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Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.23 15:13:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Siri Blue on 23/07/2007 15:20:22
Mackinaw BPO
Stats: ME 0 PE 1
Production Time in station: 16 hours 16 minutes
Ships producable per day: 1.4754 in station
1.9672 in POS


Production Costs: T1 Ship: ~ 4.05 million
T2 Production Parts: 11.83 million
(Long term delivery contract with T2 part supplier can be handed over to new owner of BPO)
Other Parts ~ 0.69 million
Total Production costs per ship: 16.57 million

Sales Prices: Outer Regions: ~136 million per ship
Jita Region: ~119 million per ship

Profit: 119.43 Million per ship outer regions
102.43 Million per ship in Jita

Profit per day: 234.9 million in outer regions
201.5 million in Jita

Profit per Year: 85.75 billion in outer regions
73.5 billion in Jita


Auction Rules:
Starting Bid: 50 Billion
Reserve: Hidden
Buyout: 90 Billion
Sniper Rule: 15 minutes
Auction End: Monday 30th 20:00 Eve Time

Happy Bidding

Orik Sky
Posted - 2007.07.23 21:02:00 - [2]
 

What is the minimum increase to each bid?

-Orik Sky

Sophia Furies
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.07.23 21:48:00 - [3]
 

just tell us whats the reserve price

Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.24 00:27:00 - [4]
 

Minimum Bid increment...hrm...250 million I'd say ;)

Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.24 23:38:00 - [5]
 

The Reserve would be somewhere in the middle between starting bid and buyout I'd say...also depending on my mood I'd guess ugh

Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.25 19:24:00 - [6]
 

Someone told me something about the average price of the last year being taken into consideration and not current prices of the ships....
So, I just had a look at the year graph of the Mackinaw sales (in Sinq Laison in this case)...
The Macks started out around 110 million isk one year ago...went slightly down in the next months with a low of around 85 million and from there went up again to over 130 million...
The yearly average of the Mack is around 100 Million ISK with a rising tendency...
So even when you don't take the current prices into account but only the yearly average of 100 million ISK per ship...the yearly profit is still around 60 Billion ISK!!!

DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2007.07.25 20:00:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Siri Blue
Someone told me something about the average price of the last year being taken into consideration and not current prices of the ships....



They are probably stoned or in some other way mentally unable to understand how things work.....

;)..
You have to take invention into consideration, and what TODAYS sell price is worth (and how much demand there is for the item)..

This is still an excellent bpo and it surprises me you havent had any offers well above your starting price yet...
I would offer up 50b if I had it ;)..

DayVV4lkEr
Liga Freier Terraner
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2007.07.25 20:13:00 - [8]
 

TBH i think the BPO is well worth the 90 b atm BUT getting such a BPO is involved with a lot of risk since Invention and if the only reason would be that you never know what CCP will do with Datacore Drop-Rates.

TBH i'm well interested in that BPO myself i just don't know if i'm willing to take such a Risk, but i'm pretty sure you will be able to find someone that is.

You should at least not take such dumb advise like the one you got told with the average price!

It is all about risk nowadays and less about real profit. Everyone wants to get more money and your BPO is a good oppertunity for it and everyone has to decide for himself how much risk the way he takes is worth.

Friendly Bump :)

Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.25 22:59:00 - [9]
 

Thanks for all the encouraging words ;)
The fact that Mack prices rose despite the introduction of Inventions...probably just means the need for ICE is eternal *hehehe*
So...I guess my pricing wasn't all that wrong to start with ;)

skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
Posted - 2007.07.26 09:07:00 - [10]
 

Just saying you have too take invention into consideration (which would be that 80m price drop) Not prices over a year ago... That what people would look at when considering such a risky investment. The last one on 7/3/2007 sold for 43.5B ISK [ Proof]
There is much risk when investing into such a non-combat item, as opposed too investing into a HAC which is in constant demand as they die in combat so often.

Not trying too troll your auction, just saying that aiming for that 60-70b mark for any investor would be iffy; but if any said investors pockets were that thick and would like the thrill too invest into such a great mining rig, I would strongly suggest too!

Good luck with the auction, your friend - skilzrulz

Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.27 15:55:00 - [11]
 

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Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 18:16:00 - [12]
 

If noone want to buy it I'll be happy to buy a Shadow Control Tower instead, anyone got one for sale? Razz

Jacques Archambault


ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.07.30 20:51:00 - [13]
 

Thread cleaned.

Please only post if you are making a bid or if you have a question related to the auction. Friendly bumps are against the rules, as only the OP is permitted to bump his/her thread once a day. All off-topic posts will be removed.

-Jacques

Galfrey
Posted - 2007.07.30 21:14:00 - [14]
 

I'll re-state the bid I made at 19:08 then - 20 bill.


Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.30 23:29:00 - [15]
 

Um, dude, for 20 bil I'd buy the BPO myself...actually even for 40 bil I'd buy any Mack BPO offered to me...
Auction is over, I'll keep the print, and keep printing ISK on a weekly basis, thanks for your attention ugh

Dimning
Posted - 2007.07.31 00:36:00 - [16]
 

Since the auction is over I hope I can make a comment.

