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Topic |
Demonor
Gallente
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2007.05.24 07:01:00 - [ 1]
Ok I forgot the full name of the mission I am at work hehe sorry. I am not sure if this has been brought up or not either worth a try to throw it out there. No this isnt a rant of any kind just wondering what you guys/gals would think. The Main big target in this mission is ZOR Now Zor can nail you at 150km+ woah ok how fun. But I noticed a few things One his bounty umm way low. Two His fire rate is pretty fast. I would say they should either decrease his fire rate just a tad or Increase his bounty. I know if you take out Zor first the missions is easy. But sometimes it takes abit to get setup correctly. because once he fires and hits you its a non stop BOOM BOOM BOOM. I would prefer an increase bounty on him. But less fire rate would be ok aswell. What you guys think. The Level 4 Mission if those who have done it. And please guys who have good skills Dont tell me you can do the mission with etc etc. We get it But I am saying for those who dont have such great skills and manage with what they have. Im gallente and fly both Caldari and Gallente ships. Its alot of work But Im willing to work with it. So what you guys think?  |
justcheckingthemarket |
Posted - 2007.05.24 07:40:00 - [ 2]
oh so you have crappy skills? --> let it be, fly lvl 3, fly courier missions, stop whining!!! |
Ghan Tylous |
Posted - 2007.05.24 07:58:00 - [ 3]
I would say: Stick to lvl 3s until your skills is better. Right Hand Of Z and Zor is just fine. |
Getschi
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.24 08:50:00 - [ 4]
Easy Mission  Go to Level 3 if you think its too hard!  |
Roy Gordon
Caldari
Caldari Advanced Response Division
Power Of 3 |
Posted - 2007.05.24 09:22:00 - [ 5]
I'm the first to admit I'm not the greatest mission runner in EvE, but, come on, if you dont fire on Zor, and leave his ship to last, this mission is one of the easiest lvl 4's there is! Even I can do this mission in under half an hour, and I dont have a faction fitted CNR, I use a Raven with arb torps/cruise. It takes me longer to loot and salvage this one!!! |
J'Mkarr Soban |
Posted - 2007.05.24 09:43:00 - [ 6]
Two things.
a) His range is about 150km, you're right. So shoot from 151+ maybe?
b) Get your skills up. I did this mission last night, just sat there at warp in, he may have fast cruise but mine are faster. Use thermal for him, then switch to kin for the rest.
Don't you read the IGB guide to the missions? It tells you all this before you even accept the mission...
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 10:35:00 - [ 7]
This Zazmatazz missions is one of the best and fastest: warp in, kill 3 ships (zor, malaci and 1 bodyguard) and 1 building, allign while doing so and war out as soon the building goes boom. somewhere around 5k lp in under 5 minuts ... and if you do it this way they don't have enuff time to harm you, which makes it easy (must kill the building as last caus then the frigs will approach you and if you stay for other ships after engaged the building you might get scrammed and will have to killed the frigs aswell). |
Rashmika Clavain
Gallente |
Posted - 2007.05.24 10:55:00 - [ 8]
Tank for heavy thermal damage (and the others), take the frigs and then take Zor. He drops fairly quickly, and since I adopted the above I've never had a problem with this mission. |
Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:23:00 - [ 9]
Hi, Yeah, you might lack skill points, but i suspect its you setup that needs a bit of tweaking or the way you handle the mission. Some mention you should attack Zor last, sounds like a good idea. Aggro control is allways a good thing  . What is your setup at present. We might be able to give you a point or two on that (and a lot will bragging about their über l33t faction p0wz0r setup, just try to ignore them). Since Zor deals therm damage (and a lot of it), that should be set as high priority. I also think kin and explosive should be rather high, as (iirc) most rats are angles here. If there is a Maller (some girls name) then she must go first, as your resistance to EM will be low. Hope some of this can help you. |
XenoPagan |
Posted - 2007.05.24 12:11:00 - [ 10]
Edited by: XenoPagan on 24/05/2007 12:11:27
I just shoot and kill everything and leave Zor last. With decent tank this mission is walk in the park. Tho I fly amarr Abaddon, so I can't really suggest anything on caldari/gallente part...
edit:
ah, btw trouble rises when you do this mission in a gang with a friend- one guy will be warped right into the middle of the hornet nest and it can get very painful. so when in gang, warp in first and let other follow to you
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Red Rumurder
5punkorp
EternalRising |
Posted - 2007.05.24 12:49:00 - [ 11]
warp in at 70km if possible (at work and been over a week since i have run that mission so please forgive in any inaccuracies)
take out cruisers first (no matter what the mission 90% of time these are your dps guys) then work on your bs and frigs at same time.
