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Haffrage
Regeneration
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Posted - 2007.06.09 19:59:00 - [ 61]
Crap! I saw those wrecks in Niarja! I almost salvaged them, but couldn't be hassled because I had valuables in my T2 indy and had to hurry because people might try to kill me  Now that you made a post about it I might go back to salvage and let you know the stuff I get. |
Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:10:00 - [ 62]
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turnschuh
Brutor Tribe |
Posted - 2007.06.09 20:11:00 - [ 63]
the Irony is if people wouldnt whine that mutch, a lot less people would do it. |
Elspeth Vigneron
Caldari
Phoenix Logistics Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:13:00 - [ 64]
 Originally by: SealteamXI
so, happily flying my iteron IV through high sec, a .8 system. I go to warp to the next gate, next thing i know i am popped by a myrmidon, suicided on.
I lost 600mil. My total assets come to around 1bil. now 400mil.
HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN!?
WHAT WAS CONCORD DOING?
Is this an exploit? To completely ruin another player's 2 months hard work in a supposedly safe part of the game, surrounded by POLICE. EVERYWHERE.
Is there any way i can get my stuff back? This has completely ruined eve for me, i'm not sure if i'm going to renew my industrial account because i'm not sure if it's worth my time to build that cash back up.
Ah. You need to harden your ship. I use an Iteron IV to transport mission running loot. I fit a shield extender and some Tech II sheild reistance amplifiers in mine. Plus I trained up my shield compensation skills so my resistances are working without me having to turn them on in the heat of battle. I also fit some 400mm Nano Fiber plate in one low slot and I put everything in cans. So when they scan me, they see cans, and they have to say "is it worth it, because I could get nothing." In total, I have about 1600 more HPs than the stock Iternon. Plus my resists are good and are "on" all the time. And so far, I've had two "OMFG HE'S RED" situations, neither of which was successful. Which suits me fine. And, maybe, someone who's better is going to try me during the next week and I'll pop. But if they don't, I'll be in a hardened Occator. |
Dal Thrax
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:17:00 - [ 65]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Are we going to have these threads every day? I seriously think this is being done by a few alt characters who wants to drive their agenda on the forums, and make it look like a lot of players are being suicided.
And if its not... and you really are genuine - welcome to Eve. Hope you've learned your lesson. You are not safe anywhere in Eve, just like in real life.
No lots of folks are being suicided. Tbh it's getting a little bit annoying. I know a guy who had is hauler popped by a suicide Brutix  for all the 100m in cargo. Quite frankly I'm wondering if it wouldn't be worthwild just to set up some kind of shield tanking BS as a cargo carrier. Dal |
Jim McGregor |
Posted - 2007.06.09 20:19:00 - [ 66]
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Lag Hon
Minmatar
Lag Hon Security
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:28:00 - [ 67]
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
The person who attacked you lost his stuff too.
His pet cat might have stepped on the keys and shot u by mistake.
You should feel sorry for him as well.
Heh, Id be feeling more sorry for the cat  |
Elspeth Vigneron
Caldari
Phoenix Logistics Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.09 20:31:00 - [ 68]
Originally by: Jim McGregorIt didnt used to be this common, so what changed if its not the playerbase? In any case, im glad empire sees some action and people are having fun. You cant protect people from not using their minds.
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Personally, I believe it was the change in mineral prices. Used to be I'd go low-sec mining with my other character. Fit out a cruiser-miner or a battleship-miner and have at it because even though I lost the odd ship, insurance paid me back and, in the long run, I ended up making considerably more the isk.
Now, the low-sec ores are, by-and-large, worth less than the high-sec ores. So why bother to go to low-sec to mine Scordite & Kernite? You can mine it all over Amarr territory with little hassle or risk. |
Valan |
Posted - 2007.06.09 22:08:00 - [ 69]
Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron
I also fit some 400mm Nano Fiber plate in one low slot and I put everything in cans. So when they scan me, they see cans, and they have to say "is it worth it, because I could get nothing."
You don't see the cans on a scan, you see what is in them. |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2007.06.09 22:11:00 - [ 70]
Originally by: Valan
Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron
I also fit some 400mm Nano Fiber plate in one low slot and I put everything in cans. So when they scan me, they see cans, and they have to say "is it worth it, because I could get nothing."
