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Wim'sei
Gallente
Semitic Sciences
Posted - 2008.02.09 09:59:00 - [31]
 

You and BoBs diplomat should really be talking ps post logs.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2008.02.09 10:40:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: DaiTengu
OH GOD GUYS OUR ALLIES ARE BUYING INTO BOB'S PROPAGANDA! WE ARE DOOMED!


Why propaganda?

DMC is dead, killed by RA/xDeath. KOS is dead, killed by AAA.

After the BoB war is over, who comes next? MC/Tortuga? I guess so. Or a cleanup in the drone regions? Probably both.

Lavrenti Radimir
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.02.09 11:02:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
After the BoB war is over, who comes next? MC/Tortuga? I guess so. Or a cleanup in the drone regions? Probably both.


Odds on it will be a checkbox poll.

Cippalippus Primus
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.02.09 11:21:00 - [34]
 

Man, I have lobbied for so long for setting Kos red... Sad

Guardian Angell
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.02.09 11:25:00 - [35]
 

Who is KOS?!
And why is this guy so stressed up? There's a massage service in Jita m8. Take 2 hours strait and you'll feel better.

Glenda Giggles
Minmatar
Red Ballz
Posted - 2008.02.09 11:31:00 - [36]
 



Pimp Dog

Do you have any idea what the recruiters in game were saying to those in channel so that they would join corps in your alliance? It was standard to be told you were not in a war and lived in safe easy to farm space. The result is that you Alliance got filled with pilots not wanting to PvP but rather to just get easy access to rats and minerals that did not exist in Empire.

Also, you need to get it straight that Goons are a part of the RSF and that the other Alliances UNL TCF RA GOON are all independent and maintian their own SOV.

It was already been mentioned in this thread that the key reason of escalation by AAA from raiding to invasion was due to how your diplomates handled the situation.

Peace

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2008.02.09 12:00:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: GusHobbleton
goons need to regain their purity and sense of purpose...




We don't have that much time....

Laughing


Spike Spiegle
Caldari
Thundercats
Posted - 2008.02.09 12:29:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: pimp dog
I think the only reason goons want bob dead is so the can take bobs place. if it wasn't for ra, tcf and aaa attacking bob to then goons wouldn't have a chance against them. i just love how it takes 6-7 different alliances working together to try to kill 1 alliance and they are still holding strong to what they have and there numbers havn't droped once. and the on'y reason goons and iac kept kos blue is so they can say "we kept them blue till the end" witch in fact goons was going behind everyones backs and tell people to attack kos. in my own thoughts goons are a bunch of back stabbers that will be killed off like all of the other big alliances in this game. and that goes for iac, ra, venom, tcf and all the other so called big bad alliances trying to kill 1 alliances and it still hasn't happeed yet.


I hate all these posts of Everyone v BOB and BOB have lasted more than a year solo

You all seam to completely forget the following;

1. Bob have only been deffending there space solo (they still have some allies) for a month or two.

2. Before this the BOB allies were under sustained attack and tbh put up more of a fight (grtz fix and Co.)

3. Most of what Bob have achieved (killing D2, removing RzR from Tenal, attacking IAC) was done mainly by MC & Co.

4. It takes along time to clear 3 regions of POS especially when most are packed with stront, fitted with Cyno Jammers and it also takes 7 days for sov to flip.

But hey BOB are great and it takes the whole of eve to kill them....Rolling Eyes


Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2008.02.09 13:12:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Spike Spiegle

I hate all these posts of Everyone v BOB and BOB have lasted more than a year solo

You all seam to completely forget the following;

1. Bob have only been deffending there space solo (they still have some allies) for a month or two.

But hey BOB are great and it takes the whole of eve to kill them....Rolling Eyes




Hmm, and how long did it take MC to kill D2 and wipe them out of existance? And how much did Razor help there?

It took only a few hundred dedicated people to kill the mighty D2 (plus allies). MM and Razor couldn't or didn't want to stop MC killing D2, not to mention Iron who fled to drone regions before any bigger fights and disbanded their allies.

I wonder how long Razor would have stood and how fast they would have crumbled under the assault of 3/4 eve now.

You can say what you want, but I think BoB is doing a great job. Sure they are loosing, everything else would be somehow strange.

But think what you and your alliance would do under such circumstances. Would you still fight? Would you have disbanded? Would you have retreated to try to defend the core against all hope?

So before yelling how sh*** BoB is, look at the facts. And facts is that not a single alliance can beat BoB at the moment. Actually even the big RSF can't, that's why they need not only the whole north (except TRI) but additionally MC also.

