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Irish Whiskey
Caldari
Warped Mining
Strip Mining Club
Posted - 2008.07.16 16:57:00 - [1]
 

Linkage

It's funny to see big company CEO smacktalk.

The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
Posted - 2008.07.16 17:02:00 - [2]
 

BRILLIANT!....

"How much faster can you render the blue screen of death?"



ROFFLE!



Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.16 17:02:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Bhaal on 16/07/2008 17:02:40
Quote:
"You already have the right machine to run Excel. You bought it four years ago," he said.



LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Pure awesome!

mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
Posted - 2008.07.16 17:05:00 - [4]
 

You tell em Nvidia boss! now fix your god damn drivers Mad

jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2008.07.16 17:06:00 - [5]
 

"How much faster can you render the blue screen of death?"


Classsic quote !!!!Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Straight Chillen
Gallente
Solar Wind
Posted - 2008.07.16 17:46:00 - [6]
 

that was awesome

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.07.16 17:48:00 - [7]
 

Erm, link is broken?

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.07.16 18:14:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Erm, link is broken?


Works just fine here. (Firefox 3)

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2008.07.16 18:16:00 - [9]
 

That's some good quality smack right there.Very Happy

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2008.07.16 19:16:00 - [10]
 

TBH, that's alot more fire than I imagined NVIDIA's CEO to have... lol. I love how he seems to have delivered a KO to both Intel and MS at the same time.. Laughing

-Liang

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:12:00 - [11]
 

Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now? By my understanding, they just got completely pwned in the graphics card department.

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:17:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now? By my understanding, they just got completely pwned in the graphics card department.


I'm pretty sure they are worried, AMD caught them by surprise with the 48xx series. But they still have the "performance crown" with the most powerful single GPU graphics solution, to some that is all that matters. To me, bang for my buck matters, which means AMD has a commanding lead. Smile

Cosy
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:25:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now?

ATI is a joke
only buy one time a ATI card i will never buy one again
ATI dont even get decent drivers for linux. . .

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now?

ATI is a joke
only buy one time a ATI card i will never buy one again
ATI dont even get decent drivers for linux. . .


You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.

Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:52:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.


Have they also improved the driver situation since AMD took over ATI?

I've also had bad experiences with their driver support in the past, particularly under Linux, and that's the reason why I've gone since with nVidia exclusively. I even remember once having to stick with an older version of X11 for way too many months as ATI couldn't be bothered to update their drivers to work with the newer version.

But if that has changed, I'll be happy to reconsider their cards.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:53:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 16/07/2008 21:54:12
Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now?

ATI is a joke
only buy one time a ATI card i will never buy one again
ATI dont even get decent drivers for linux. . .


meet the ATI 4870, or "how do I get performance over a GT280, by spending 20% less in a crossfire solution with better performance"

Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.


Have they also improved the driver situation since AMD took over ATI?

I've also had bad experiences with their driver support in the past, particularly under Linux, and that's the reason why I've gone since with nVidia exclusively. I even remember once having to stick with an older version of X11 for way too many months as ATI couldn't be bothered to update their drivers to work with the newer version.

But if that has changed, I'll be happy to reconsider their cards.



last time I checked, ATI released the source code of their drivers to GPL. It's still not at NV level, but large steps in performance have been made.

Cosy
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:53:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now?

ATI is a joke
only buy one time a ATI card i will never buy one again
ATI dont even get decent drivers for linux. . .


You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.


plz give a proof
show me a 5 min eve movie whit 4800 on linux(ubuntu)+compiz
You obviously not heard about linux dont u

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.07.16 21:59:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.


Have they also improved the driver situation since AMD took over ATI?

I've also had bad experiences with their driver support in the past, particularly under Linux, and that's the reason why I've gone since with nVidia exclusively. I even remember once having to stick with an older version of X11 for way too many months as ATI couldn't be bothered to update their drivers to work with the newer version.

But if that has changed, I'll be happy to reconsider their cards.



I wouldn't know about the Linux drivers, but the Windows ones are fine. Not a thing wrong with them.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.07.16 22:01:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now?

ATI is a joke
only buy one time a ATI card i will never buy one again
ATI dont even get decent drivers for linux. . .


You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.


plz give a proof
show me a 5 min eve movie whit 4800 on linux(ubuntu)+compiz
You obviously not heard about linux dont u


I was talking about why nVidia should be worried, not us. The vast majority of people use Windows exclusively. Thus, the market for Linux compatible graphics cards is very small.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2008.07.16 22:02:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Edited by: Grimpak on 16/07/2008 21:54:12
Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Shouldn't nVidia be more worried about AMD right now?

ATI is a joke
only buy one time a ATI card i will never buy one again
ATI dont even get decent drivers for linux. . .


meet the ATI 4870, or "how do I get performance over a GT280, by spending 20% less in a crossfire solution with better performance"

Originally by: Isiskhan
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
You've obviously not heard about ATI's 4800 series. They wipe the floor with nVidia in terms of performance vs price.


