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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari
Subordination
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:34:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 01/01/2008 20:34:07
Bah, nvm.

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:37:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Jimer Lins
Originally by: Xaen
Originally by: Paper
Rock is fine, nerf scissors.



No, just boost paper.


I never liked paper. It just isn't a realistic choice against a rock.

Jonny JoJo
Amarr
The Imperial Guards
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:42:00 - [33]
 

Hold on

Just re-dec the corp. Even if they try to join imune again, you can still shoot them, and nothing is worse for a carebear corp that has to spend all its time in imune with its dozens of wardecs

Galsia Yovinda
Gallente
Dec Me Please
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:43:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Hold on

Just re-dec the corp. Even if they try to join imune again, you can still shoot them, and nothing is worse for a carebear corp that has to spend all its time in imune with its dozens of wardecs



Too simple and costs isk


CN 573
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:48:00 - [35]
 

This is hilarious. I love seeing bullies cry.

Iria Ahrens
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:05:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Ehranavaar


the wars can happen because someone bribed the concord officials to look the other way. what eve needs is a mechanic to let the war decced party to bribe the officials to pay attention again. after that let the highest bidder prevail.


This highly appeals to my sense of corruption in Eve.

Jonny JoJo
Amarr
The Imperial Guards
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:06:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Galsia Yovinda
Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Hold on

Just re-dec the corp. Even if they try to join imune again, you can still shoot them, and nothing is worse for a carebear corp that has to spend all its time in imune with its dozens of wardecs



Too simple and costs isk




Thats the point of a wardec is it not? Just keep decing the corp and they will be stuck in imune with its 20 wars.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:27:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo

Thats the point of a wardec is it not? Just keep decing the corp and they will be stuck in imune with its 20 wars.


Does this actually work though? I think it actually works like this:

Mercs war dec Carebears
24 hours of "prep time"
Carebears join iMune
Carebears leave iMune
War is transferred to iMune
Mercs are at war with iMune
Mercs are not at war with Carebears

-- Mercs can now fight iMune

Mercs war dec Carebears
Carebears join iMune
Carebears leave iMune
New war is transferred to iMune
Mercs are not at war with Carebears

-- Mercs can now only fight Carebears for the 24 hours until the original war cancels.

So in the end, even if you keep wardec'ing them, you'd only gain every second or third day to shoot them.

-Liang

GM Nova

Posted - 2008.01.01 21:35:00 - [39]
 

This is cheating, plain and simple. CEOs exploiting this loophole will receive a warning from now on.

GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support

GM Nova

Posted - 2008.01.01 21:44:00 - [40]
 

What the hell???


Gaven Blands
Caldari
Cosmic Fusion
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:44:00 - [41]
 

Owned. Thank god the st00pid is over.

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:45:00 - [42]
 

I love you GM nova Embarassed

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:45:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: GM Nova
What the hell???




OK, now I'm scared.


Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:45:00 - [44]
 

Love ya Nova <3

Kransthow
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:48:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: GM Nova
What the hell???


QFT

Empyre
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2008.01.01 21:55:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Kransthow
Originally by: GM Nova
What the hell???


QFT


yeah i know. privateers got months of coming and going in wars at their leisure before any stance was taken and changes made.

i'll repost my questions from the iMune thread:

Originally by: Empyre
why allow pos in hi-sec at all? it sounds to me like people are wanting to bring pvp as a function of capitalization into hi-sec. if this is the case then ccp should come clear with the actual intentions for hi-sec altogether. you can't have it both ways. if its meant to be a buffer for new players to have a relative safe haven then pvpers need to start respecting this.

on the other hand, if their intention was to allow and condone complete capitalization and the use of force to remove competition completely and entirely from the game then they need to stop playing around trying to please both sides as well. either allow full utilization of pos in hi-sec (minus sov) or take them and moons completely out of hi-sec because they're worthless.


Scott Ryder
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:00:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: GM Nova
What the hell???




Reported for profanity :o

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:06:00 - [48]
 

I think they said what the hell because their signature was doubled?

Juliux Novi
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:07:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Juliux Novi on 01/01/2008 22:08:59
my 2 isk on this situation...

I am an old player returning after several years break, so I must first state that I know almost zero about "privateers" corp.

I have been reading the imune threads to keep up since it's semi-interesting and can effect many of us.

I can't say I really support this, it does not fit my style of play. But thats just me, and everyone enjoys different things.

However! CCP is only to blame here. From what I can tell, the imune guys started this when it happened to them. They petitioned the GMs, and the GM replied with "working as intended" or something... Probably feeling screwed over by CCP, these guys are simply having a little fun and/or revenge :) Deep down I hope they are doing this to open CCP's eyes, and not just to cause grief.

