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Topic |
CCP Gangleri
Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.11.16 11:58:00 - [ 1]
The new EVE Voice that we promised at Fanfest is just about ready, it is now in public testing and therefore all accounts have been voice enabled on Sisi. In order to connect to the correct voice server you need to have the shortcut for your Sisi client in this format: eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF /server:87.237.38.50If you have any issues with voice join the channel "help" which is my usual hangout on Singularity  ---- When we designed the new voice system we were aiming for ease of use and stability; what we have is a solid backbone that we can build upon with new features in future updates. I‘m going to list here the most notable features that are in the current release and walk through some of the ways they can be used. First of all, open the escape menu and take a look at the EVE Voice options under the audio tab. Here you can choose your push to talk button and set the microphones input volume as well as do an echo test with the Vivox server.There is also an option to automatically join fleet voice channels, more on that later. Now you can join audio on any user created channel, two user created channels actually. You choose which one is the current speaking channel by right clicking the channel tab. The fleet window has a new user interface for voice, when you are in a fleet you can see five slots for voice channels, right click them to join, left click to set as speaking channel. When you talk you can see the microphone icon that indicates what channel is your current speaking channel light up with a green color, you can also see the icon next to your name in chat channels turn red. The channels you are joined to have an indicator in their tab, the red one indicates the current speaking channel. When you create a fleet you can voice enable it through the fleet options (little white triangle, like the overview). When you do this all members of the fleet get a question box offering them to join fleet voice channels, this step can be avoided by using the escape menu option. Anyone that joins the fleet thereafter will also get this option. There is also a brand new feature for use in fleet situations, right click anyone in the fleet and add to your watchlist, this is specifically aimed at fleet management and logistics pilots. Fleet management (commanders) will be able to create a private channel with anyone in the watchlist for micromanagement of delicate situations without having to tell the whole fleet. Logistics pilots will find it nice to be able to add a group of pilots to their watchlist where they will see all broadcasts from these pilots and a status bar for their hitpoints as well. So, please go and try it out. Then come here and tell us what you think. |
Xeno Metamorph
Gallente
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.16 18:52:00 - [ 2]
I didnt add the entire of the suggested options to the shortcut and it seemed to work fine.  Quote:
eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF
I added anyway, in order to seperate my cache folder from my Sisi cache folder. Initial impressions are, its a very nice feature - although getting my head around the options and how it works without any formal documentation can be a bit hit and miss. But its just another one of those things that we will all get used to over time. Sound quality on it, is indeed top notch, its on par with Vent quality codec[s]. Which makes me worry a tad about the bandwidth usage; but I assume thats been looked at. I can forsee many a Fleet op now, with people chatting away to their squad, not realising they are chatting to the entire fleet as they slag off their FC "in private"  Alas, it will be a great tool for the small corporations, or small groups of players that couldn't afford to run a ts2/vent server of their own. Thumbs up! <3 |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2007.11.17 06:38:00 - [ 3]
Mouse buttons 3, 4, and 5 don't work as 'talk keys'. They didn't work when I was running on XP, they don't work now that I'm on Vista (I have a Logitech MX510 mouse). Other buttons and keys work fine. This has been the state of things for a long time now. Do you guys plan to fix the use of convenient mouse buttons for talk keys? |
Azrael Maxim
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2007.11.19 05:11:00 - [ 4]
Will there be an option to separate eve-voice volume from the master volume as I have trouble hearing people speak over the ambient background noises from being in docked stations, and while cloaked in space etc.
Preferably I would like to be able to lower all sound in eve but have eve-voice on a high level. |
Bentula |
Posted - 2007.11.19 09:15:00 - [ 5]
Originally by: Azrael Maxim
Will there be an option to separate eve-voice volume from the master volume as I have trouble hearing people speak over the ambient background noises from being in docked stations, and while cloaked in space etc.
Preferably I would like to be able to lower all sound in eve but have eve-voice on a high level.
As far as i am aware sound settings of eve dont affect voice volume. So you could just turn down the effects in audio tab in client. I have sounds completly turned off and eve voice still works like a charm. |
Azrael Maxim
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2007.11.19 12:53:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: Bentula
Originally by: Azrael Maxim
Will there be an option to separate eve-voice volume from the master volume as I have trouble hearing people speak over the ambient background noises from being in docked stations, and while cloaked in space etc.
