Posted - 2008.07.14 01:16:00 - [91]

 

Originally by: Jeanne D'Eve

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According to http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html Eve's subscription rate is closer to 250K.

Regardless, if you like this game and CCP's price is what they need to keep the game profitable, then you pay it and be happy. You can't compare Eve to any other game.

jd

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yeah becasue a website pulling numbers out its ass makes it fact..

Posted - 2008.07.14 01:27:00 - [93]

 

Originally by: Bob T'Miner

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Firstly I congratulate your skill at reading comprehension. You have out classed many who have replied here.

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As you can see in this thread there are many people who are anti-social.

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Also, you appear to be confusing "antisocial" with "have the gall to disagree with my infallible opinion".

Posted - 2008.07.14 01:44:00 - [95]

 

Originally by: Khatred

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So like, mmmm, what's worse here, OP jumping to conclusions or the rabid fanbois?

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The fanbois..

People who jump to conclusions always have a chance to redeem themselves, and will usually concede when confronted with factual information.

Posted - 2008.07.14 02:09:00 - [97]

 

So let me get this straight.

You buy gas at the same price every different place you go?

Thats what I thought.

Posted - 2008.07.14 03:03:00 - [99]

 

Originally by: Doc Fury

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People who jump to conclusions always have a chance to redeem themselves, and will usually concede when confronted with factual information.

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Are we talking about the same people here?

Posted - 2008.07.14 06:13:00 - [103]

 

Yay one less person crowding eve.

Posted - 2008.07.14 13:36:00 - [105]

 

Originally by: Banana Torres

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ffs Just sell another pint of blood and get over it.

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Wins the thread.

By the way peak time yesterday I saw 39,000 acounts logged when I came online. Not much of a drop...it was Sunday afternoon though.


Slade

Posted - 2008.07.14 16:39:00 - [107]

 

Thank you for a real post Ra Vhim. Lets see where we may have some common ground:

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Pretty much everything is debatable. If you don’t think Eve is a premium, then so be it. Why you would doubt that I do not know since you have not explained yourself.

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It was perhaps a mistake to put this section in. I did it out of outrage that they would spin such BS as to tell us the $5 was because Eve is "premium". I'm sure Blizzard, SOE, Mythic, etc. all think thier monthly subscription MMOs are a premium product. I have learned after posting this that the increase was to offset the less money they take in per code for retailer's cut. If they said that in the first place I don't know of anyone that would have been upset.

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Where do you get this information about nosedives and a suffering in-game economy?

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This was a projection based on 3 years of economics classes. I admited it was a theory from the outset. I have sence learned CCP expects this also but they expect the trend to be minor. Considering they have the subscription details I will take this at face value.

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Again, where do you get your information that credit card customers go back to WoW? Do you have a source the rest of us don’t have? Or are credit card customers = you?

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I meant CC customers also would leave if they found the game no longer fun. I admit there was alot of assumption here.

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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You seem to state an obvious fact about a dramatic drop in the coming 4-6 months. What do you base this upon? Are you qualified to make such estimations? Also, if your divinations come to be true, how do you know how CCP will act? Inside source?

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Again, CCP has already admitted this will happen. they project a small loss. Again they have the nubers so I admit I overestimated the number of alt accounts being paid for by isk for cards.

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Irony, yes, I got that. Tell me, what does premium mean for you? You have not even touched that in your post. Is premium = cheapest product?

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I think it more appropriate to ask what does premium mean to CCP Marketing? Is it a scapegoat word to mean "I don't think you deserve or can handle a straight answer so I will spew complete BS at you"?

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Yes, I agree that it can be tough for new players. I have found plenty of social people in Eve, though. Perhaps people are just anti-social around you?

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LOL No mostly on these boards were peope read a portion of a topic and think they need to insert some inane off-topic one-liner that doesn't contribute to the discussion.

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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If they think the same thing as I is fun, then they should have no problem having fun. My first character, made 2006, joined 0.0 and started PvPing after 5 days in game. I had plenty of fun.

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Sounds great! Would you consider your experience to be common?

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Firstly I must congratulate you on smoothly insulting many who posted in this thread while congratulating someone. You are the kind of social player Eve needs more of.

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Comment was aimed at those posting with no value to the thread (see above). If that was you then so be it. Yes I am a smart ass. Your one too. I can live with that, can you?

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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Yeah, tell me about it. Though I suspect most people have read whining threads similar to this many times over, which can be a reason why they don’t throw flowers at you.

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While I didn't expect flowers maybe, reading the thread before posting was also too much to ask.

Originally by: Ra Vhim

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I wouldn’t go so far as to make it sounds Eve only have damn nice people.. But it is nice to see that you are receptive to people opinions, even if it differs from your. Many think life is a ***** when people disagree. I mean, why respond to a post if you don’t agree!

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Indeed. I expected to be flamed. I hoped that some actually took the time to read the thread. I wasn't disappointed.

Posted - 2008.07.14 16:44:00 - [109]

 

Originally by: Buxaroo

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I did not read the thread but HAD to post anyway.

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There you go, fixed it for you.

Posted - 2008.07.14 21:07:00 - [111]

 

Originally by: Cmdr Sy

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I didn't feel it nessisary to read the entire thread but I felt a need to post. Did I score a point on the OP?

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There you go, fixed it for you.

Posted - 2008.07.14 22:35:00 - [113]

 

According to that chart something called dofus is doing way better than eve... I looked it up, dear god, how the heck did they get that many subscribers?

Posted - 2008.07.14 23:35:00 - [115]

 

Originally by: Fabien Aldric

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Originally by: nahtoh

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Originally by: Bob T'Miner

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Originally by: Tippia

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Originally by: Bob T'Miner

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CCP is in Iceland not Europe.

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Iceland is a European country.

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My ignorance. Fine.

Now support why the increase in price (I will grant you exchange rates) has caused the timecode options to be reduced to one, and why the increase in price has caused CCP to backorder the timecodes.

Or is this not your argument? You certainly mentioned it. Did you have one beyond European Union membership?

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The servers however are in London...

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And Iceland isn't in the EU.

ITT: Dumb american's who don't understand how the world economy works complaining about internet spaceships economy.

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Who said I was in the USA dumbass? The servers being out side of Iceland would suggest to me that UKs standard of living and operating costs need to be factored into CCPs prices.

And was I complaining about the prices? Hers a hint NO!!!!!

Posted - 2008.07.15 06:24:00 - [117]

 

Originally by: Adira Mollari

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Whats the comparison to paying via credit card vs GTC ?

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I first bought a 30-day ETC just before my trial period expired. This just before the 60-day GTC/ETC came out. When my account was up for renewal, I changed to a credit card subscription, and paid for one month. This was a bit cheaper than the 60-day GTC/ETC. I will re-evaluate when my subscription is up for renewal at the end of this month, will probably change it to a 3-month subscription then, though.

AB

Posted - 2008.07.15 10:49:00 - [119]

 

Originally by: Frug

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We were all new once. Most of us have not been playing since beta. We were all "have nots" once.

Some people whined and complained, were generally inept, and/or completely failed to break into this community. The rest of us managed, and now feel entitled to say what we want. And we are entitled to do so.

Suck it.

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I expected a serious reply and ended up laughing. Cheers

I can't post a serious reply to this thread without saying "go back to wow" thereby nullifying any seriousness I had intended. Just pay for a year at a shot and quit *****ing. It was $141 for a year for me, and that's how I paid for all of my accounts. Comes out to $11.75 a month for eve.