LOL

Sirius A
Caldari
StarFleet Enterprises
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.02.09 13:29:00 - [40]
 

This may not be the best time to pick a fight...you may get what you ask for

Khorian
Gallente
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.02.09 13:33:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Sirius A
This may not be the best time to pick a fight...you may get what you ask for


Would this fight include just goonswarm or the other homies as well? Because if it were just goonswarm I doubt anyone would consider this a threat :)

Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.02.09 13:35:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 09/02/2008 13:35:33
Originally by: Gnulpie
...stuff...


What BOB have been doing is running from fights abandoning systems and only fighting when they have
(a) at least 50% odds. Preferably with carriers

(b) Cynojammers. Once they go down they flee.

(c) They are sitting 150km off gates with a massive sniping bs blob. Preferably with carriers.

(d) the other side is obviously lagged out and cannot shoot back

I will admit they are successfully defending systems that are not coming under attack yet because one side is working to a schedule. Every other situation they absaloutly will not fight.

But they are really successful in losing regions.

Cippalippus Primus
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.02.09 13:37:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Khorian
Originally by: Sirius A
This may not be the best time to pick a fight...you may get what you ask for


Would this fight include just goonswarm or the other homies as well? Because if it were just goonswarm I doubt anyone would consider this a threat :)


Says the guy in Executive Outcomes...

Kusotarre
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.02.09 13:38:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Kusotarre on 09/02/2008 13:38:03
I was hoping for some Good Fights in Delve, but right now we are killing some towers in J-LP, one of the station systems in a sov 4 constellation, and there isn't a single hostile in local out of less than 70 people.

And the cynoja^H^H^H^H^H Good-fights-generator is online, even.

WTC?

Harbaen
Amarr
Neo Spartans
Posted - 2008.02.09 14:41:00 - [45]
 

Tho i agree with some things said in the OP, it's just to funny to see a KOS member talking trash about Goonswarm, when not so long ago KOS were one of those alliances that jumped on the bandwagon to attack BoB.
Now it would seem to me that because Goonswarm didnt step in and help KOS when AAA attacked them, certain members suddenly feel the need to talk trash about Goonswarm.
Now i wont go into my thoughts on this whole NAP train against BoB, but please, dont come crying on CAOD just because -A- took away your toys, and then turn around and have the cheek to point fingers at goonswarm, RA, TCF etc and accuse them of backstabbing and needing most of eve to take down BoB, when your own alliance was happy to be part of it when it suited them.

BoB Peon
Caldari
Stop Posting on COAD You Tards
Posted - 2008.02.09 14:57:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: pimp dog
I think the only reason goons want bob dead is so the can take bobs place. if it wasn't for ra, tcf and aaa attacking bob to then goons wouldn't have a chance against them. i just love how it takes 6-7 different alliances working together to try to kill 1 alliance and they are still holding strong to what they have and there numbers havn't droped once. and the on'y reason goons and iac kept kos blue is so they can say "we kept them blue till the end" witch in fact goons was going behind everyones backs and tell people to attack kos. in my own thoughts goons are a bunch of back stabbers that will be killed off like all of the other big alliances in this game. and that goes for iac, ra, venom, tcf and all the other so called big bad alliances trying to kill 1 alliances and it still hasn't happeed yet.


We still don't want you back. Go dive on an enemy sword, or something useful for a change.

phillie blunt
Caldari
Live And Let Die
Posted - 2008.02.09 15:01:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Spike Spiegle

I hate all these posts of Everyone v BOB and BOB have lasted more than a year solo

You all seam to completely forget the following;

1. Bob have only been deffending there space solo (they still have some allies) for a month or two.

But hey BOB are great and it takes the whole of eve to kill them....Rolling Eyes




Hmm, and how long did it take MC to kill D2 and wipe them out of existance? And how much did Razor help there?

It took only a few hundred dedicated people to kill the mighty D2 (plus allies). MM and Razor couldn't or didn't want to stop MC killing D2, not to mention Iron who fled to drone regions before any bigger fights and disbanded their allies.

I wonder how long Razor would have stood and how fast they would have crumbled under the assault of 3/4 eve now.

You can say what you want, but I think BoB is doing a great job. Sure they are loosing, everything else would be somehow strange.

But think what you and your alliance would do under such circumstances. Would you still fight? Would you have disbanded? Would you have retreated to try to defend the core against all hope?

So before yelling how sh*** BoB is, look at the facts. And facts is that not a single alliance can beat BoB at the moment. Actually even the big RSF can't, that's why they need not only the whole north (except TRI) but additionally MC also.

LOL


w0rd!

BoB Peon
Caldari
Stop Posting on COAD You Tards
Posted - 2008.02.09 15:01:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Himo Amasacia
What BOB have been doing is running from fights abandoning systems and only fighting when they have
Stuff...



