Posted - 2007.05.11 11:15:00 - [2]

 

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:22:00 - [4]

 

3rd in an epic thread.

i think bob were fighting for the cookies from the beginning, but didnt realise we stole them

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:23:00 - [6]

 

the war is far from over, oh brave goon alt :)

there's months of fighting yet to be had, don't worry!

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:25:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: DeadProphet

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the war is far from over, oh brave goon alt :)

there's months of fighting yet to be had, don't worry!

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Oh ty sir, i have been called d2 alt, bob alt, many alts. But never had goon pleasure. Ty. FYI i am just a pirate in pure blind region killing MC/pets.

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:31:00 - [10]

 

Originally by: Rennard

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You need to go primary school again, because you cannot argue properly.

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Says the guy who reckons Titans 1 hour cooldown wasnt nerf'd cause it would ruin BoB.

\o/ awsome stuff more posts like your op pls ;)

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:35:00 - [12]

 

Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 11/05/2007 11:32:18
the titan thingy aside there is some truth in here but the war is far from beeing over.

bob is just one of the best alliances. they learn from their mistakes much faster than everybody else. they seem to be masters at social engineering and fleet battles. if they weren't always the winning side i would probably try to join them but joining the winning side is for loosers =P

the real cool guys are the ones who fight the strongest.

its a moral thingy and a matter of fun that i always join the loosing side in every game. afterwards IF you have won with the loosing side, the victory is much more intense and special then the victory would have been if you have fought and won at the winning side. consider this all you "winning side horay prayers" :D you are all missing the real fun.

p.s. this eve war bores me. cant we have total anarchy in eve? just a little slaughter like FFA on the test servers ;D

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:39:00 - [14]

 

OMFGZ, BOB has won the war.. THE END IS NEEEAAAR!!!!

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:56:00 - [16]

 

Edited by: V4MPIRELLA on 11/05/2007 11:56:02
I have to accept that BOB do a marvellous thing that they make their residents Slave and called them 'Pets' that all of their slaves are proud now to be a pet of their overlord.

In a social observation physcologists saw that people whom leave under a great dictatorate become real slave of it that they cannot leave without of it. Instead of accepting leaving without their freedom is a loss in their life they always declare they love their landlords and to be a slave of that feudalism is their reason in their life and later on they were became the Fanatics of the Dictator that Dictators at that point did not need to send troops on freedom fighters because they know now their slave will start a witchhunt against the Freedom fighters.

All i wrote above is from the Real Life History of the age of feudalism and also Dictatorship countries on management.

I somewhat make a relation between these real life statements to EVE.

What are you thingking about this ?

Posted - 2007.05.11 11:57:00 - [18]

 

So the titan saved us did it, i must need my eye's testing because i could have sworn we have had loads of fleetbattle's without titan's on the field, especially just recently. Seems to me it's more about the coalition not having the stone's to fight with everything they have on the table.

I believe the deciding factor in all this will be the passion. When all of eve screamed for our death and blobbed up on the monsterblob train of doom, we didnt shy away from battle, we embraced it. We took some bloody noses, adapted and overcome. That one thing in particular seems to be something the coalition seem's unable to do .

Posted - 2007.05.11 12:04:00 - [20]

 

You totally failed with your intel cos Goons are already dead since they left Syndicate !

Posted - 2007.05.11 12:10:00 - [22]

 

I think the OP is right. BoB has been allowed to pick off it's enemies 1 by 1. Its current enemies from what I can see will stretch the war out longer than ASCN did, but that's about it. Unless there is a more united front from a number of alliances, taking it to Bob on multiple fronts...well...

I would also note that BoB has MC. I see nothing in BoB's enemies that rivals them for pure pvp that they can call upon to mount a side offensive. Ultimately I believe BoB wants this more than anyone else and that's why they will continue on obliterating alliance after alliance. The only question for me is how many alliances will fold before there is a cleverer united front, if it all?

By the way I'm not a BoB fanboy, this is just the way I see it.

Posted - 2007.05.11 12:27:00 - [24]

 

Originally by: fire 59

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Ok , a good example of what you said for you. When we sieged c3- ages ago, the goons had 300+, we were 100 ish . We sieged and they attacked with there monster blob. We killed nearly every single one of them in a systemm wide battle, at there pos under THERE guns and even managed to kill a cap or 2 of theres.

And that was without using a dd.

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Well yes you have some skills of course, and more T2 pilots then anyone else in game. Of course you play EVE more then a casual player too. There is no doubt an experience difference. But in long run I think you would be overwhelmed pretty quickly.