Preferably I would like to be able to lower all sound in eve but have eve-voice on a high level.
As far as i am aware sound settings of eve dont affect voice volume. So you could just turn down the effects in audio tab in client. I have sounds completly turned off and eve voice still works like a charm.
Is that on sisi right now ?, because when I turn down the master volume to 0 on tq it also turns down eve voice =/ |
Essack Leadae
Caldari |
Posted - 2007.11.19 12:58:00 - [ 7]
Edited by: Essack Leadae on 19/11/2007 13:00:16
The choice of keys for EvE Voice is rather limited. Also the chosen can be used in any software as long that EvE is launched, so there is a risk for unwanted action by use of keyboard shortcuts.
It can be more practical if CCP can add in this list, some of the useless keys like the Windows keys and Appskey, as TS do. |
CCP Gangleri
Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.11.19 15:57:00 - [ 8]
I recommend opening the esc menu and setting volume options by using the echo test before joining any voice channels, this gives you a better idea of what others will be hearing. The Input volume slider is very sensitive and should rarely have to be set to maximum, if you do not see an input volume slider then you have old voice settings since before the slider was changed to its current format. We are aware of this issue and are working on resolving it. |
Azrael Maxim
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2007.11.19 17:45:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: CCP Gangleri
I recommend opening the esc menu and setting volume options by using the echo test before joining any voice channels, this gives you a better idea of what others will be hearing. The Input volume slider is very sensitive and should rarely have to be set to maximum, if you do not see an input volume slider then you have old voice settings since before the slider was changed to its current format. We are aware of this issue and are working on resolving it.
I do hope you guys are working on seperating the eve-voice volume from the master volume slider, as its simply hard to hear others while I am unable to lower ambient sounds, and also warp, and jump sounds etc. For the rest eve-voice would be a most excellent service for a small corp like us, if you will be able to work the flaws out. |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2007.11.20 01:10:00 - [ 10]
Has anyone been able to set up EVE voice in such a way that the voice communications go through the USB headset and the other EVE sounds go through external speakers? The options all seem to be there in the sound settings panel, but I can't get it to work (aside from using the USB mic - that works).
This is the way my TS is setup and it's very convenient. |
Azrael Maxim
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle |
Posted - 2007.11.21 03:14:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Razin
Has anyone been able to set up EVE voice in such a way that the voice communications go through the USB headset and the other EVE sounds go through external speakers? The options all seem to be there in the sound settings panel, but I can't get it to work (aside from using the USB mic - that works).
This is the way my TS is setup and it's very convenient.
If all I need to do is get a usb mic, and it would solve my problem that would be fine as well, can anyone confirm if this is the case before I do buy one ? |
Tareen Kashaar
Gyoza Society
The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2007.11.24 08:47:00 - [ 12]
Speaking of voice... Are there any plans to let us use more push-to-talk keys than the ones enabled now? Middlemouse is fine and all, but for keyboard keys, [Insert] and [ScrollLock] are among my favorite ptt keys... as hardly anything else ever uses them. With the Ctrl, Alt etc keys, you'll get people hotmic'ing when they try to lock targets, activate low/medslots, etc... |
Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos |
Posted - 2007.11.24 09:29:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Razin
Mouse buttons 3, 4, and 5 don't work as 'talk keys'. They didn't work when I was running on XP, they don't work now that I'm on Vista (I have a Logitech MX510 mouse). Other buttons and keys work fine. This has been the state of things for a long time now. Do you guys plan to fix the use of convenient mouse buttons for talk keys?
Aha I know what your problem is, get same on alot of related kit. What you need to do isget the mouse driver from the manufacturer and program those extra keys/define/map them onto a normal key. Then you can bind that normal key and your sorted. Issue is beyond mouse1/mouse2 everything else is optional and basicly its defined at the driver level. This means that keybinding programs can have fun as they generaly only acknowledge mouse1 and mouse2 and thats it. End result you feel like your flapping in the wind trying to map them. This as mentioned just needs those keys mapped to a normal bindable key on the keyboard and your able to then use them. Remember alot of funky keyboard options are mearly internal bindings handeled at driver level, same with mice. This is the same on XP/VISTA, so basicly map those extra buttons to something bindable by the application your using. In this case your mice driver - which WILL have burried the option to change the action/binds upon those extra lovely buttons. |
Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos |
Posted - 2007.11.24 10:07:00 - [ 14]
Can anybody confirm the SIP issues due to useing same ports has been resolved? Was major reason I never even got to try eve-voice initialy due to this port clash and would be majorly ****ed if find post patch that my SIP phones totaly buggered everytime I run eve as would meen me not running eve :(.