Looks like one missed by most inventors :)

Sentry Builder
Posted - 2007.07.31 05:50:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Sentry Builder on 31/07/2007 06:09:35

EXCEL-BuilderVer3.3

ArrowPrimary Blue Print Info
Name: Mackinaw
In Game Price: 50,000,000,000.00 ISK
Unit(s) Per Run: 1
Run(s): 589
What is the BP ME? 0 ME
Your Unit Selling Price: 100,000,000.00 ISK
Use Master Prices? No
Primary Bluid Cost 590,000.00 ISK
Invention Waste Amount Only 0%
Does ME Effect Components? Yes


ArrowSecondary Blue Print Info
Tech1 Variant ME? 0 ME
Retriever -
Variant Build Cost 5,149,684.47 ISK

ArrowR.A.M.- Tech Blue Print Info
R.A.M.- Tech ME? 0 ME
R.A.M.- Starship Tech -
R.A.M.- Tech Damage % 95%
Max # of Runs With 1 RAM: 1
Build Cost of Ram: 30,293.23 ISK
Ram Cost Per Run: 28,778.57 ISK

ArrowTotal Cost and Profits
Run(s) Needed to Profit: 589
Build Cost Per 1 Unit: 15,046,718.41 ISK
Build Cost Per 1 Run: 15,046,718.41 ISK
Profit Per 1 Unit: 84,953,281.59 ISK
Total Run Cost: 8,981,189,356.47 ISK
Total Profit %: 564.60%
Grand Total Profit: 37,482,857.39 ISK

ArrowTotal Build Cost Needed To Start Profiting
8,862,517,142.61 ISK

ArrowTotal Cost With Blue Print, Needed to Over Profit
58,862,517,142.61 ISK

INFO ABOVE IS BASED OFF THESE PRICES.
ALSO BASED THAT YOU ARE BUILDING EVERYTHING.

Tritanium: 2.87 ISK
Pyerite: 8.15 ISK
Mexallon: 26.41 ISK
Isogen: 120.33 ISK
Nocxium: 273.48 ISK
Zydrine: 2,120.99 ISK
Megacyte: 4,217.00 ISK
Morphite 10,000.00 ISK

Crystalline Carbonide 75.99 ISK
Fermionic Condensates 12,875.17 ISK
Fernite Carbide 81.98 ISK
Ferrogel 9,015.17 ISK
Fullerides 401.97 ISK
Hypersynaptic Fibers 3,810.81 ISK
Nanotransistors 1,787.64 ISK
Phenolic Composites 654.75 ISK
Sylramic Fibers 199.99 ISK
Titanium Carbide 210.99 ISK
Tungsten Carbide 97.99 ISK

Construction Blocks 500.00 ISK

Sentry Skills
Posted - 2007.07.31 06:06:00 - [18]
 

Any who, The Info above telld me that it would take over 1 Year just to build 589 Ships to make back your 50 Billion.

Build Time x Run Needed to Profit = Total Days / 1 Year = Years
1.4754 x 589 = 869.0106 / 365 = 2.38 Years..

Even Selling the Ships @ 200mil Per it would still take over Year for you to make back your 50 Billion.

Now for the offer I saw for 20 Billion Selling ships @ 100mil per. Just Over 1 Year (399.8334 Days)

20 Billion = Mackinaw BPO Rolling Eyes

DayVV4lkEr
Liga Freier Terraner
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2007.07.31 10:39:00 - [19]
 

Not quite true.

I would say this BPO is worth at least 40 b. The only reason i didn't bid on it is that CCP mentioned to release a Mining Carrier and i bought a Modulated Deep Core Miner II BPO back when they were good (and i took the full price crash).

The BPO is simply to risky for me altough it is ATM worth quite a lot of money.

Galfrey
Posted - 2007.07.31 19:58:00 - [20]
 

I think that with what is happening to Invention these days 40-50 bill is on the high side so I will save my isk for now.

Happy to discuss if you change your mind though Siri ... Smile

Sentry Skills
Posted - 2007.08.01 08:15:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Sentry Skills on 01/08/2007 08:26:49
Originally by: DayVV4lkEr
Not quite true.

I would say this BPO is worth at least 40 b. The only reason i didn't bid on it is that CCP mentioned to release a Mining Carrier and i bought a Modulated Deep Core Miner II BPO back when they were good (and i took the full price crash).

The BPO is simply to risky for me altough it is ATM worth quite a lot of money.


... ummm, I can't see anyone paying more than 20billion for it, at least if they understand the info I posted above ...

Slave 18742
Posted - 2007.08.03 07:01:00 - [22]
 

So lets say that people think its to expensive. They have to concider that the bpo is a "fixed cost" and the materials needed to build it are the only thing actually needing to be paid.

Ex:
BPO 40bil
Materials to get started: 10 bil

Most are only basing their calculation on the need to cover the entire sum of isk(50bil) instead of acutally only having only to cover the 10 bil and then begin to make profit.

You can always sell BPO like this one. Good luck next time you want to sell.

Slave


 

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