Originally by: Erik Amirault

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That's the biggest load of bull ever. When our newer players run out of ships in the area they use frigates. Frigates are legitimate ships, flown my players, with modules activated by players. That is a perfectly legitimate tactic. I have never heard anyone say to bring random newbie ships to "lag out a system." Additionally, the point is that with cyno-jammers in the game, major battles are going to be determined by who has the most drones active in a system rather than who brings the most pilots, better equipped pilots or more experienced pilots (all of which require actual people). I'm not sure what can be done to adjust drones but needless to say it is in fact a sad strategy.

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Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck

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Don't twist it.
The fact is that some Goon members feel the need to blame us for the lag: bringing in lots of fighters, bringing in blobs, etc. This is ironic and hypocritical to say the least when it is your alliance that uses superior numbers to fight it's opponents.

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Otherwise, yes, CCP fails when they create content which the servers clearly can't handle when used - territorial conquest and the big fleet battles it leads to. No i am not satisfied with how the servers are. But you don't see us blaming you for the current state of the servers, or for bringing blobs, etc.

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Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck

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Originally by: Pastora

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Honestly, there was no lag. Ask CCP! Logs show no lag, so there was none. We are too hyperactive. Track your time. Base, base, base...

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There is no server lag. Only our ISP and computer problems...

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Originally by: Blue Medusa

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Originally by: Erik Amirault

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Yea, who would have thought that bringing new people into the game is such an evil thing. It's completely on par with using massive fighter blobs in massively lagged circumstances to kill ships before any players can actually do something. What was I thinking, i'm so crazy. You guys are reaching incredibly far to equivocate the two circumstances when one circumstance is completely out of the players hands (lag/fighters) and the other is not (recruitment, participation and alliance building).

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They hate low SP characters that want to bring it I knew it!

I completely forgot this war is only for high SP elitist ***gots.
We're not worthy of loading the grid cause we fly t1 ships and have more friends

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Originally by: MacQueen

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This thread is really bitter, and I do not know why. People take their space games seriously, but I suppose it is frustrating lagging and getting no help from the GMs. Sportsmanship from goons and bob is awful right here. The game is broken, I'm sure BoB is lagging out as well, and that sucks. Hopefully ccp will fix the lag with Revelations 3.

Have fun BoB, you're doing really well and looks like you're having a blast.

It does make me sad though that instead of congratulating eachother on a good fight, everyone is simply full of bitter comments about dev misconduct, or how goons are trash and don't deserve to play the game.

This game gets too serious sometimes.
(can we conga together or no?)

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Originally by: forumus trollus

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I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.

I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.

Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.

Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.

On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)

So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.

I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.

Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.

So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey

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