TIA |
Karina Bellac |
Posted - 2007.11.24 13:29:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Zenst
Originally by: Razin
Mouse buttons 3, 4, and 5 don't work as 'talk keys'. They didn't work when I was running on XP, they don't work now that I'm on Vista (I have a Logitech MX510 mouse). Other buttons and keys work fine. This has been the state of things for a long time now. Do you guys plan to fix the use of convenient mouse buttons for talk keys?
Aha I know what your problem is, get same on alot of related kit. What you need to do isget the mouse driver from the manufacturer and program those extra keys/define/map them onto a normal key. Then you can bind that normal key and your sorted.
Issue is beyond mouse1/mouse2 everything else is optional and basicly its defined at the driver level. This means that keybinding programs can have fun as they generaly only acknowledge mouse1 and mouse2 and thats it. End result you feel like your flapping in the wind trying to map them. This as mentioned just needs those keys mapped to a normal bindable key on the keyboard and your able to then use them. Remember alot of funky keyboard options are mearly internal bindings handeled at driver level, same with mice.
This is the same on XP/VISTA, so basicly map those extra buttons to something bindable by the application your using. In this case your mice driver - which WILL have burried the option to change the action/binds upon those extra lovely buttons.
Except that Teamsqueak and Ventrilo work just fine when using the extra buttons. |
CCP Gangleri
Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.11.24 14:01:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Zenst
Can anybody confirm the SIP issues due to useing same ports has been resolved? Was major reason I never even got to try eve-voice initialy due to this port clash and would be majorly ****ed if find post patch that my SIP phones totaly buggered everytime I run eve as would meen me not running eve :(.
TIA
What ports would that be? The default ports for Voice have been changed but I'd need more info from you regarding this to confirm, I recommend you log on to Sisi, using the correct parameters for the shortcut as mentioned above, and try it out for yourself. If you run into problems you can file a bug report and we will look into it. |
Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos |
Posted - 2007.11.24 22:22:00 - [ 17]
Edited by: Zenst on 24/11/2007 22:43:30 Originally by: CCP Gangleri
Originally by: Zenst
Can anybody confirm the SIP issues due to useing same ports has been resolved? Was major reason I never even got to try eve-voice initialy due to this port clash and would be majorly ****ed if find post patch that my SIP phones totaly buggered everytime I run eve as would meen me not running eve :(.
TIA
What ports would that be? The default ports for Voice have been changed but I'd need more info from you regarding this to confirm, I recommend you log on to Sisi, using the correct parameters for the shortcut as mentioned above, and try it out for yourself. If you run into problems you can file a bug report and we will look into it.
Well it was bug reported previously - THAT I'm aware of. So any chance of you feeding back from that one? From previous personal experience I have identified issues on the test server before that were play limiting and they still went blissfully into production and not get touched until a later - so personly I like to save my time to play a game. I've also personlay never realy had any feedback upon such bugs raised in the past. So excuss me if I pass on stressing myself out. you test it and tell me SIP is a standard protocol and if you want me to pay for me to do your job, sorry. Dont wash. It will either work or not and I can mearly suspend my account until it does work. Sorry of comming a bit stern but given my personal previous experience of the test server/bug reporting and feedback you can forgive me for going for the only option were I can get feedback - here. Now I know it was a raised bug/issues for many early on in eve-voice due to a port clash. Now if eve-voice has a fixed port and you cant change it and it is the same port then I'd say you still have an issues but you tell me as this bug already reported and I see no point spending my time duplicating something that is already been raised. So is it still an issue or not - and if you dont know - maybe, just maybe you should find out.  [EDIT ADD] http://www.eve-search.com/thread/631159/page/1#1 YOU STILL HAVE A ISSUE :((( |
Nachtjaeger
Minmatar
COVENANT OF THE STARS
|
Posted - 2007.11.25 16:03:00 - [ 18]
When i log into sisi with this character i get the following
15:54:15 Notify Could not find a voice chat account
15:54:15 Notify Creating voice account
15:54:16 Notify Create account failed, this username already exists
As far as i am aware, i've never had an eve voice account so i'm not sure what's happening. Does this need bug reporting? |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2007.11.25 19:49:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Karina Bellac
Originally by: Zenst
Originally by: Razin
Mouse buttons 3, 4, and 5 don't work as 'talk keys'. They didn't work when I was running on XP, they don't work now that I'm on Vista (I have a Logitech MX510 mouse). Other buttons and keys work fine. This has been the state of things for a long time now. Do you guys plan to fix the use of convenient mouse buttons for talk keys?