You don't see the cans on a scan, you see what is in them.
Actually, you're both wrong- you see nothing. Its a bug, I gather, but neither cans nor their contents apear on a cargo scan. |
mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS. |
Posted - 2007.06.09 22:16:00 - [ 71]
The possibility of suicide ganking should be mentioned in the tutorial.
As it stands, too many people get killed in high sec while having no idea that this was even a possibility.
And don't think a transport ship will keep you totally safe either, although it might take 4 myrms to kill you now... |
Miss Anthropy
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.06.09 22:20:00 - [ 72]
Originally by: Terra Mauter
In my first 2months of eve, 100mil was an unreachable sum for me...
Yet your making billions in your first months? Stop complaining.
Maybe he bought it. |
Valan |
Posted - 2007.06.09 23:33:00 - [ 73]
Edited by: Valan on 09/06/2007 23:37:49 Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Valan
Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron
I also fit some 400mm Nano Fiber plate in one low slot and I put everything in cans. So when they scan me, they see cans, and they have to say "is it worth it, because I could get nothing."
You don't see the cans on a scan, you see what is in them.
Actually, you're both wrong- you see nothing. Its a bug, I gather, but neither cans nor their contents apear on a cargo scan.
I checked a couple of weeks ago and it was as I said. Is it a permanent bug? Could be lag related due to being in empire. Also 90% of EVE uses giant cans in a hauler to increase capacity due to plank bubbles so that would mean 90% of EVE is safe from ganking as they can't tell what you have. So there is no need for a nerf now because people have an easy fix? You've just solved empire ganking. |
Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
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Posted - 2007.06.09 23:41:00 - [ 74]
I laugh at the n00b!
Hire -HsC- while travelling in Heimatar |
Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific |
Posted - 2007.06.10 00:28:00 - [ 75]
Originally by: SealteamXI
HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN!?
WHAT WAS CONCORD DOING?
How can this happen? Answer: It happens when the guy locks your ship, scans it, then blows it up to kingdom come, because you have allot of goodies in your hold. What was CONCORD doing? Answer: CONCORD was shooting the guy who shot you, they were punishing him for the hostile action against you. And some wisdom: Never, ever, ever, ever do - "happily flying Iteron IV" thing - with 600 million ISK worth of assets in it; someone will pop you even in Empire. CONCORD does not protect the innocent, CONCORD punishes the guilty, thats their job, nothing more, and nothing less. |
Hammer Judge
Southern Cross Incorporated
Angels Of Discord |
Posted - 2007.06.10 00:36:00 - [ 76]
Edited by: Hammer Judge on 10/06/2007 00:44:12This is such a good point. It should be in the Tutorial. Some players are just fooled into thinking 'high-sec' and Concord is analogous to safety, like a PvE World of Warcraft server. I've added a page here in my gamer newbie guide that has taken those 7 points of advice earlier. |
MehTheTrader
University of Caille |
Posted - 2007.06.10 00:46:00 - [ 77]
Since when do criminals get insurance back  |
Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific |
Posted - 2007.06.10 00:52:00 - [ 78]
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League |
Posted - 2007.06.10 01:01:00 - [ 79]
It's a bug / completely screwed up game mechanic that CONCORD disables every gun / ECM / targeting except drones, so people can use drone ships to suicide gank people in safe empire. Petition it ...
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Jaabaa
Minmatar
Dental Drilling Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:01:00 - [ 80]
Edited by: Jaabaa on 10/06/2007 01:00:52 Originally by: SealteamXI
so, happily flying my iteron IV through high sec, a .8 system. I go to warp to the next gate, next thing i know i am popped by a myrmidon, suicided on.
I lost 600mil. My total assets come to around 1bil. now 400mil.
HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN!?
WHAT WAS CONCORD DOING?
Is this an exploit? To completely ruin another player's 2 months hard work in a supposedly safe part of the game, surrounded by POLICE. EVERYWHERE.
Is there any way i can get my stuff back? This has completely ruined eve for me, i'm not sure if i'm going to renew my industrial account because i'm not sure if it's worth my time to build that cash back up.
