Posted - 2007.10.10 12:46:00 - [31]

 

Originally by: eXtas

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Zixxa did u get ganked and want to cry? atleast do the hate in right forum

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Wow, ****** from 0utbreak is mumbling somting?
You can gank only isk farmers. You cannot gank me, because I am flying in fleet and you, brave warriors, runs, docks and logoffs when any fleet is in 20 jumps from you.

So, it is normal for 0utbreak - use mean methods to have good K/D? Recall how you lost carrier - and immediately kicked loosers from the corporation

Posted - 2007.10.10 13:06:00 - [33]

 

Well, certain people also like to cyno carrier blobs on roaming gangs while already having overhelming forces themself... Let's throw that bucklet of gasoline in fire too, eh?

Posted - 2007.10.10 13:33:00 - [35]

 

Originally by: Zixxa

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There is some very interesting problem with self-destruct.

Few day ago in 0.0 space RA villains killed few capitals of 0utbreak and TALON-something. But "smart" Outbreak pilot( Markie ) instead being killed as a man just self-destructed own carrier. You know, 0utbreaks are so great... K/D is so fantastic... 0utbreak is corporation of the year... Lost your carrier and you will be kicked out... So self-destruct is much more suitable!

Anyway, what type of solution can be implemented to stop this plague?
I think this trick will be very popular among "real pvpers"(like 0utbreak), that can gank only poor isk farmers or stupid belt hunters, but run away from any serious danger.

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Hello bitter RA alt who post fakemails on theirs killboard.

Posted - 2007.10.10 14:58:00 - [37]

 

Being it's thier ship why cant they do what they please with it? Your addiction to killmails is the problem the result is the same. He lost his carrier.

Posted - 2007.10.10 15:06:00 - [39]

 

Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 10/10/2007 15:18:50
Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 10/10/2007 15:08:47
Self-Destruct SHOULD do the following:

1) Destroys cargo
2) Destroys modules
3) Destroys wreck
4) based on size of ship,

Titan explosion radius and strength 1/2 of DDD
Carrier 1/4 DDD
BS 1/8 DDD
Cruiser 1/16 DDD
Destroyer 1/32 DDD
Frigate 1/64 DDD

I would think mechanically in the game, after ship destruction, DDD of appropriate strength is placed near the wreck with a .01/sec timer. Should destroy the users pod, his wreck, wrecks nearby, and possibly ships nearby as well depending on the ships original size.

A new hi-slot moodule, skill, POS modules:

Docking Ring / Habitat -

Powergrid/CPU useage would be directly proportional to size of habitat.

Docking Ring (restricted to Maurader class ships) carries Marines used for ship boarding.
*Marines are racial with different bonuses strengths.
*Factional Marines offering different greater bonuses and strengths known as Mercenaries.
*Habitat would be used for offense or defense.

POS:
*Training habitat for production of Marines
*required materials for production would be mins+trade goods(guns?)+slaves

Skill:
*Boarding
*Ship to ship grappling

Posted - 2007.10.10 15:19:00 - [41]

 

Edited by: Rakeris on 10/10/2007 15:22:32
Whatever 0utbreak, is doing, they much be doing it right. As they sure are making some annoying pricks mad. So keep it up guys!

EDIT: Ok wtf, how is pr-ick a bad word....kinda like crack...

Posted - 2007.10.10 15:48:00 - [43]

 

Originally by: Zixxa

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There is some very interesting problem with self-destruct.

Few day ago in 0.0 space RA villains killed few capitals of 0utbreak and TALON-something. But "smart" Outbreak pilot( Markie ) instead being killed as a man just self-destructed own carrier. You know, 0utbreaks are so great... K/D is so fantastic... 0utbreak is corporation of the year... Lost your carrier and you will be kicked out... So self-destruct is much more suitable!

Anyway, what type of solution can be implemented to stop this plague?
I think this trick will be very popular among "real pvpers"(like 0utbreak), that can gank only poor isk farmers or stupid belt hunters, but run away from any serious danger.

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you know you right, that is darn annoying.

