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Eleanor DeAquitaine
Gallente
Sirius Business. |
Posted - 2008.07.31 02:43:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Eleanor DeAquitaine on 31/07/2008 02:49:02
After playing on Sisi, and experiencing the new BS's that maneuver and fly like supercaps, seeing inty's nerfed in speed 40%, and looking at skills you trained and stuff you bought wasted and reduced to nothing, do you vote for NO CONFIDENCE in the management of the Dev team, which admitted in the Dev blog that they came up with the concept of this massive kick to the balls nerf in a mere 5 hours, whilst players have proposed far superior solutions over the last YEAR?
IMHO, whomever came up with this stupid plan should not be allowed to plan anything more complex than possibly lunch (that we don't have to eat) ever again! This proposal makes as much sense as swatting a fly with a nuclear bomb. And will produce the same collateral damage. 117km/s with Nav 5 on a freaking Raven... Stupid.
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Eleanor DeAquitaine
Gallente
Sirius Business.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 02:44:00 - [ 2]
I of course support my own proposal.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
The Knights Templar
Strategic Operations Brigade |
Posted - 2008.07.31 03:39:00 - [ 3]
If they only came up with this nerf in 5 hours then that in itself is questionable.
Just based on the number of pages in the yes to the nerf/no to the nerf motions in this forum I would say that this is a very big deal.
I don't support the nerf because the nerf represents the whining and crying of those that never actually tried to combat nanogangs.
It's actually quite easy.
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Danjira Ryuujin
Caldari |
Posted - 2008.07.31 04:03:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Danjira Ryuujin on 31/07/2008 04:04:18
Edit: Thought twice, I'll avoid bashing the op. |
Fahtim Meidires
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 04:14:00 - [ 5]
I hope they made the nerf in 5 hours - honestly it is a good tactic and hear me out here:
First off we all know that the speed nerf is subject to change. The fact that this warning is in big yellow letters tells u that not everything will be included. The best way to test a speed nerf is to apply everything at once, then look at the pros and cons of each individual change.
I doubt half of the nerf will make it through, but I applaud the devs if they all got drunk and in 5 hours thought of all the things that could balance speed. We'll see in a week or two a completely revamped nerf that will be tested again before the final changes. |
Junkie Beverage
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2008.07.31 04:37:00 - [ 6]
honestly after hearing player feedback in general i'm quite convinced that eve is better off if they dont listen to player feedback in general |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate |
Posted - 2008.07.31 05:15:00 - [ 7]
Four devs who have been thinking about speed for a year sitting down and spending five hours hashing out ideas face-to-face is a whole hell of a lot more than five hours of forum *****ing. Frankly, that sounds like a whole lot of time to me - I'd be unimpressed by 20 people for 5 hours, but 4 guys can actually get stuff done.
I don't really like a lot of the changes, but I'm not going to vote no confidence because of that alone. |
Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven |
Posted - 2008.07.31 05:15:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: Sylthi on 31/07/2008 05:20:59Personally, you would have gotten a check from me is you had called for a "Vote of no confidence in the BALANCE team". After all, I wouldn't be paying to play if I thought ALL of the devs were doing a terrible job. Some of them are really cool guys. *cough* Greyscale. *cough* The one thing I will second however, is that it does seem at times that all SOME members of the "balance" team (*cough* Zulupark *cough* Nozh *cough*) do 24/7 is sit around, drink beer, smoke ganja, and dream up as many ways as possible to screw over Eve and its playerbase. My two isk. Cheers. P.S. The final insult: 117 m/s Raven. 125 m/s (max skill) Fenrir. Yep. That's right. The freighter is faster than the battleship. Something a little wrong with this picture you think "balance team"? Maybe? Huh? Just a little??  |
Synapse Archae
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.31 05:50:00 - [ 9]
Supportin' da op. My positions are quite clear in the threads I've started and discussed in. Its a terrible idea. |
Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:00:00 - [ 10]
The single biggest problem with nano ships wasnt their combat abilities, it was how fast they could move across the map and evade things they shouldnt be able to. |
Fahtim Meidires
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:06:00 - [ 11]
 Originally by: Anubis Xian
The single biggest problem with nano ships wasnt their combat abilities, it was how fast they could move across the map and evade things they shouldnt be able to.
