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Anopheli
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
Posted - 2009.04.06 07:02:00 - [181]
 

Support. Absolutely.

The Gallente Recon ships used to have a role, and actual usefulness prior to the RSD nerf that came with EWAR balancing. This probably needed to be done, as the OP mentions, RSDs were being used in all sorts of ridiculous places. However - the Arazu and Lachesis in particular are not even pale ghosts compared to the other race's Recon Ships. The Falcon is the ubiquitous PvP condom, and even with nerfs, the Rook will likely take up its position in most fleets. The Minmatar ships, I'll admit I don't see much of (then I don't see many Minmatar ships), buff webbing, perhaps one of the most useful game mechanics there is. The Pilgrim and Curse are simply vicious little ships, that for their size and price are nearly without equal.

The Arazu and Lachesis - why even fly them?

Aniel Zaar
Gallente
BIG
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.04.06 20:21:00 - [182]
 

Supported.

shi'ako
Posted - 2009.04.07 13:30:00 - [183]
 

Edited by: shi''ako on 07/04/2009 13:30:19
The old nerf was needed no argument, but without a boost (especially to the Gal recons) they just became too weak compared to their counterparts. Rolling Eyes

More range and actual effectiveness would be ideal.Idea

Pghagugngog Eithat
Posted - 2009.04.07 14:42:00 - [184]
 

yea

Kralin Ignatov
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Posted - 2009.04.15 05:40:00 - [185]
 


Amaldor Themodius
Psykotic Meat
Posted - 2009.04.16 14:13:00 - [186]
 

Edited by: Amaldor Themodius on 16/04/2009 14:13:28
/ signed

GIDGET GLAM
Posted - 2009.04.16 14:18:00 - [187]
 

Seriously RSD's cant effectively ewar 1 ship and the falcon can jam close to a half dozen where is the balance?

Azekial
Beasts of Burden
Equinox Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.10 23:38:00 - [188]
 

/ Supported

Yahrr
The Tuskers
Posted - 2009.06.11 01:20:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: GIDGET GLAM
Seriously RSD's cant effectively ewar 1 ship and the falcon can jam close to a half dozen where is the balance?


They can, with a bonussed ship like the Arazu. The Falcon can do it all much better indeed, but if you take Arazu vs Falcon the Falcon will get nerfed as ECM is chance based and probably occupied jamming that battleship. And how about breaking into missions? Falcon fails at that. :)

Damps are not totally worthless now but they still NEED a BOOST! supported.


(woops*, I accidently hit the report button instead of the quote button, so my apologies GIDGET GLAM if you get an angry GM shouting at you...)

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services

Posted - 2009.06.11 02:32:00 - [190]
 

Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 11/06/2009 02:32:22
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 11/06/2009 02:32:12
Simple solution.

Rather then boosting 101 ships.

Just nerf caldari and we'll be balanced :-)

Tortugan
Internal Anarchy
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2009.06.11 06:37:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 11/06/2009 02:32:22
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 11/06/2009 02:32:12
Simple solution.

Rather then boosting 101 ships.

Just nerf caldari and we'll be balanced :-)



Disagree. Recon ships need a role, but CCP is doing it wrong. It's a lot more work to properly rebalance everything that needs changing, but boosting RSDs would be a step in the right direction.

Arengor
Redarmy Special Forces

Posted - 2009.06.11 15:03:00 - [192]
 

Yes, just yes.
RSD ships need a boost.

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.06.11 17:13:00 - [193]
 

Another bump for this. CCP Please stop ignoring this subject.

Zxenis
Strategic Syndicate
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.06.11 18:43:00 - [194]
 


i dont even use em for RSD, just for the scram bonus

Jeremey
Glittering Dust
Posted - 2009.06.12 13:35:00 - [195]
 

Supported.

Imertu Solientai
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.12 22:59:00 - [196]
 

Trying to keep this above all the crap troll threads. *looks at chribba*

This is still an issue, whether the caldari majority think so or not.

Torrin Aranor
Posted - 2009.06.13 11:41:00 - [197]
 

Supported :)

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.06.13 14:50:00 - [198]
 

Edited by: RedSplat on 13/06/2009 14:49:37
The issue is that on a one to one basis RSD's are actually very powerful indeed; yes they are, start flying intelligently.

However, as soon as you have a second target to worry about everything typically goes to hell.

The seemingly obvious solution is to just increase base inflicted penalties across the board for all RSD's.

But that creates another problem where people have utility slots stuffed full of them on no-specialized ships.

We've been there before.

I don't ascribe to the school of thought that says an ECM bonus'd ship should be able to cripple half a small gang (Yes i STILL hate Falcons) but i would like to see a careful re-balancing of RSD's.

Kamina Kasai
Glittering Dust
Posted - 2009.06.14 06:56:00 - [199]
 

Supported.

Eithen Kihne
Posted - 2009.06.14 10:27:00 - [200]
 

supported, and i hope that to fix them will not require another couple of years.

Photon Ceray
Posted - 2009.06.14 12:00:00 - [201]
 

signed.

Aionstar
Posted - 2009.06.15 07:21:00 - [202]
 


Relatyve Mynd
Posted - 2009.06.16 20:22:00 - [203]
 

supported, they need a buff, though not a big one. Just a smallish one.

Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.06.17 02:31:00 - [204]
 

Gallente EW ships need love, supported

Azekial
Beasts of Burden
Equinox Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.18 20:56:00 - [205]
 

Bump; I really hope CCP looks at this.

Iskoff
Posted - 2009.06.20 06:37:00 - [206]
 

Just bump.

Karentaki
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.06.20 15:14:00 - [207]
 

BUUUUUUUMMMMMPPPPPP!!! Also, Fix the Arazu please.

Arengor
Redarmy Special Forces
Posted - 2009.06.23 09:26:00 - [208]
 

Bump.
RSD need fix!

Sun Pin
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2009.06.23 09:43:00 - [209]
 

Is it so that EW should only be used on EW ships? Boost RSD instead of just the ships!

Karina Redstar
Posted - 2009.06.23 12:48:00 - [210]
 

signed


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