Posted - 2007.03.02 19:25:00 - [62]

 

I thought I would take the time to point out a few things:

1) 0.0 Alliance pilots set up a bubble camp its legitimate tactics, if PA set up a gate camp, its cowardice
2) 0.0 Pilots gank a few haulers in 0.0 its disruption of enemy supplies, if PA do it its cowardice
3) If 0.0 pilots use nanoships its fine as they serve a purpose, if PA use them they are cowards and exploiting game mechanics
4) If a station camp is set up in 0.0 its locking your enemy into place, if PA do it its griefing
5) If 0.0 pilots enter station in order to decline engagement its tactics, if PA do it its cowardice

Shall I continue to point out the hypocrisy? Or have you got the picture yet?

If you dont like them, avoid them, or kill them. To be frank though many of the so called elite PvP pilots in 0.0 use exactly the same tactics and tricks as PA pilots do in Empire. The difference is, because 0.0 pilots are all ultra elite and real PvP'ers they are real tactics, because PA have taken the supposedly soft option its griefing, cowardice and general ganking.

Go figure.

Posted - 2007.03.02 19:34:00 - [64]

 

Originally by: Natalia Trade

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Although I have been playing a few months and have quite a few skills, I am in no way ready for PVP, I can fit and I do use most all t2 items, I have some real good combat skills, but I am no where close to people that have 6 months or more on me in skill training time. Although I know I am not ready to fight yet by meself, it is ultimately up to me when I get ready to go and fight, not some jugghead who thinks I am a carebear for not wanting to go to 0.0 and fight until I am ready. Call me a Carebear, n00b, whiner, whatever, point blank and simple my character is no where near ready to go and duke it out yet, let alone fight off these "High Sec Pirates" (Privateer Alliance)

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The best advise anyone can give you is to try things before posting opinions on the forums. So follow these 2 steps.

1. "TRY" pvp out (tech 1 ship/parts to start)
2. "TRY" 0.0 out and see if it's as hard as you seem "think" it is


I was in 0.0 pvping with less than 1/4 of the SP you have. This game is 90% player skills and 10% SP. Player skills you can gain much faster then SP.

It works much like:
lose a firgate lesson learned
lose a cruiser lesson learned
lose a battlecruiser lesson learned
lose a battleship lesson learned

If you notice a trend here it's that in the process of learning your going to die...a lot...and this happens to everyone....thus it's called a game.

If you sit there and say how your not ready then how long before you convince yourself you need a carrier/ dreadnaught to be in 0.0.

Posted - 2007.03.02 19:38:00 - [66]

 

The op really has two distinct points, 1) 0.0 living/PvP 2) Privateers. Let me address each:

1) I started playing Eve Dec 13, with literally no knowledge about the game, its mechanics, anything. None of my RL friends play it. I have been living in 0.0 since the 3rd day of my existence. I was literally mining in a Bantam in 0.0...deep in 0.0. Perhaps my complete lack of knowledge explains why the danger didn't bother me.

I have PvP'd since the beginning as well, you really don't need elite skills to be an effective part of a team. Can you get in a frig, scramble a target and damp them?! If so you can really contribute to the blob warefare of 0.0. Sure you won't be out there dealing huge DPS, but you can certainly contribute to a fleet.

2) Privateers make empire an interesting place, as an hardened 0.0 player being careful in empire is second nature, and doesnt really effect my personal playing style. I have seen some very good and skilled PvP players in the privateers who most certainly have a lot of 0.0 experience given their tactics. Other privateers are better at smack than at flying...in fact it seems that the better the player, the less the smack! Just like any 0.0 alliance to be honest.

IMHO the privateers play an important role in the world of Eve, I for one hope they don't let their War Dec with Frege lapse for too long...

Posted - 2007.03.02 22:06:00 - [68]

 

Edited by: Redpants on 02/03/2007 22:10:38
Why do you people keep thinking that CCP needs to constantly tweak game mechanics that have existed since the beginning? Are you foolish enough to think that CCP is that nearsighted? That they don't see down the road for every decision they make in this game for possible exploits and in game affects?

The only reason you're hearing about this alliance right now is because the ones being targeted are high sec dwellers. I bet that PA is not a record holder for most wars at one time and if they are so be it. If they had 100 war decs on low sec/0.0 alliances you wouldn't hear a peep on these forums about them.

So outside of PA, can somebody give a decent reason that CCP should limit wars? Better yet, can somebody give any justification why CONCORD would limit wars? Wars are CONCORD sactioned remember and this should have less to do with CCP out of game than the in game world.

This is a case where the squeaky wheel should not get the oil. There should not be war dec limits. If a corp or alliance can pay to wardec the entire galaxy then let them. The entire galaxy can fight back you know. Maybe you forgot how to activate your high slots and defend yourselves or (gasp) actually go on the offensive and fight back. And if you're alliance can't fight back then consider PA doing you a favor and getting you up to speed with PVP.

You're not playing EvE to PVP you say? Then you're missing the vital reality of the EvE universe from day 1 and you should go back to your safe nonPVP servers in your previous MMO.

So everybody crying about PA should quickly realize you're not safe anywhere in this game, 1.0 or not, wardec or not. No go off and enjoy this game, it's not WOW.

Posted - 2007.03.02 23:44:00 - [70]

 

Edited by: Gift on 02/03/2007 23:40:31

Originally by: Garrett Smith

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Hehehe, only Privateers I ever see are cowering in station. All ya gotta do is make a hauling alt which takes a couple hours and laugh as u go by them w/ your 100mill load of mins.