Simple fix - cant initiate self-destruct whilst locked.

There problem solved. Now for a patch with it.

Posted - 2007.10.10 16:08:00 - [45]

 

Originally by: Nicho Void

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Originally by: Zenst

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Originally by: Zixxa

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There is some very interesting problem with self-destruct.

Few day ago in 0.0 space RA villains killed few capitals of 0utbreak and TALON-something. But "smart" <SNIP>

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you know you right, that is darn annoying.

Simple fix - cant initiate self-destruct whilst locked.

There problem solved. Now for a patch with it.

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Yes, limit the things I can do with my own ship. I want to blow it up? Too damn bad, you've got to fly it into a hostile gate camp to accomplish that. What next? I want to turn on reppers? **** that! I might not kill you and get the loot if that happens. Nerf tanking!

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WHAT! Mate your have seriously missed the plot if thats how you see it. Did I say you had to warp to a gate to accomplish a self-destruct - errr no, not in the slightest. But if my solution fails your personal standards then I'm sorry, it was a soloution to a problem and unless you can come up with something more constructive then going off at a tangent on others is hardly scoring the constructive points with anybody.

Now if you dont think there is a porblem then just say so instead of going of on some loopy tripped interpritation of a proposed solution.

Posted - 2007.10.10 16:15:00 - [47]

 

farming ravens are dangerous! I think they fight back more then most ppl!

Posted - 2007.10.10 16:31:00 - [49]

 

Originally by: Venkul Mul

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Originally by: Sheriff Jones

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Originally by: Kombat PL

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Originally by: Sheriff Jones

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It SHOULD:

Destroy ship.
Destroy modules.
Destroy wreck even.
Destroy cargo.
Destroy..yes...POD.
Cause damage to the nearby ships, dependent on size.

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Also if You had cargo full of some explosive stuff (ammo, fuel, etc) it should amplify the explosion damage. It would be cool to see some suicide anti blob warfare ;) Meaby even a T2 self destruct specialist ship hehehehe.

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This has been discussed and agreed on SO many times that i'm really curious why it hasn't been put in

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Maybe because setting a Iteron 5 with T1 cheap extenders, full of the most damaging ammo and self destructing on the exit point of jita 4-4 would start a chain raction of concord/blow up/more concord/more blow up sufficent to crash the server?

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Nah, high-sec--> set self destruct-->concord pop you.

Takes less then two minutes for sure.

Posted - 2007.10.10 17:10:00 - [51]

 

Just forbid self-destructing being aggroed and mean people from "Famous" 0utbreak stop their stupid tricks for saving K/D rate.

Posted - 2007.10.10 17:15:00 - [53]

 

Originally by: warpod

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Originally by: Zixxa

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You cannot gank me, because I am flying in fleet and you, brave warriors, runs, docks and logoffs when any fleet is in 20 jumps from you.

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A fleet of ravens? Or I missed something and 0.0 alliances are formed from NPC corp characters?

Or you just so brave and afraid to show up you real ID?

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Yet another stupid imperial carebear. Noob! Go-go to your mommy. Tell her how you and your friends are great in Jita.

Posted - 2007.10.10 17:18:00 - [55]

 

Originally by: Zixxa

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Originally by: Zixxa

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Just forbid self-destructing being aggroed and mean people from "Famous" 0utbreak stop their stupid tricks for saving K/D rate.

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You know, arguing with 0utbreak members in ways that have nothing to do with the point you were supposedly trying to make, combined with your general angry ranting style, isn't really aiding your argument.
Are you anti self-destruct or anti 0utbreak? Right now it looks alot like the latter.

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I do not worry about results.
I do not like self-destruct at all.
I hate when so mean trick is used by "The Greatest Pvp Corporation in Eve". It is shame.

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Great, you made your point. So why are you still in this thread, not responding to logical arguments made for self-destructing, and flaming random people who disagree with you?

Posted - 2007.10.10 21:46:00 - [57]

 

AFAIK ammo (or other charges like cap boosters or probes) which you have *loaded* in the appropriate modules does not go poof.