Sorry, but  If i would have had 1 billion ISK after playing EVE 3 months from release, I think I would be emperor of 0.0 by now, especially if you take inflation into account  Don't expect any sympathy from us old farts, and go play something else. |
Nick Curso
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2007.06.10 01:03:00 - [ 81]
Edited by: Nick Curso on 10/06/2007 01:04:04
damn stop wingeing ive been playing neally 4 years and i have 20 mil im going to cancel my sub now thatks :'(
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Morhon
Amarr
Aegis Starship Enterprises |
Posted - 2007.06.10 01:27:00 - [ 82]
Edited by: Morhon on 10/06/2007 01:32:20Here is a thought; put your cargo in password protected giant secure contaniers. If u get scanned by people all they will see is containers and if they kill you all they will gain is containers they can't access  I have never been the victim of such a thing but the game does provide ways to avoid it if u cba to perpare for it. |
Gojyu
Ever Flow
Axiom Empire |
Posted - 2007.06.10 01:31:00 - [ 83]
Also, if you're transporting high cost low volume stuff such as implants, skillbooks, rigs or circuits try a different route entirely, pop them in an interceptor. I honestly can't see how it would be possible to be suicide ganked in one (you can't stick an interdicter bubble in high sec) |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2007.06.10 01:35:00 - [ 84]
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Arron S
Gallente
Soviet Directorate of Eve
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Posted - 2007.06.10 03:09:00 - [ 85]
Edited by: Arron S on 10/06/2007 03:09:51
i'd invest in a transport ship, Occators have a really good tank on them. But still *******s would still pop you, No matter what. Which is why I am no longer going to be selling battleships in empire to keep em out of the hands of hi-sec gankers..
I'd just move to low sec empire, Most Sucide gankers are to coward to go into low sec areas/ |
d026
temp holding
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Posted - 2007.06.10 03:51:00 - [ 86]
empire suicide ganking is just lame. im sorry for your loss. |
Warrio
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.06.10 04:01:00 - [ 87]
Who the hell suicide ganks in a Myrmidon? I mean, thats pretty much what the harbinger is made for. |
Herring
Caldari
Pimpology
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Posted - 2007.06.10 04:05:00 - [ 88]
Originally by: Marine Raider
Had the same thing happen to me a couple days ago. Flying 505mil worth of Mech Enge Datacores for sale and got ganked my a neutron II mega b/c I was slowboating to the gate. Stared at the screen for a couple of minutes, said oh well, closed EvE and went fishing.
^^ Listen to this dude, he's got the right attitude for the game. Loss is part of the game. Loss teaches you to adapt. You figure out what you did wrong, and start again. Oh and I've also found fishing to be a very very good eve alternative when you've just had enough for a bit. Fishing rocks. I even found some freshwater mussels when I went last time. Can you eat those? |
Raevenor
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.06.10 04:10:00 - [ 89]
Originally by: SealteamXI
so, happily flying my iteron IV through high sec, a .8 system. I go to warp to the next gate, next thing i know i am popped by a myrmidon, suicided on.
I lost 600mil. My total assets come to around 1bil. now 400mil.
HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN!?
WHAT WAS CONCORD DOING?
Is this an exploit? To completely ruin another player's 2 months hard work in a supposedly safe part of the game, surrounded by POLICE. EVERYWHERE.
Is there any way i can get my stuff back? This has completely ruined eve for me, i'm not sure if i'm going to renew my industrial account because i'm not sure if it's worth my time to build that cash back up.
Serves you right not using a scout. Sir you now the meaning of what it is, to be owned. |
Rilder
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2007.06.10 04:21:00 - [ 90]
Can't say I've been suicide ganked, yet, Though I'm infinite cheapskate and if you do gank me all your gonna get is t1 crap with the odd named, maybe a t2 if your really lucky, and I WTZ 90% of the time unless i'm in a ceptor with an AB and even then i'm at the controls, these are dark days in new-eden, have to be as careful as possible, even when carrying that module worth like 100k to fit on my Rokh...  Heck I haven't even been scanned yet, actually once while hanging with my corp m8's before a mission but we warped away right away before they could warp in there suicide ships... |
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