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Topic |
Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2007.11.18 23:50:00 - [ 1]
With the advent of Ambulation and more specifically the ability to do things such as design clothing and hairstyles, how will individuals protect their intellectual property such as specific clothing designs? After all, if someone spends much time and effort creating an interesting design, they wouldn't want the first person who sees it to take a screenshot and then release the same thing at a cheaper rate. Devs, if you have any ideas on this please feel free to let me know.  |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:54:00 - [ 2]
Thinking of a career in fashion design there?  I suppose the designs can and will be stolen just like everything else in Eve  |
syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:55:00 - [ 3]
You wont see unique designs in Eve, because it would require some content screeners & opens a large can of worms.
Why would they let you own IP using their IP ? Games Development is all about the IP, without it, your just another Korean MMO. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:56:00 - [ 4]
I don't know tarminic that's hoping too much I think.
it seems to me that the modifications you can make to clothing will be stuff like, add the pre-made sliver lining to the pre-made pants in one of the pants low slots. thus it would in the end really be all of CCPs stuff.
unless you mean player one is the first to combine these 4 elements into a shirt, thus is another player makes the same thing after that player he has to pay the original intellectual property?
maybe I'm confused :P
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Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2007.11.19 00:01:00 - [ 5]
Possibly, but with a few relatively simple tools you can actually create a wide variety of designs (which would be consistent with CCP's approach anyway). Even a simple text editor that allows you to place a single sentence on a shirt could lead to hundreds of different individual designs.
I think that if CCP wants there to be a flourishing business in Ambulation, they'll include these features. I could be wrong though. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:04:00 - [ 6]
Make me some parachute pants  |
SoftRevolution |
Posted - 2007.11.19 00:11:00 - [ 7]
 Originally by: syphurous
You wont see unique designs in Eve, because it would require some content screeners & opens a large can of worms.
Why would they let you own IP using their IP ? Games Development is all about the IP, without it, your just another Korean MMO.
Does that mean I won't be getting assless chaps? :( |
syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:14:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Tarminic
Possibly, but with a few relatively simple tools you can actually create a wide variety of designs (which would be consistent with CCP's approach anyway). Even a simple text editor that allows you to place a single sentence on a shirt could lead to hundreds of different individual designs.
I think that if CCP wants there to be a flourishing business in Ambulation, they'll include these features. I could be wrong though.
A perminat item attribute of "made by Tarminic" in the info, I think would be the closest thing you'd get. If you could actually put anytext you want on the clothes imagine how many people will be walking round with "FLICK". They may also come into issues with people writing "NIKE" and 'REBOK SUX LULZ" etc. |
Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2007.11.19 00:16:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: syphurous
Originally by: Tarminic
Possibly, but with a few relatively simple tools you can actually create a wide variety of designs (which would be consistent with CCP's approach anyway). Even a simple text editor that allows you to place a single sentence on a shirt could lead to hundreds of different individual designs.
I think that if CCP wants there to be a flourishing business in Ambulation, they'll include these features. I could be wrong though.
A perminat item attribute of "made by Tarminic" in the info, I think would be the closest thing you'd get. If you could actually put anytext you want on the clothes imagine how many people will be walking round with "FLICK". They may also come into issues with people writing "NIKE" and 'REBOK SUX LULZ" etc.
True, but technically the same thing can happen in any field where the user can enter text, such as ship names, cans, and station names. I assume the same policy would be used. |
Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:17:00 - [ 10]
IIUC from the Fanfest presentation;
The clothes that you'll see in ambulation won't be designed by players. They will be a limited set for selection dependent upon your character race. So you can mix-'n'-match, but you won't be designing them.
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Ilvan
Gallente
Post with your Brain
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:39:00 - [ 11]
Clothes? Where we're going, we don't need clothes.  |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:43:00 - [ 12]
Pfft, clothes.
I want to be able to sell capital ship guns in an ambulation shop. With a firing range to demonstrate them. And hookers to entice the customers.
In fact, forget the guns and the firing range. |
sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:53:00 - [ 13]
I don't think we can design clothing ect
but I hope we can, but a big barrelof fish to openif its possible due to copyright laws. |
Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:54:00 - [ 14]
I just want a seedy low sec strip bar to frequent with well rendered and animated nubile young minmater slave women dancing on the tables (think high rez DOA..  ) and some funky GFX effect to simulate the various drugs/alchohol I can virtually use.. Is that too much to ask?! Is it?! |
Captain Narmio
Blue Republic |
Posted - 2007.11.19 01:49:00 - [ 15]
Edited by: Captain Narmio on 19/11/2007 01:50:02 Quote:
add the pre-made sliver lining to the pre-made pants in one of the pants low slots
Stuff pants, I'm gonna need all the low slots for a nano fit. |
Sarah McTeef |
Posted - 2007.11.19 01:56:00 - [ 16]
Personally I hope they don't acknowledge any IP relating to player generated content with the use of their tools. Better yet force transfer of any rights from the 'creator' to CCP as a condition of use. The idea that people owned something in the game could be devastating to the gritty underworld that is Eve. People are already saying that in game theft is equivalent to real world theft on the boards, if they had even a modicum of actual right to 'their' objects things could get messy but quick.
Better that either the rights are transfered to CCP, or that CCP pre-generate all possible combinations and just allow players to 'discover them' or some such measure.
Of course take every thing in this post with a grain of salt, I'm not a lawyer. I'm sure CCP pays several very well to handle this kind of situation. |
Big Monkey
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.11.19 02:17:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Sarah McTeef
Personally I hope they don't acknowledge any IP relating to player generated content with the use of their tools. Better yet force transfer of any rights from the 'creator' to CCP as a condition of use. The idea that people owned something in the game could be devastating to the gritty underworld that is Eve. People are already saying that in game theft is equivalent to real world theft on the boards, if they had even a modicum of actual right to 'their' objects things could get messy but quick.
Better that either the rights are transfered to CCP, or that CCP pre-generate all possible combinations and just allow players to 'discover them' or some such measure.
Of course take every thing in this post with a grain of salt, I'm not a lawyer. I'm sure CCP pays several very well to handle this kind of situation.
Double-plusgood. This is not second life. |
F'nog
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.11.19 03:47:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: MotherMoon
I don't know tarminic that's hoping too much I think.
it seems to me that the modifications you can make to clothing will be stuff like, add the pre-made sliver lining to the pre-made pants in one of the pants low slots. thus it would in the end really be all of CCPs stuff.
What bonus can I get from not wearing pants, as God intended? |
Nikola Ikolian |
Posted - 2007.11.19 04:00:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Captain Narmio
Edited by: Captain Narmio on 19/11/2007 01:50:02
Quote:
add the pre-made sliver lining to the pre-made pants in one of the pants low slots
Stuff pants, I'm gonna need all the low slots for a nano fit.
MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's seriously the funniest thing I've read all day. There goes one fast streaker! |
Captain Agemman
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe |
Posted - 2007.11.19 04:50:00 - [ 20]
The modifications will be adjustments in the color scheme from what the fanfest videos tell us. This is to avoid us walking around in neon green/yellow, generally unwearable stuff and near total lack of clothes on female avatars. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.19 05:26:00 - [ 21]
Edited by: Akita T on 19/11/2007 05:28:26 Originally by: Captain Agemman
and near total lack of clothes on female avatars.
...and this would be bad because... ? I do hope Ambulation will be anatomically correct Just have the "station police" gently urge you to get some cloting on, and if you refuse repeatedly, they'd "ban" you from the station for a while. I like the whole "everything is possible, but it has consequences" thing. |
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