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Devian 666
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2007.11.17 06:00:00 - [ 61]
 Originally by: Synseer
Originally by: CCP Prism X
But surely you can understand that we need to have log confirmation to reimburse anything. Otherwise we'd have to reimburse everything and that wouldn't really work.
The best thing about this is that GMs dont actually log combat.
I petitioned my recent podkiling outside a station where I should have docked before I was dead.
I added up all the damage i took and it was less than the amount of hps I had on my pod. I shouldnt have died right? well GMs dont care about this as they tell me they didnt "log" it and they cant reimburse anything they didnt log.
WOW CCP what a good idea to solve the problem of annoying petitions, If you just dont log anything, nothing is provable so you can just spam everyone the same "we're sorry bull shi.t" message.
BTW, this much of a response took me roughly a month and a half to recieve.
The GMs and bugs in this game is its biggest turnoff
"Sorry our logs don't show anything." |
Stiches |
Posted - 2007.11.17 06:23:00 - [ 62]
Edited by: Stiches on 17/11/2007 06:26:27
threads like these is why i enjoy killing people in eve.
J.F.C ...
"can i have your stuff"
"you will not be missed"
"noob"
"haz stuff give plz"
give the man a rest, ffs. he played the game, didn't like it, he's moving. Sometimes i think people who choose to play hellokitty online are more mature than most of you lot. what are you? 12?
oh, and the man has a point, the reimbursement system blows goats nuggets. i got a raptor back, after losing it due to my own stupidity (i thought it wasn't my fault at the time) and a friend of mine didn't get his gist x cnr after losing it to a lag bug back when the servers had issues.
i seriously hope to see many of you whiners in game.
geh. |
Corwain |
Posted - 2007.11.17 06:36:00 - [ 63]
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kanojo1969
Blue Midget Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 06:46:00 - [ 64]
I would rather see Lylz stay in the game than just about any of the people who have replied, tbqfh.
Anyway, the point of me posting was to agree that the 'we have no logs' excuse is just about the lamest thing I've ever heard. I've lost dozens of ships to lag and bugs but never submitted a petition until one day I got ganked by some pirates who had camped a station with cans. I undocked, got stuck, they warped in with 5 or 6 BS and tanked the sentries for the 20 seconds it took to kill me.
Long story short - "We would give you your ship back because that's an exploit, but we can't tell because we don't have logs"
What in the wide wide world of sports is that supposed to mean? Am *I* supposed to keep logs? Do they actually log anything ever? Or do they just delete them 'cos disk space is soooooo expensive these days?
I didn't throw a tanty and threaten to leave. But I've spent a lot of time since then setting up a trader character so I can pay my accounts with ISK instead of RL money with about 5 minutes work a day.
Seriously, if they only keep logs for like 10 seconds, the very least they could do is have a 'keep a record of what just happened' button so players can flag certain loggings as perhaps being worth keeping.
GG CCP
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:16:00 - [ 65]
Originally by: kanojo1969
I've lost dozens of ships to lag and bugs but never submitted a petition until one day I got ganked by some pirates who had camped a station with cans.
Unfortunate that you got screwed but how can you say the system is fail if you only have one instance with which to judge it by? And why didn't you petition the dozens of other losses? |
Apocryphai
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:50:00 - [ 66]
Originally by: CCP Prism X
I wish I could pay you in kind and post the petitions you sent, but sadly that's not the way society swings.
You see I think this line is the giveaway to what's really happened here. I think what Prism X was hinting at there is that Lylz petitions were rude/demanding/abusive/told a different story to the one that's been painted in this thread. Wouldn't be the first time someone told porky pies about their interactions with GM's on the forums now, would it? |
Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2007.11.17 08:43:00 - [ 67]
Edited by: Disco Flint on 17/11/2007 08:44:27
What were you doing in that mission if your Myrmiddon can't even tank it for 45 seconds? And seriously, wouldn't you rather shoot the rats first with a tank that fragile before wandering off to loot?
And why try it again and again with the same approach that got you killed before and before?
Sounds to me like you either lagged or your pc froze for a bit, both problems not on the CCP end, both not verifiable by CCP. Would it be fairer if people got ships back they probably didnt even have in the first place just by whining loud enough? How could CCP know if they're lying or telling the truth if the logs show nothing? Would it be fair if only YOU got such a special treatment?
And be a bit nicer when you want something from people and you might just get a response that's not ... wait, you actually threatened the GM to leave EVE and reactivate your WoW account if your demands for a special, preferred and not at all fair service were not met? Oh damn that just made my day :D |
Wild Rho
Amarr
Silent Core |
Posted - 2007.11.17 08:46:00 - [ 68]
Originally by: Apocryphai
Originally by: CCP Prism X
I wish I could pay you in kind and post the petitions you sent, but sadly that's not the way society swings.
You see I think this line is the giveaway to what's really happened here.
I think what Prism X was hinting at there is that Lylz petitions were rude/demanding/abusive/told a different story to the one that's been painted in this thread. Wouldn't be the first time someone told porky pies about their interactions with GM's on the forums now, would it?