Like they were too fast? |
Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:11:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Fahtim Meidires
Originally by: Anubis Xian
The single biggest problem with nano ships wasnt their combat abilities, it was how fast they could move across the map and evade things they shouldnt be able to.
Like they were too fast?
In a manner of speaking. CCP has been trying to help keep Alliances into a more local focus rather than spanning multiple regions. This is why they dropped Sov 5 from my proposal when they used it. It is also why they made more entrances into 0.0. Nerfing Nanos to CCP is primarily about traffic control and population management. What they are doing is trying not to overdo it. But most players are too selfish to notice anything other than their ships not doing 10km/s+ anymore. |
Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
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Posted - 2008.07.31 11:41:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Sylthi
P.S. The final insult: 117 m/s Raven. 125 m/s (max skill) Fenrir. Yep. That's right. The freighter is faster than the battleship. Something a little wrong with this picture you think "balance team"? Maybe? Huh? Just a little??
[Nozh mode] Thank you for pointing this out Sylthi, we of the dev balance team realize we have made a mistake here, and are fully willing to admit that. Freighter sublight and warp speeds will be halved with the next patch.[/Nozh mode] |
Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2008.07.31 14:12:00 - [ 14]
Adapt or Die you bunch of girlie girls.  |
Matrixcvd
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:15:00 - [ 15]
The balance team has no idea what they are doing, what they are screwing with, and are the epitome of how not to interact with people regarding game play changes...
pretty much a lot of idiots |
Tzujeih
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2008.07.31 14:17:00 - [ 16]
lol wut the ****?
i vote you kill yourself |
Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2008.07.31 14:43:00 - [ 17]
LOL, what?
Yes, you're going to VOTE ZOMG NO CONFIDENSE in the entire development team. Oh, man, burn!
So what does that actually mean? Nothing. Squat. It means angry people on the forum have made posts that range from valid to completely asinine regarding a design change.
If you want to vote no confidence in the development team, do it with your wallet. Anything else, especially something as dumb as this, would be pointless. |
Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2008.07.31 14:55:00 - [ 18]
Look, please quit it with silly "no confidence" in X,Y,Z threads. They have no meaning. Its just spam. Get on the test server. Test the changes. Help the devs and testers see the impact of these changes on the game and make your point in a useful way.
Can we have this thread locked please?
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Shiho Weitong
Caldari
Koa Mai Hoku |
Posted - 2008.07.31 15:00:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Eleanor DeAquitaine
Edited by: Eleanor DeAquitaine on 31/07/2008 02:49:02
After playing on Sisi, and experiencing the new BS's that maneuver and fly like supercaps, seeing inty's nerfed in speed 40%, and looking at skills you trained and stuff you bought wasted and reduced to nothing, do you vote for NO CONFIDENCE in the management of the Dev team, which admitted in the Dev blog that they came up with the concept of this massive kick to the balls nerf in a mere 5 hours, whilst players have proposed far superior solutions over the last YEAR?
IMHO, whomever came up with this stupid plan should not be allowed to plan anything more complex than possibly lunch (that we don't have to eat) ever again! This proposal makes as much sense as swatting a fly with a nuclear bomb. And will produce the same collateral damage. 117km/s with Nav 5 on a freaking Raven... Stupid.
Buy a stock majority or STFU! |
Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:59:00 - [ 20]
Vote with you feet and wallet, not with some stupid thread no one gives a **** about if you feel that strongly.
Supporting anyway, just in case. |
Heartstone
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.07.31 16:15:00 - [ 21]
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Rutger Centemus
Phantom Squad
Atlas. |
Posted - 2008.08.01 09:03:00 - [ 22]
Pro: the PROPOSED changes on sisi seem over the top.
Con: "vote of no confidence in the management of the DEV team?" At least as over the top as the changes on sisi.
* wanders off, looking for the thumbs down - option... * |
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