Posted - 2008.01.14 08:42:00 - [2]

 

Yeah, I've seen this idea proposed in lots of different formats plenty of times before.

Generally, you'll get some people agreeing, some suggesting no extra fees but a slower rate of training for alts, you'll get outright abuse for suggesting that players with more real world money gain an advantage in game and you'll get people crapping on about how it means you don't have to rely on other players because you can have an alt specialising in all fields.

I think it'd be a good idea to allow all characters to learn skills at no extra cost because of the fairly diverse set of skills that are emerging.

As an example, I might actually enjoy getting my hands on an exhumer and heading to null sec for some mining. But I cbf'd spending the 100 odd days of training it'll take me to be really effective at it just to "see if I like it".

The biggest problem with it is that through the years lots of players have paid for and continue to pay for extra accounts so that they could have multiple characters training at once.

Those players will be annoyed and CCP will see it from a financial perspective. ie: Given that it's a time based subscription, why allow players to play more of the game at a faster rate?

Posted - 2008.01.14 15:41:00 - [4]

 

Edited by: Lothris Andastar on 14/01/2008 15:41:49
GUESS WHAT ITS ALREADY HERE!

ONLY $15 A MONTH!

Posted - 2008.01.14 16:04:00 - [6]

 

Sure, but the idea of say, paying $3-5 extra to have normal training on a second character in an account would both make CCP more money, and would certainly balance out the game. It's hard enough for new players to get started, even with 800 mill or so SP, and this would give newer players a slight edge so that old vets don't continually dominate the game.

Posted - 2008.01.14 21:36:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Ellaine TashMurkon

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More like 11-13$ I think, only slightly below second account cost. Otherwise, it will be massively used to "breed" characters for character trade or future use. Everyone and his dog will train a secondary empire mission/capital pilot/science+industry/trade+freighter char and after a year, move it to a second account.

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Yeah that's about the thought, to get more diversity in the game for people, more possibilities for newcomers AND more dough for CCP.

When quickly thought over, the rule of evolution would likely fix up too much breeding;)

-Tiodus

Posted - 2008.01.15 00:27:00 - [10]

 

Originally by: Ellaine TashMurkon

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More like 11-13$

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At that price I would prefer to have 6 characters on my account and allow two to train at any one time, or 9 characters on my account and allow 3 to train etc.

I've thought about having extra accounts, but if I have to pay another "account setup fee" when I already have an account then I consider that to be little more than disgusting, money grabbing, corporate greed.

Posted - 2008.01.15 02:37:00 - [12]

 

I didn't complain, so please stop misconstruing words. I simply said that newer players are still far behind. Even if an older player started with 750,000 SP less than me, they now have 20-30 million more than me. This would be a small step toward shifting the balance towards more even. Now, if you think vets should have as much of an advantage as they again, that's your opinion. But please consider the point of view of who is speaking before you start accusing people of things.

Posted - 2008.01.15 04:29:00 - [14]

 

Edited by: Kever Shigenaga on 15/01/2008 04:30:01
Okay okay... my bad. meh I just recently came across a new player ingame who profusely complained about it, and this one pinged me. But just to clarify older character don't have 20-30mil more sp than you (thats a bit much), I have a friend who's got 12mil about and he's a half year older than me. So yeah I got a bit preachy, and ****ish, but still you guys are pretty lucky to be able to get in a pretty good simple combat ship and hit it off pretty quickly. Anyway, at this point I take my leave.

Posted - 2008.01.15 21:48:00 - [16]

 

Originally by: Kever Shigenaga

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Edited by: Kever Shigenaga on 15/01/2008 04:30:01
Okay okay... my bad. meh I just recently came across a new player ingame who profusely complained about it, and this one pinged me. But just to clarify older character don't have 20-30mil more sp than you (thats a bit much), I have a friend who's got 12mil about and he's a half year older than me. So yeah I got a bit preachy, and ****ish, but still you guys are pretty lucky to be able to get in a pretty good simple combat ship and hit it off pretty quickly. Anyway, at this point I take my leave.

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One of my friends that started the game when it came out now has 35 million, and that's with taking about two-odd years off. That's 30 million more than me.

Posted - 2008.01.16 08:16:00 - [18]

 

Ok, between 20 and 30 years depending on character.

I guess a good point to make is that there is probably about 10 years of training for a character that doesn't crosstrain other races.

If you spread that out between 3 characters (ie all training simulataneously) you'd have about 4 years worth for each character, as there'd be some overlap that all characters trained.

So it's probably not unfair in that regard to allow multiple characters to train at once.