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Topic |
Warrio
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.07.04 17:39:00 - [ 1]
I see that bombs have been added to the game and the SB's are now supposedly useful little fellas again (were they ever?).
So, has anyone had any epic moments with the bombs yet? Such as you are your friend were in SB's and came upon a gang of frigates, 1 shotting them all and laughing for days afterwards? Mass poddings? |
Spenz
Gallente
PCG Enterprises
Huzzah Federation |
Posted - 2007.07.04 17:42:00 - [ 2]
Fnding out that bombs are 0.0 only, cost 23 mil each to make, and still dont make the SB any more useful....
Epic. |
Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente
United Mining And Distribution
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Posted - 2007.07.04 18:09:00 - [ 3]
Frigates wouldn't have that much trouble with bombs anyway. Their signature radius is so low that most of the bomb damage is taken away immediately, and they'll have plenty of time to mwd away. It would take 6 or 7 bombs to kill an interceptor sitting still  Bombs are better vs larger targets, like battlecruisers and battleships. |
Gott1
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.07.04 19:00:00 - [ 4]
Bombs are nice, any small ship that even thinks of using mwd will intapop and 2 bombs will kill just about any thing cruser on down, 1 bomb inta pops Destroyers/dictors there usfull vs huge fleets that are hugging gates. drop bomb warp off just before your fleet warps in 90% of there fleet will have huge chunk of shields /armer gone
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Warrio
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.07.04 19:08:00 - [ 5]
Well there you go.
Sucks to be a SB pilot I guess... but I spose they'd be used to that.
HAHAHA |
cas0
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2007.07.04 19:25:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: cas0 on 04/07/2007 19:25:23
SB = best ships in game if u know how to use it. with my 1st hound i had 80 kills before it poped thanks to a mistake i made and a lucky sniper 10km from me heh my next 1 i lost i got 60 with but i dysnc with few others in system and GM gave that 1 back im up to nearly 200kills in 2 weeks with my sb's. heh 500+ if u count nubships/pods trying to get past.
i love my hound its the best ship in the game if used right. just the other day as 2 groups of bs (both hostel) where duking it out i decloaked and stole the KM off of the 1bs that died heh with 1 volley and cloaked right after leaving the others to go wtf who got km heh tho i did send it to them i was like dam should of made them pay for it. lol
Any thing under a bs u can solo just need to know how =) well and some bs u can solo... if thay got no tank =P
bombs are just cake on the iceing. 2 100man fleets fighting at close rang... sneek in drop bomb and look at your KM even if u dont pop them u will get on lots =) lol |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2007.07.04 19:45:00 - [ 7]
 Originally by: cas0
Edited by: cas0 on 04/07/2007 19:25:23
SB = best ships in game if u know how to use it. with my 1st hound i had 80 kills before it poped thanks to a mistake i made and a lucky sniper 10km from me heh my next 1 i lost i got 60 with but i dysnc with few others in system and GM gave that 1 back im up to nearly 200kills in 2 weeks with my sb's. heh 500+ if u count nubships/pods trying to get past.
i love my hound its the best ship in the game if used right. just the other day as 2 groups of bs (both hostel) where duking it out i decloaked and stole the KM off of the 1bs that died heh with 1 volley and cloaked right after leaving the others to go wtf who got km heh tho i did send it to them i was like dam should of made them pay for it. lol
Any thing under a bs u can solo just need to know how =) well and some bs u can solo... if thay got no tank =P
bombs are just cake on the iceing. 2 100man fleets fighting at close rang... sneek in drop bomb and look at your KM even if u dont pop them u will get on lots =) lol
English.. friend.. your.. |
Goberth Ludwig
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2007.07.06 11:30:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Gott1
2 bombs will kill just about any thing cruser on down,
yeah in your dreams... - Gob |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness. |
Posted - 2007.07.06 12:57:00 - [ 9]
Bombs are simply stupdly expensive. CCp screwed by a whole mile on this one.
What the hell were hey smoking when they dreamed someone would use ammunition with this price?
1 mil is the MAX price i can see people using them. |
lofty29
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:05:00 - [ 10]
Edited by: lofty29 on 06/07/2007 13:26:40 Originally by: cas0
Edited by: cas0 on 04/07/2007 19:25:23
SB = best ships in game if u know how to use it. with my 1st hound i had 80 kills before it poped thanks to a mistake i made and a lucky sniper 10km from me heh my next 1 i lost i got 60 with but i dysnc with few others in system and GM gave that 1 back im up to nearly 200kills in 2 weeks with my sb's. heh 500+ if u count nubships/pods trying to get past.
i love my hound its the best ship in the game if used right. just the other day as 2 groups of bs (both hostel) where duking it out i decloaked and stole the KM off of the 1bs that died heh with 1 volley and cloaked right after leaving the others to go wtf who got km heh tho i did send it to them i was like dam should of made them pay for it. lol
Any thing under a bs u can solo just need to know how =) well and some bs u can solo... if thay got no tank =P
bombs are just cake on the iceing. 2 100man fleets fighting at close rang... sneek in drop bomb and look at your KM even if u dont pop them u will get on lots =) lol
Thats why you only have 135 kills with your hound. And most of them are with cruise.  |
lofty29
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:07:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Bombs are simply stupdly expensive. CCp screwed by a whole mile on this one.
What the hell were hey smoking when they dreamed someone would use ammunition with this price?
1 mil is the MAX price i can see people using them.