Aha I know what your problem is, get same on alot of related kit. What you need to do isget the mouse driver from the manufacturer and program those extra keys/define/map them onto a normal key. Then you can bind that normal key and your sorted.
Issue is beyond mouse1/mouse2 everything else is optional and basicly its defined at the driver level. This means that keybinding programs can have fun as they generaly only acknowledge mouse1 and mouse2 and thats it. End result you feel like your flapping in the wind trying to map them. This as mentioned just needs those keys mapped to a normal bindable key on the keyboard and your able to then use them. Remember alot of funky keyboard options are mearly internal bindings handeled at driver level, same with mice.
This is the same on XP/VISTA, so basicly map those extra buttons to something bindable by the application your using. In this case your mice driver - which WILL have burried the option to change the action/binds upon those extra lovely buttons.
Except that Teamsqueak and Ventrilo work just fine when using the extra buttons.
This. I use mouse button 3 for my TS config. In addition, other games recognize all my mouse buttons without me having to remap them to some keyboard key. No that I could easily since Logitech does not have a Vista driver for my mouse (however all its buttons work for their default functions using the Vista default mouse driver). |
Caya
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2007.11.25 22:10:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Nachtjaeger
When i log into sisi with this character i get the following
15:54:15 Notify Could not find a voice chat account
15:54:15 Notify Creating voice account
15:54:16 Notify Create account failed, this username already exists
As far as i am aware, i've never had an eve voice account so i'm not sure what's happening. Does this need bug reporting?
getting the same problem on SiSi... how to fix it? |
Murtough Galaktikus
Black-Wing
|
Posted - 2007.11.26 11:09:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Caya
Originally by: Nachtjaeger
When i log into sisi with this character i get the following
15:54:15 Notify Could not find a voice chat account
15:54:15 Notify Creating voice account
15:54:16 Notify Create account failed, this username already exists
As far as i am aware, i've never had an eve voice account so i'm not sure what's happening. Does this need bug reporting?
getting the same problem on SiSi... how to fix it?
same over here. But it works with 2nd account and same test-client (cache). |
Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Not Found. |
Posted - 2007.11.26 12:57:00 - [ 22]
Edited by: Sky Marshal on 26/11/2007 13:31:31This error is probably the consequence of the (unexpected) mirror of 11/15, and that you don't activate Eve Voice on TQ. If you went in SiSi before the mirror, your EV account had been created, but officialy you don't have one on TQ. So with the mirror, Eve SiSi want absolutely create a new account, stated by the fact that you didn't activate it on TQ, but he don't know how reuse an existing one... Yes, Eve is probably dumb. OK, in fact I have the same error that Nachtjaeger : Create account failed, this username already exists. No more EV options in Audio Settings (only Eve Voice Enabled, still ON), no more possible to join an audio channel, etc... Trying to disable/enable EV don't change anything. Not really great to try it  I tried probably only 5 minuts before the mirror... |
Murtough Galaktikus
Black-Wing
|
Posted - 2007.11.26 15:05:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Sky Marshal
Edited by: Sky Marshal on 26/11/2007 13:31:31
Yes, Eve is probably dumb.
funny enough - this makes sense.  Seriously this description above is probably 100% the cause. Too bad... |
CCP Mindstar
|
Posted - 2007.11.26 15:56:00 - [ 24]
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2007.12.01 04:00:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Razin
Has anyone been able to set up EVE voice in such a way that the voice communications go through the USB headset and the other EVE sounds go through external speakers?
This now works on SISI. Still can't use any other mouse buttons to talk except for the middle one. |
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