i run missions in cnr now but even in my regular raven i had no major issues following that method above and using right tank hardners and ammo. if you are using the same setups as others use for this mission then work on your sp.
this may cause a debate but i am from the school of better tank than damage for missions. so what if u can pop a bs in 4 volleys when 2 volleys from the swarm pops you. be able to tank the initial attack or your golden.
remember you can always delcine the mission before accepting and no issues. to be honest you get nothing special from it. |
Egil Kolsto
Caldari
Collwood Collective
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:51:00 - [ 12]
I remeber this one well.
I started level 4s much too soon and was forced to use a Ferox while I was still skilling up. It tanked Gurista EA with ease so I thought Right Hand was worth a shot.
When you use the "proper" ship (aka BS/Raven/CNR) take out Zazz first as his DPS is pretty decent and he dies fast.
When undersized, I always took out everything else first. Since the plan is to warp when hurt, take out the jammers/webbers first. The work your way UP. It worked for me, much to the amusement of my friend who flew a Raven at the time with much higher skills than me.
Now, every time I run this mission it is with glee I take out Zor first! Zor is one of the harder hitting rats but he is by far difficult to kill. Wait until you get Vengeance! |
Enduros
Desard's Nation
Cha0s Theory |
Posted - 2007.05.24 15:19:00 - [ 13]
Edited by: Enduros on 24/05/2007 15:20:14
Only things mercs do good is hurt people. The tank they have is laughable, that includes Zor. They don't even hurt much when they are far... Zor is pretty much only ranged merc.
Once they are in range however... the damage from them is just sick.
What I'm trying to say is if you can't really hack it stay away from mercs. More often then not high dps is a better tank vs mercs, then an actual tank.
<edit>Oh yea.. as for bounty.. mercs got the best loot by far on missions, only ones that still drop "loot". So before you whine about low bounty go check the loot first, s'good</edit> |
Dr Shameless
2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad
Majesta Empire |
Posted - 2007.05.24 16:57:00 - [ 14]
just kill zor first, i can clear the stage in 10mins with abaddon/tempest |
Demonor
Gallente
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2007.05.25 16:22:00 - [ 15]
see thats the thing all of sudden people think I am whinning whatever all I said was maybe reduce his fire rate or increase his bounty? geez you people seriously need to get a grip. and To behonest I have done most of the lvl 4 missions including this 4 times Just thought I would throw something out there didnt think all the gunho mighty will chop this thread in pieces pfft. I mean even the Stupid Pith Eliminator and Destroyers have more bounty then him. anywho Just dump this thread in the trash make it seem it doesnt exist.  |
Durn Loze |
Posted - 2007.05.25 20:17:00 - [ 16]
Edited by: Durn Loze on 25/05/2007 20:17:06 Originally by: Demonor
see thats the thing all of sudden people think I am whinning whatever all I said was maybe reduce his fire rate or increase his bounty? geez you people seriously need to get a grip. and To behonest I have done most of the lvl 4 missions including this 4 times Just thought I would throw something out there didnt think all the gunho mighty will chop this thread in pieces pfft. I mean even the Stupid Pith Eliminator and Destroyers have more bounty then him. anywho Just dump this thread in the trash make it seem it doesnt exist.
I think people react that way due to a fundamental shift in the way people view problems in MMO's these days. It used to be that if people couldn't do something in a game, they would ask for help in how to adjust their tactics to defeat the game. Even when content was bugged it would be a long time before anyone asked for a fix because they would assume there was some way to win and would exhaust every possible strategy before giving up and asking the devs to change it. Now, it seems so many MMO player first look at changing the game when they run into a particularly difficult situation. When that becomes the norm it ruins a game as it gets watered down to the lowest common denominator. In other words it gets too easy. It's a shame really that I see EVE even being affected by this syndrome too. (just came back to EVE recently.) It is one of the few online games out there that could still be considered hard and its starting to lose that edge a little. My question to you would be why didn't you ask for advice first in how to adjust you tactics to win this mission rather than suggesting a change that would reduce the damage of an NPC? |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2007.05.26 00:36:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Dr Shameless
just kill zor first, i can clear the stage in 10mins with abaddon/tempest
Yup Zor needs to die first, then the guy in the machariel. They deal 50% of the entire spawns DPS. |
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