So, to sum it up, its not an exploit, Imune pre-petitioned this before they went public. If anything, we should be directing our frustrations to the Devs to bring about change within the war dec system.

Thanks for reading and Happy New Year


EDIT: I didn't see GM Nova's post before I made my posting, does this mean the Imune thing is finally over?

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:12:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: steveid on 01/01/2008 22:16:29
this was pre petitioned so I'll be interested to see how this turns out.

as for the is this over post, i would imagine it is. We'll be re petitioning to get clarification but tbh it dont look good. Funny thing is this kinda stuff is done all the time with people dropping to noob corps and corps leaving alliances. What they need to do is allow killrights on anyone leaving a corp or alliance for the full 7 days of the war, then its problem solved. What they look to be doing is propping up a broken system with disciplinary action.

Windjammer
Gallente
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:16:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: GM Nova
This is cheating, plain and simple. CEOs exploiting this loophole will receive a warning from now on.

GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support


A great pity that ganking ships in Jita and other high sec places is not afforded the same attention. However, I think everyone was expecting a comment of this sort from a GM or other CCP representative.

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:16:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: steveid
this was pre petitioned so I'll be interested to see how this turns out.


GM Nova is a Senior GM. Unless he or she is countermanded by someone higher up the food chain, I'd say you're hosed.


Empyre
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:17:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: steveid
this was pre petitioned so I'll be interested to see how this turns out.


that just makes it interesting then. so which gm will lose their job? one of them seems to be making it up as they go if the petition result said the opposite.

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:17:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Windjammer
Originally by: GM Nova
This is cheating, plain and simple. CEOs exploiting this loophole will receive a warning from now on.

GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support


A great pity that ganking ships in Jita and other high sec places is not afforded the same attention. However, I think everyone was expecting a comment of this sort from a GM or other CCP representative.


Ganking ships in Jita and other high sec areas is totally allowed, as long as you don't avoid the consequence (loss of your ship to CONCORD, loss of sec status). That's been status quo for years now.

steveid
Viziam
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:19:00 - [55]
 

well if your reading GM Nova, could you take a look at this as the alliance leaders pre - petitioned and went to some trouble and expense based upon that supposed knowledge. I'd just like clarification based upon the facts rather than the op.

Wyliee
Taurus Inc
THE KLINGONS
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:20:00 - [56]
 

it now seems we have upset imune - they have stated that they will contact every corp we ever war deck, and offer them the get out of jail free card.

basicly wreaking our ability as a corp to do merc work in high sec.

this leaves us with only a few choices.

1. not bother war deckin anyone ever again.
2. war deck random corps and use there arangement with imune to go after imune's core management (which i expect are a bunch of ***gie alts).
3. petition them for game exploitation and harrasment.
4. cry.

i think it wil be a combination of 2 and 3, but it is far from ideal.

Wyliee
Taurus Inc
THE KLINGONS
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:23:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Wyliee on 01/01/2008 22:23:20
Originally by: GM Nova
This is cheating, plain and simple. CEOs exploiting this loophole will receive a warning from now on.

GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support

you might wanna get rid of this thread then?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=665774

Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:25:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: steveid
well if your reading GM Nova, could you take a look at this as the alliance leaders pre - petitioned and went to some trouble and expense based upon that supposed knowledge. I'd just like clarification based upon the facts rather than the op.


Originally by: Ashley Sky
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but we pre-petitioned this and were told by a bug hunter that this is an intended feature.


Originally by: Ashley Sky
bug hunter


Empyre
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:27:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Empyre on 01/01/2008 22:28:52
Originally by: Wyliee
it now seems we have upset imune - they have stated that they will contact every corp we ever war deck, and offer them the get out of jail free card.

basicly wreaking our ability as a corp to do merc work in high sec.

this leaves us with only a few choices.

1. not bother war deckin anyone ever again.
2. war deck random corps and use there arangement with imune to go after imune's core management (which i expect are a bunch of ***gie alts).
3. petition them for game exploitation and harrasment.
4. cry.

i think it wil be a combination of 2 and 3, but it is far from ideal.


by calling them ***gie alts it kind of seems like you're doing #4 right now. and as for #2, that sounds like using another game mechanic to get at those that used another game mechanic against you, hey!


(ps bug hunters don't count.. might have lost this one iMune) Sad

Kharadran Sullath
Caldari
Subordination
Posted - 2008.01.01 22:56:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: GM Nova
This is cheating, plain and simple. CEOs exploiting this loophole will receive a warning from now on.

GM Nova
Senior Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support


I salute thee, fair GM. Cheers!


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