I was thinking pretty much the same thing, especially considering his attitude in the OP. |
Sicil Fioet
Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.11.17 09:21:00 - [ 69]
I really don't understand people who when seeing that something doesn't quite work go ahead and do that same thing second, third, and even fourth and fifth time. I think the most blatant case of this was a post I read long time ago made by some newbie who kept jumping in a cruiser into the same gate camp over and over again and then came to complain on forums about getting killed each time. There was also that guy in my old alliance who kept jumping into different 0.0 pipe systems without scouting or checking the map, and after ending up in a cloning vat he expressed his acute indignation on the matter in alliance chat on each occasion. Then there is this guy who flies exact same ship into the exact same mission where the ship didn't work and got promptly killed not just twice but three times. Whatever they are smoking when they do this must be some pretty potent stuff ...
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Lylz |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:11:00 - [ 70]
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 11:17:00 - [ 71]
Originally by: Lylz
the servers seemed to drop alot
Do we play the same game? |
Darken Two
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:21:00 - [ 72]
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Lylz |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:26:00 - [ 73]
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Lylz
the servers seemed to drop alot
Do we play the same game?
Maybe you dont play everyday, but the servers have been offline at least 5 times in the last couple of months.....mebbe you role play when that happens and have a space station built in your bedroom...? |
Sopha Serpentia
Core Dynamics
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Posted - 2007.11.17 11:26:00 - [ 74]
Originally by: Lylz
Nah I was fine with the GM, I just didint accept his BS theres nothing we can do line - The society swings thing was pure BS and misdirection, Id happily let them post the full conversation, Yes I was rude at the end of day 6 message 9 but heh, who wouldnt be, I mean 6 days or more to sort a minor issue out....the Gm's Blow.
Would you like some cheese with your whine? Rearrange the following sentence: stuff I? your have all can |
Dead3y3 |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:28:00 - [ 75]
Lylz, I think you have already stated you were leaving more than once in this thread.
Go already!? |
Lylz |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:44:00 - [ 76]
Originally by: Sopha Serpentia
Originally by: Lylz
Nah I was fine with the GM, I just didint accept his BS theres nothing we can do line - The society swings thing was pure BS and misdirection, Id happily let them post the full conversation, Yes I was rude at the end of day 6 message 9 but heh, who wouldnt be, I mean 6 days or more to sort a minor issue out....the Gm's Blow.
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
Rearrange the following sentence:
stuff I? your have all can
I love all these ex wow players who use the stuff they read on wow forums 4 years ago.... The can I have your stuff one...its so much funnier when your the 5th person in a thread to type it...lol u lame tard |
Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 11:45:00 - [ 77]
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Lylz |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:51:00 - [ 78]
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Darken Two
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2007.11.17 11:57:00 - [ 79]
Originally by: Lylz
Edited by: Lylz on 17/11/2007 11:52:28
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Lylz
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Lylz
the servers seemed to drop alot
Do we play the same game?
Maybe you dont play everyday, but the servers have been offline at least 5 times in the last couple of months.....mebbe you role play when that happens and have a space station built in your bedroom...?
You do know of the daily scheduled downtime, yes?
So your saying u r unaware Eve has been crashed out for hours at a time....Go back through the forums - read the messages titles - server down youll see what u evidently missed....or was that u being funny....lol good one
Listen mate. If it's sympathy you're looking for, you won't be getting any from anyone, so drop the posting and quit already. 1. You did something stupid and lost three ships. 2. You petitioned and they rejected your petition. 3. You were rude to them and tried to coerce them into doing what you wanted. Didn't work. 4. You posted petitions on the forum hoping for community support and sympathy. Didn't work. 5. You've posted repeatedly that you're quitting and yet you are still haunting this thread. You have lost and Darwin has won, accept it and move on. |
Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 12:00:00 - [ 80]
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Lylz |
Posted - 2007.11.17 12:07:00 - [ 81]
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 12:11:00 - [ 82]
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Lylz |
Posted - 2007.11.17 12:34:00 - [ 83]
Whatever....u r the expert |
Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 12:38:00 - [ 84]
Originally by: Lylz
Whatever....u r the expert
And you seem to be the idiot in this thread. |
Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2007.11.17 13:09:00 - [ 85]
Apparently we've gone from *snip* to *nuke*, well this makes me feel comfy. |
Red Panda
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.11.17 14:46:00 - [ 86]
Originally by: Last wow patch
Leveling Improvements
Many leveling improvements have been made for the old world.
o The amount of experience needed to gain a level has been decreased between levels 20 and 60. In addition, the amount of experience granted by quests has been increased between levels 30 and 60.
o Level 1-60 dungeon quests have had their experience and faction rewards increased.
o Many elite creatures and quests in the level 1-60 experience have been changed to accommodate solo play.
Have fun in easy mode  |
Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2007.11.17 14:52:00 - [ 87]
Originally by: Pitt Bull
Originally by: Neon Genesis
Only if you consider the advancement of your character's skill as advancement on the whole. This would be incorrect.
There are fewer skills required to dominate in EVE as say, any FPS game to date. I think its more to do with your SP and wallet size than anything else tbh.
Yeah, a lot of people think that. It's a regular and frequent source of amusement to see them crying on the forums that their eBay-fu doesn't make them as uber as they'd assumed. |
Lisento Slaven
The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2007.11.17 15:52:00 - [ 88]
Why did you go back there to loot your wreck with a myrmidon?
I would have bookmarked my wreck with my pod, fail the mission, then go back with a hauler. |
Stitcher
Caldari |
Posted - 2007.11.17 16:03:00 - [ 89]
facepalm.jpg |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.17 16:22:00 - [ 90]
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