Posted - 2008.02.18 23:06:00 - [2]

 

Well, it does reduce CPU usage on some modules, so it might be useful for some tight fits.

Posted - 2008.02.18 23:08:00 - [4]

 

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Skill at installing Electronic upgrades, e.g. signal amplifier, Co-Processors and backup sensor array. 5% reduction of sensor upgrade CPU needs per skill level.

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While in general this isn't so useful there are some fits that may need this.

Tech 2 co-processor needs level 4 of this skill. Tech2 Signal Amplifier needs level 5, but those are hardly used.
Does it matter tho? Atleast it's good skill to have so you can fly covert ops and recons.

Btw. there is Skills forum for discussion about skills

Posted - 2008.02.18 23:12:00 - [6]

 

Black Market, did it get pulled alltogether and what about those with it maxed out?

Posted - 2008.02.19 01:26:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Rawr Cristina

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Tactical Shield Manipulation

seriously, it makes no difference for Active Tanks and it actually makes Passive shieldtanks worse since you're ever so slightly more likely to go below peak recharge instead of taking a small dent to the armour.

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Don't forget that for 3 years, when you got it to level 5, it broke and did absolutely nothing.

Posted - 2008.02.19 02:19:00 - [10]

 

Edited by: Esmenet on 19/02/2008 02:27:17

Originally by: Rawr Cristina

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Tactical Shield Manipulation

seriously, it makes no difference for Active Tanks and it actually makes Passive shieldtanks worse since you're ever so slightly more likely to go below peak recharge instead of taking a small dent to the armour.

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No it does not. You dont understand how it works.
The bleed through comes in addition to shield damage.

Posted - 2008.02.19 03:19:00 - [12]

 

Originally by: Esmenet

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No it does not. You dont understand how it works.
The bleed through comes in addition to shield damage.

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Definately didn't used to work like that , must be a recent change.
Bleed-through was never additional damage the last time I really played this game (a good 8 months by now), simply a case of your shieids not taking the full brunt of the dmg and letting a little slip through. It really isn't enough to make a difference though, not like when I played pre-Exodus anyway (where ships would often pop with small amounts of armour and shield left because of the sheer amount of bleedthrough that happened back then)

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The idea is that if you are tanking shields you most likely have higher resistances there and a hit taken in armor would be more damaging.

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The point was, if you were Passive Tanking and your Shield Tank was only just on the verge of failure (30% ish) then having a small fraction of the DPS hitting you being diverted to your armour could stop you from going below the critical Peak Recharge rate of your shields. And trust me, losing a little armour was a million times more preferable to losing your Shield Regen, as the latter was frequently related to certain death

Again, though, if the mechanics of TSM have indeed been changed then this is no longer the case and there is no longer any advantage in having it untrained.

Posted - 2008.02.19 05:58:00 - [14]

 

Originally by: Rawr Cristina

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The point was, if you were Passive Tanking and your Shield Tank was only just on the verge of failure (30% ish) then having a small fraction of the DPS hitting you being diverted to your armour could stop you from going below the critical Peak Recharge rate of your shields. And trust me, losing a little armour was a million times more preferable to losing your Shield Regen, as the latter was frequently related to certain death

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There is NO shield bleedthrough at 30%, regardless of what level of TSM you have trained.

Shield bleedthrough doesn't start until 25%, by which point you are already dropping well below your peak recharge. If your passive shield tank didn't hold at 30%, it will be going down so fast at this point that bleedthrough will not gain you any noticable recharge. If you kill off enough incoming damage or warp out before your shields fail, then you will be better off if there was no damage done to your armour at all.

Posted - 2008.02.19 06:12:00 - [16]

 

Originally by: Scrutt5

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Fast Talk.

Most usless skill since it has never worked to my knowledge.

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aaah, I training it up... seems to do something... a little but something

BTW, Interdictors is a useless skill because heavy dictor pilots dont need to be able to fly regular dictors

Posted - 2008.02.19 09:07:00 - [18]

 

Caldari Industrial

Posted - 2008.02.19 09:47:00 - [20]

 

caldari industrial gets you to charons - biggest hauler in game...

Posted - 2008.02.19 10:10:00 - [22]

 

Defender missiles?

Posted - 2008.02.19 10:30:00 - [24]

 

Edited by: Agil TradeAlt on 19/02/2008 10:30:05
Those connection skills group for agents standing


You train them but relise they have the same effect as diplomacy and thus do not stack on top of diplomacy so you cannot use -5 agents ever, meaning you wasted time training up social skills.

Posted - 2008.02.19 11:19:00 - [26]

 

Isn't Covert Ops reason enough?

Posted - 2008.02.19 11:50:00 - [28]

 

Advanced Space Ship Command

useless skill.

andon Caldari BB5. I try to warn people, but they don't listin. . .

Posted - 2008.02.19 12:42:00 - [30]

 

Originally by: ZerKar

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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker

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Caldari Industrial

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No Caldari Industrail is great, it is Caldari Battleship that is the worthless Caldari Skill.

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Thanks to the worthless Caldari Battleship you can fly:
1. Great sniper.
2. Great close range pwnager.
3. Or great PvE ship
4. Great EW ship.

Four diffrent ships with just one skill, and that's before the CNR, tech 2 or capitals.
Show me another battleship skill which gives that much.