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Your problem is most likely you log off the second you hear of a PA fleet near by & are only brave enough to stay logged in if you know the PA pilots are docked. Ain't that the 0.0 way?

Posted - 2007.03.03 00:43:00 - [72]

 

Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 03/03/2007 00:43:20

Originally by: Hellaciouss

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Yah, they sure looked pretty far down the road when they tweaked the nano's/istabs.

The war dec system will eventually be tweaked, I'm sure of it.

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Thats todays alliance warfare ... wars are won on the forums.

If you cannot cope with something, its surely unbalanced, lame and an exploit that CCP will fix soon.

Warriors got out of fashion during the US Civil War, and now the guys from the logistic department got outclassed by the lobbyist ... eve <=> RL ....

Posted - 2007.03.03 05:03:00 - [74]

 

Privateers are not a joke you troll, i like playing EVE with them.

Posted - 2007.03.03 05:33:00 - [76]

 

Originally by: Natalia Trade

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Stuff

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Well I think the Amarr Trading Company Inc. is a joke. So there.

Posted - 2007.03.03 11:29:00 - [78]

 

Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Cown

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haha

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Now that's the sort of Nonsense you have to put up with when dealing with the PA.

I've actually seen these guys (PA) pirating in low sec in The Forge, even with the countless war targets they have, they still pirate in low sec.

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omg, are you seriouse? do they still pirate in low-sec even thou they've got wartargets everywhere?
the shame

Posted - 2007.03.03 11:47:00 - [80]

 

I agree Amarr Trading Company Inc. is a joke.

Apparantly some of you in your years of education have failed to grasp the english language, I never said that I had not been to 0.0, I never said that I had not engaged in any PVP, I never said I was a solo player, I have been to 0.0, I have PVP'd, and I daily play with my corpmates and friends.

I dont think 0.0 is that hot, for my skills I cant run Cosmos missions that well with my friends without having to warp out, even with my Fully fitted t2 tier 2 Battlecruiser, I have PVP'd and I know I need more skill training to make my weapons hit harder and do more damage, I am not afraid to lose a ship, 5 ships or 10 ships, it happens and it is no big deal, easily replaced.

What I am saying is that it is cheap for the Privateer Alliance to sit in 1.0 and grief people, if they want to grief go to 0.0 and grief people, instead of helping Goon, D2, and RA clear out the cancer of BoD and LV they are griefing people in high sec who dont want to play the PVP game, what a noble gesture and good deed to help keep the game alive.

Where did it say when I signed up to pay to play EVE that I was required to PVP, and move to low sec? What if my friends and I like to PVE, mine, invent, and scan out hidden complexes for our fun? Why must we conform to what you think EVE is? Whay cant we make EVE what we want EVE to be? Where is this written that I must play the game your way?

If you want to war, war, if you want to engage in the biggest aventure in low sec do so, if you want to PVP have at it, but dont act like the high sec bully and then say your not, dont compare real PVP players to Pirateteers who exploit the war dec mechanic, if I pettitioned every person that placed a can 0km away from the undock point in Amarr CCP would be reading the petitions this time next year. Every time I undock I bounce around for 5 minutes befor I can get free, if I dont have to dock first and try it again.

So I have been to 0.0 with lots of my friends, ran the cosmos missions, mined the bistot and arknor, ratted the belts, and engaged in PVP, but I enjoy low sec 0.2-0.4 and empire 0.5-0.7 more than I enjoy 0.0, I have lots of friends both in my corp and not in my corp, but I have to say without skills and support skills your character is not worth much the first 1-2 months.

So you people need to read and comprehend a post before you start your replies, and then have an open mind and clear out the cobwebs every now and again.

P.S. I would be willing to go and help in the big EVE war on the Goon side, provided you guys replace the ships I lose, but who do I contact ?

Posted - 2007.07.15 20:34:00 - [82]

 

You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.

Posted - 2007.07.15 20:38:00 - [84]

 

Edited by: The Hooch on 15/07/2007 20:38:32

Originally by: nickycakes

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Originally by: The Hooch

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You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.

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Back or not, you're still the biggest joke to ever hit eve. I don't see this changing....ever.

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And my thoughts on Band of BooBs is well know too, so how is you war in the east going?

Joke or not what we do pays our bills and we keep on going, just like BoB, only we are honest about what we are...

Posted - 2007.07.15 21:08:00 - [86]

 

Originally by: Mang0o

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I think you should make a book about your life, and try to sell it on ebay

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How about a short story? Its about a Goon hauler that got bagged right before the war ended with a little over 230 million worth of assets that did not go boom, if all the loot had made it, it would have been closer to 600 million. It has drama and a happy ending.

Posted - 2007.07.15 22:25:00 - [88]

 

Originally by: nickycakes

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Originally by: The Hooch

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You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.

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Back or not, you're still the biggest joke to ever hit eve. I don't see this changing....ever.

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You're so ****ing awesome Nickycakes, I just want you to know that

Posted - 2007.07.15 22:35:00 - [90]

 

Originally by: nickycakes

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Back or not, you're still the biggest joke to ever hit eve. I don't see this changing....ever.

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Are you sure nickycakes dear? I would have thought you held that position for those guys that keep killing your super caps

But yes...this is a necro