Uh. 1m price = 50 bombers throwing bombs onto a fleet that just warped in, loosing no ships and killing as many as they like. Right, thats sensible. |
Ulii |
Posted - 2007.07.06 13:35:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Bombs are simply stupdly expensive. CCp screwed by a whole mile on this one.
What the hell were hey smoking when they dreamed someone would use ammunition with this price?
1 mil is the MAX price i can see people using them.
wasnt that the point of them?
Uh. 1m price = 50 bombers throwing bombs onto a fleet that just warped in, loosing no ships and killing as many as they like.
Right, thats sensible.
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lofty29
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:39:00 - [ 13]
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness. |
Posted - 2007.07.06 13:42:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Ulii
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Bombs are simply stupdly expensive. CCp screwed by a whole mile on this one.
What the hell were hey smoking when they dreamed someone would use ammunition with this price?
1 mil is the MAX price i can see people using them.
Uh. 1m price = 50 bombers throwing bombs onto a fleet that just warped in, loosing no ships and killing as many as they like.
Right, thats sensible.
wasnt that the point of them?
No, the point was to give a small gang an advantage over a large fleet, and to discourage huge gangs consisting solely of BS and BC. Now cruisers, dessies and frigs have a good role.
well if you are unable to notice that you cannot drop more than 6 bombs.. because more than that and the 7 first ones will kill the rest of the bombs..... and 6 Bombs would be less effect than a DD was. Seversal of them would be popped in the 15 secodns and lots of ships would warp. Also the bombs do not affect ships that are in the 30 second cloak after jumping in. Even at 1 mil each I doubt we would see them overused. |
lofty29
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.07.06 13:45:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
well if you are unable to notice that you cannot drop more than 6 bombs.. because more than that and the 7 first ones will kill the rest of the bombs.....
and 6 Bombs would be less effect than a DD was. Seversal of them would be popped in the 15 secodns and lots of ships would warp. Also the bombs do not affect ships that are in the 30 second cloak after jumping in.
Even at 1 mil each I doubt we would see them overused.
At that point you will just see people dropping them in waves. 1. Dictor fleet 2. Send in 5 bombers, bomb 3. Send in 5 bombers, bomb 4. Send in 5 bombers, bomb Cost them 15m + dictor bubble and whole fleet is decimated. No, tbh. |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps |
Posted - 2007.07.06 14:17:00 - [ 16]
I'm often misguided, but here's my take on it.
0.0 only:
I presume this to be enforced by Concord, and as such doesn't stop the bomb going off...
Cost:
Far too much. No single module should outvalue a ship by that much, no matter how effective it is. It's one thing for faction mods et al to cost as much as they do, but for a bomb that can be pumped out by any well funded corporation? Madness!
Waves:
Would be funny to watch. To be honest, I see camping a system with them to be a more effective solution. Rather than warping in on the gang, the bombers fly in on conventional engines, drop their payload (and launch a volley for good measure) and warp out. Next wave waits out of range, and repeats. Bear in mind that a fleet would try to evade the bombs dropped, so it makes sense to drop them disparately.
Dictors:
Wouldn't the bombs pop the dictor bubbles? |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness. |
Posted - 2007.07.06 14:24:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Cedric Diggory
I'm often misguided, but here's my take on it.
0.0 only:
I presume this to be enforced by Concord, and as such doesn't stop the bomb going off...
Cost:
Far too much. No single module should outvalue a ship by that much, no matter how effective it is. It's one thing for faction mods et al to cost as much as they do, but for a bomb that can be pumped out by any well funded corporation? Madness!
Waves:
Would be funny to watch. To be honest, I see camping a system with them to be a more effective solution. Rather than warping in on the gang, the bombers fly in on conventional engines, drop their payload (and launch a volley for good measure) and warp out. Next wave waits out of range, and repeats. Bear in mind that a fleet would try to evade the bombs dropped, so it makes sense to drop them disparately.
Dictors:
Wouldn't the bombs pop the dictor bubbles?
the bombs simply do not launch in 0.0.. not concord enforced. If people start using too many bombs, fleet sjust need to adapt and have 2 or 3 ships with smart bombs to pop the bombs. |
Vasiliyan
Aliastra
|
Posted - 2007.07.06 14:41:00 - [ 18]
Someone explained the cost as "firing Feroxes at the enemy" ...
It's basically been pre-nerfed because CCP don't want to have the same problem as with the doomsday device, which was causing people to quit en masse. |
Goberth Ludwig
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2007.07.07 01:07:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
well if you are unable to notice that you cannot drop more than 6 bombs.. because more than that and the 7 first ones will kill the rest of the bombs.....
and 6 Bombs would be less effect than a DD was. Seversal of them would be popped in the 15 secodns and lots of ships would warp. Also the bombs do not affect ships that are in the 30 second cloak after jumping in.
Even at 1 mil each I doubt we would see them overused.
At that point you will just see people dropping them in waves.
1. Dictor fleet
2. Send in 5 bombers, bomb
3. Send in 5 bombers, bomb
4. Send in 5 bombers, bomb
Cost them 15m + dictor bubble and whole fleet is decimated.
No, tbh.
lol each wave is at least 15 sec delay thats with PERFECT timing (impossible) between waves... you think the enemy is gonna sit there and wait? :\ - Gob |
cas0
Minmatar
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2007.07.07 06:54:00 - [ 20]
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Tacitus Krekt
Tactical Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.07.07 07:09:00 - [ 21]
Bombs > Carrier Fighter Drones
'nuff said.
Also...
Cruise missiles > interceptors.
Quite a few inty pilots have learned this the hard way. Fit a couple webs, and their careless MWD towards you will be their ending. |
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