Posted - 2007.05.11 12:48:00 - [26]

 

Originally by: fire 59

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Originally by: Rennard

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Originally by: fire 59

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Ok , a good example of what you said for you. When we sieged c3- ages ago, the goons had 300+, we were 100 ish . We sieged and they attacked with there monster blob. We killed nearly every single one of them in a systemm wide battle, at there pos under THERE guns and even managed to kill a cap or 2 of theres.

And that was without using a dd.

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Well yes you have some skills of course, and more T2 pilots then anyone else in game. Of course you play EVE more then a casual player too. There is no doubt an experience difference. But in long run I think you would be overwhelmed pretty quickly.

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It is possible of course we could meet a challenge of numbers that realy pushed us up a gear but i don't think it would overwhelm, well, maybe to a point. It's hard to explain to someone who isn't in bob but when we meet a fight when thing's are on the line and it look's bleak, people seem to step up a gear, support works it beautiful craft and the bs throw lead across the void. All the while our fc's and commander's plot on how to outmanuvere or whittle away the enemy to the point where number's don't matter anymore, we warp in close and rout them.

Seen it happen many times, most memorable was 30-40 bobs vs 150 ascn in h8- i think in the early hours. doing hit and run's, fighting and picking off targets until our forces were too whittled to continue. How many on the coalition side can say that they would do the same ?

At the end of the day, win or lose, i hope this war lasts for alot longer because it has been fun. Cap vs cap fight's are a different monster entirely and i love it

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And what will you do when noone will fight you anymore?

Posted - 2007.05.11 13:33:00 - [28]

 

Originally by: Rennard

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* So you say you could do it without help of pets called as "allies" in last 3 months? I am excluding the ones that joined your side after war started, they came just to take a piece of space by using you.

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It is funny how each action is tainted from the point of view of the person explainin what happend.

I must say that I don't know if they used us, or we used them, but I don't care really as I am having fun, I am earnings some isks in Fade, doing some fights and having a great time.

By the way, you are talking about Goons being so great. I would say Goons are cheap muscle to add to the coalition train, because Goons on their own have nothing to do on the game. The only interest of having Goons on your side is to be sure that you can out-Blob people. I prefer 100 times when I have a small enganment says 10vs10 and the match is played with skill and thought and not just sheer numbers and no skill.

Anyway, good luck to everyone in the war and keep it fun and corteus. (Or however you would say it).

Posted - 2007.05.11 13:44:00 - [30]

 

Originally by: Rennard

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So, the war seem lost for the coalition. What can I say?

* What won the war?

1. Before the war noone expected Titans would be this powerful. 1 hour cooldown is stupid design. Devs didn't nerf it because they knew it would be end of BOB.

2. BOB feared to lose pets and turned strategy, before they themselves were calling them "pets", now they are calling them "allies" and praising them in every thread possible. This kept pets motivated, they forgot they have been called pets before. Intelligent move.

3. BOB realised that forum whoring and bragging attracts anti-BOB movements, they stop posting forums, avoid making potential enemies. Intelligent move.

* What will happen now?

1. EVE is coming to an era like Starwars Rebellion, which is also fun for rebel side. You will be playing Empire/Rebel scenario all around.

2. BOB will reset standings after they kill RAGOON.

3. Titans will ruin the game if not nerfed soon. By the end of summer, there will be 50+ titans in game. People will build more and more, until all EVE gives up fleet battles.

All truth, nothing more, nothing less.

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What won the war:

1. Okay on this point, BoB has not been kept alive by the titans. Yes they have done considerable damage, but it isn't the titans in themselves. What kept BoB alive was starting a the time that the BoB Cap Shipyards were attacked CCP has enforced a 700 limit without giving any warning after the LV1V battle. It is this limit in conjunction with BoB's titans that really swayed the war in such a way as it stands now.

2 & 3 are good points however we are seeing more and more chest beating from BoB lately and most likely this will once again stir the anti BoB forces.

What will happen now:

1. Hmm that's only accurate if someone actually controls most of 0.0, I don't see that happening.

2. Much like before I do not belive BoB can kill RA/Goons. It is why they attacked the North with MC rather than attacking the greater danger which was RA. I don't believe they will be successful in removing RA or GOONS from 0.0.

3. Yes the Titan will most likely be nerfed in the future. It would be nice to see it occur in Revelations 2. It needs either a siege mode and/or the removal of a remote detonation capability. (Ideally they need to convert its area of effect weapon into a single target weapon of massive power, it would go more to fighting the blobs than any current strategy.)