Have they also improved the driver situation since AMD took over ATI?

I've also had bad experiences with their driver support in the past, particularly under Linux, and that's the reason why I've gone since with nVidia exclusively. I even remember once having to stick with an older version of X11 for way too many months as ATI couldn't be bothered to update their drivers to work with the newer version.

But if that has changed, I'll be happy to reconsider their cards.



last time I checked, ATI released the source code of their drivers to GPL. It's still not at NV level, but large steps in performance have been made.


What I heard was that they released the specifications for the drivers, but still not the source code.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2008.07.16 22:04:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
What I heard was that they released the specifications for the drivers, but still not the source code.


my mistake then.Embarassed

MenanceWhite
Amarr
Emi Raaf's Corporation
Posted - 2008.07.17 07:14:00 - [22]
 

Stop being such fanbois, NVIDIA has been crap in terms of development since 9800. ATIs 4k series are much more priceworthy than the NVISIAS 200 series.

Just look at the performance charts on the reviews from any of the major hardware sites - the performance of 4850 is almost on par with 260 and it costs less than half the price of its "competitor".

4850 x2 is much better than 280 while costing much less too.

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.17 10:56:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Bhaal on 17/07/2008 10:57:53
I've gotten burned by ATI one too many times. Sorry ATI fanboi's, not interested...

I'll always take computer hardware/drivers that are more reliable over slightly better performance any day...

ATI sucks IMO. I've given them multiple opportunities to prove me wrong, they have failed every time. (except for 9800PRO, their last good card)

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.07.17 11:46:00 - [24]
 

Hah just because YOU had a couple of bad cards you write off the entire lot AND THEN use the worst excuse for a reliable chip (9800pro) that died in droves as their one good example? Anyway both Nvidia and ATI have had their fare share of leads and terrible cards (though I think the geforce 4mx will always have place as the worst card).

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.17 12:06:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Bhaal on 17/07/2008 12:09:47
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Hah just because YOU had a couple of bad cards you write off the entire lot AND THEN use the worst excuse for a reliable chip (9800pro) that died in droves as their one good example? Anyway both Nvidia and ATI have had their fare share of leads and terrible cards (though I think the geforce 4mx will always have place as the worst card).


I'm a customer, so yes, I go based off my past experiences.

You have a problem with that?

I've also gotten burned by ATI here at work building CAD machines for 3D work.

I say no thanks to ATI no matter how much others like them. 80% or more of my experience with ATI cards has been bad.

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.07.17 12:31:00 - [26]
 

8500, 9800pro, x700pro, x1900GT, HD3870, HD4850

The only one thats dead is the 9800pro (well I did volt mod it lol) TBH if your failure rate is 80% your doing something wrong.

(And yes there have been nvidia cards in there too, being a fanboy for either side is stupid).

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.17 12:37:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Bhaal on 17/07/2008 12:39:58
Quote:
The only one thats dead is the 9800pro (well I did volt mod it lol) TBH if your failure rate is 80% your doing something wrong.


Yes, the error was buying ATI cards.

I have very little problems with NVIDIA cards.

And I'm not talking cards dying. I'm talking driver performance & compatibility issues.

You love ATI, good for you, you're not going to convince me to buy one by telling me my past experiences were wrong? Give me a break... Rolling Eyes

Dantes Revenge
Caldari
Posted - 2008.07.17 13:02:00 - [28]
 

It doesn't matter what you buy, some are good and some are bad. Nvidia have the best track record from my point of view, having experience with several games running (or not running as in my case) on ATI cards. I think I've once had a problem with a Nvidia card (Farcry) but that was the game and not the drivers and was patched within a couple of days of the game release.

So far, I've had 5200, 5600, 6200, 7300 and now a 7600 and not a single hitch with any. I refuse to pay 300+ UKP for a graphic card so I wait till they come down below the 100 mark. When I can get a DX10 compatible card <100 pounds, I'll buy one.

Most of the time, it's Microshaft changing things in DirectX and not telling anyone that causes the video drivers to screw up and require them to be updated. The only times I've ever had BSOD is right after a DX update, can anyone say DX8a?

I love the smacktalk though, it makes you realise that even a CEO has to have a dig at the competition occasionally Laughing

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.07.17 13:33:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Arana Tellen on 17/07/2008 13:33:46
Better get your wallet out then:

9600GT

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=772608

£80inc vat.

Its around the speed of an 8800GT.

3850 512mb

£65inv vat AND shipping:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139617

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.07.17 13:42:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Arana Tellen
Edited by: Arana Tellen on 17/07/2008 13:33:46
Better get your wallet out then:

9600GT

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=772608

£80inc vat.

Its around the speed of an 8800GT.

3850 512mb

£65inv vat AND shipping:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139617


That's one thing I don't do anymore. I buy cards that are 1 generation old, I no longer pay for the newest hardware (except for work computers, as that's not my money). Games are not that important to me anymore...


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