people called them a joke Razz.

Oh yea, Armor tanked curse for the win.


Uhm armor tanked curse sucks. You cant really fuel the reppers and neuts at the same time long enough. Curse dies with nano nerf.


+1 of course, nanonerf = die of the curse.

If CCP add the range bonus on the pilgrim, definitely the curse is out of the game.

Commander Krispy
Amarr
Posted - 2008.09.06 11:16:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Rajere

Pilgrim: Pilgrim is already great at what it does, there is no range issue, learn to fly them.



True story, some player whine because pilgrim s***, but that's wrong the don't know how to play it :p

Slade Hoo
Amarr
Retired Gunslingers
Posted - 2008.09.06 16:47:00 - [191]
 

don't train for Amarr...they are broken. stick to Minmatar/Gallente

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.09.09 17:55:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Commander Krispy


+1 of course, nanonerf = die of the curse.

If CCP add the range bonus on the pilgrim, definitely the curse is out of the game.


Yeah this is a huge problem. The only reason why curse didnt die with the nos nerf like pilgrim did is because curse could tank without cap, ie speed tank. Curse is going to be a very crappy ship soon. Wait and see.

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.09 21:23:00 - [193]
 

Edited by: Siddy on 09/09/2008 21:23:43
I heard that Amarr are suffering some serios problems.

Lets start adressing them by adding more DPS to Geddon, more range to apoch and more base damage mod to all lasers.



oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 7,5% instead of 5%

whisk
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.09.09 21:25:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Siddy
Edited by: Siddy on 09/09/2008 21:23:43
I heard that Amarr are suffering some serios problems.

Lets start adressing them by adding more DPS to Geddon, more range to apoch and more base damage mod to all lasers.



oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 7,5% instead of 5%


dont forget that uber teh weapon that kills capital fleet, we want that also!

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.09 21:27:00 - [195]
 

yes, abaddon needs that 1 shot wonder against caps!

so it will reduce cap blobbing! Makes perfect sence!

My'kel An'jelo
Amarr
Posted - 2008.09.09 23:58:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: Siddy
oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 10% instead of 5%


FYP amarr bs r rly **** ccp they need something to help them combat how overpowered the minmatar bs are Rolling EyesRolling Eyes

AstroPhobic
Minmatar
Holding Corp
Posted - 2008.09.09 23:59:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: My'kel An'jelo
Originally by: Siddy
oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 50% instead of 5%


FYP amarr bs r rly **** ccp they need something to help them combat how overpowered the minmatar bs are Rolling EyesRolling Eyes


Fixed

My'kel An'jelo
Amarr
Posted - 2008.09.10 00:00:00 - [198]
 

Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: My'kel An'jelo
Originally by: Siddy
oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 50% instead of 5%


FYP amarr bs r rly **** ccp they need something to help them combat how overpowered the minmatar bs are Rolling EyesRolling Eyes


Fixed


thsi guy noes waht hes on about, astrophobic 4 ccp dev imo

Chienka
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.10 00:15:00 - [199]
 

Bring back the nos.







tbh

Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Navigators of the Abyss
Posted - 2008.09.10 02:26:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Chienka
Bring back the nos.







tbh


I miss my nossing rifter!

The entire minmatar race cried when they nerfed nos.....

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.09.10 18:50:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: Siddy
Edited by: Siddy on 09/09/2008 21:23:43
I heard that Amarr are suffering some serios problems.

Lets start adressing them by adding more DPS to Geddon, more range to apoch and more base damage mod to all lasers.



oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 7,5% instead of 5%


That is right my friend.

Chienka
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.10 23:18:00 - [202]
 

All trolls aside, the abaddon should recieve a boosted cap, given that the apoc was boosted, and now the apoc has a capacitor which is 20-30% more "effective".

Compulsory cap boosters are not fun, and even with them the abaddon is somewhat incapable of fleet fights due to being unable to shoot for more than 4-5 minutes before capping out.

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.11 10:05:00 - [203]
 

Originally by: Chienka
All trolls aside, the abaddon should recieve a boosted cap, given that the apoc was boosted, and now the apoc has a capacitor which is 20-30% more "effective".

Compulsory cap boosters are not fun, and even with them the abaddon is somewhat incapable of fleet fights due to being unable to shoot for more than 4-5 minutes before capping out.


yes, 50% more cap nao!!11

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2008.09.11 10:19:00 - [204]
 

While we're boosting Amarr, can we change the Drake's bonus from kinetic damage to missile ROF? Oh, and increase HAM damage by 25% as well. Wink

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.09.11 10:27:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Siddy
Originally by: Chienka
All trolls aside, the abaddon should recieve a boosted cap, given that the apoc was boosted, and now the apoc has a capacitor which is 20-30% more "effective".

Compulsory cap boosters are not fun, and even with them the abaddon is somewhat incapable of fleet fights due to being unable to shoot for more than 4-5 minutes before capping out.


yes, 50% more cap nao!!11


100% moar cap!!! Think of the pilots with low cap skillz!

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.09.11 10:27:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
While we're boosting Amarr, can we change the Drake's bonus from kinetic damage to missile ROF? Oh, and increase HAM damage by 25% 50% as well. Wink


Approved!

My'kel An'jelo
Amarr
Posted - 2008.09.11 10:49:00 - [207]
 

thses idears r all gd idears wich mite help make all race gd as minmatar (atm) coz minny r overpower (imo)

Copyleft
Posted - 2008.09.11 11:30:00 - [208]
 

Retribution needs a mid in exchange of the useless high.

Sentinel needs or

1) more speed
2) more HP

Sentinel is a cool ship, but against any missile boat you are DEAD, and not in 20 sec, in a volley. Therefore it needs more HP or more speed, or both. Who is going to waste 20M in an instapop frig? I am saying this of my own experience, you die far too quickly to be usefull. With electronic attack ship at 4 the nos/neut energy output and range is decent, but it's HP isn't greater than a heavy drone Sad

LadyLubU2
Caldari
Posted - 2008.09.11 11:54:00 - [209]
 

Only thing Amarr needs atm is pilots who are happy and close worthless 'boost-amarr' threads like this one.

ktnxbai

ps. autocannons/arty/minnie bs/blasters/damps are now...please wait 2 years for the next amarr 'boosts'

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.09.11 18:46:00 - [210]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
While we're boosting Amarr, can we change the Drake's bonus from kinetic damage to missile ROF? Oh, and increase HAM damage by 25% as well. Wink


Drake is fine. I do agree that both HAM and rockets need a rof boost for more dps. They do too little dps compared to HML and SML when you compare to torps vs cruise.


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