How would you fight the superblob if the tables were turned?

Seraphax
Caldari
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.02.09 15:34:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 09/02/2008 13:35:33
Originally by: Gnulpie
...stuff...


What BOB have been doing is running from fights abandoning systems and only fighting when they have
(a) at least 50% odds. Preferably with carriers

(b) Cynojammers. Once they go down they flee.

(c) They are sitting 150km off gates with a massive sniping bs blob. Preferably with carriers.

(d) the other side is obviously lagged out and cannot shoot back

I will admit they are successfully defending systems that are not coming under attack yet because one side is working to a schedule. Every other situation they absaloutly will not fight.

But they are really successful in losing regions.


Running from fights, just like you guys did this morning in z3v?Rolling Eyes

Ismern
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.02.09 15:53:00 - [50]
 

I'm pretty sure GoonSwarm would have kept KOS blue . . .


You know, if there weren't over a hundred diplomatic incidents involving the several hundred isk farmers in the alliance.

Rochel Hakiri
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.02.09 15:59:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: pimp dog
iac set us back to blue because goons yelled at you? whats that saying? if you don't do what goons want then they will set you red and shoot you too? that makes u a goon pet then right?


yups, you gotta love our beeloved goonish overlords

don't worry you can't actually die in this game Razz

Berrik Radhok
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.02.09 16:16:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 09/02/2008 16:18:22
we should seriously move all of KOS into a corp titled Goòkfleet [G00K] and then tax the hell out of it after the war is over

Zorlag
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.02.09 16:26:00 - [53]
 

maaaaaaaaaan, lots of big words in this thread from Executive Outcomes

you'd almost think they weren't bitter because we ground them into the dirt a few months back

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2008.02.09 16:35:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Zorlag
maaaaaaaaaan, lots of big words in this thread from Executive Outcomes

you'd almost think they weren't bitter because we ground them into the dirt a few months back



Laughing


Tea Spoon
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.02.09 16:45:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Zorlag
maaaaaaaaaan, lots of big words in this thread from Executive Outcomes




The spirit of EXE was felt in J-L today as some BoB towers were stolen.

Peoke
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.02.09 16:54:00 - [56]
 

well when bob loses delve they wont die. the coalitions egos will start a new war pretty soon after and it will last for a while all the time bob retakes its space and settles old debts. its the same as every war before and every war after. only diff is the smack this time is the worse ever. But yah im sure tyrax you have sacks coalition blue cause you can take us alone or is it because if you fought us now you wouldnt even have catch. im not blind to the future and i know we all have grudges to settle. Major diff is while the grudges are being settled bob will take back what they lost and more.

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.02.09 17:01:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: pimp dog
I think the only reason goons want bob dead is so the can take bobs place. if it wasn't for ra, tcf and aaa attacking bob to then goons wouldn't have a chance against them. i just love how it takes 6-7 different alliances working together to try to kill 1 alliance and they are still holding strong to what they have and there numbers havn't droped once. and the on'y reason goons and iac kept kos blue is so they can say "we kept them blue till the end" witch in fact goons was going behind everyones backs and tell people to attack kos. in my own thoughts goons are a bunch of back stabbers that will be killed off like all of the other big alliances in this game. and that goes for iac, ra, venom, tcf and all the other so called big bad alliances trying to kill 1 alliances and it still hasn't happeed yet.


havent checked with vile rat yet but did we set you neutral or something and if not is this post an alliance-level request for neutral standings or what? vOv

Sgt Napalm
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.02.09 17:30:00 - [58]
 

More GoonSpam needed

Giant Diablo
Caldari
0utbreak
Posted - 2008.02.09 18:00:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Jogyn
I dont really understand what this thread is about tbh :S But I think pretty much everyone can agree on the fact that BOB would pwn any alliance in in a alliance 1v1, but we also all know that eve isnt about that.
I dont think anyone has hold out aslong as bob has, lost ****load of stations and still fighting and everyone not blinded by hatred against em will give em credits for that.
Thinking about it I guess RA did fight as hard when they had LV + mates against them, but still, Bob is doing a damn good job.
This doesnt mean i dont want em dead, think it will be nice to see what happends if they die, but this constant bob smacking/whining is getting a bit annoying.



Good post ...totaly agree

onymous
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.02.09 18:05:00 - [60]
 

As someone pointed out on the goonfleet forums, the price of isk from isk sellers has been skyrocketing ( http://sparter.com/web/shop.jsp#market=EVE01G&quantity=500000000 ) Apparently the 'good gamer guarantee' ones used to be 25$ for 500m a month ago.

no doubt this totally coincidental fact has nothing to do with the following:

http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=KOS


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