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Bon Ali
Caldari
Bon's Ecological Recycling
Posted - 2007.03.02 01:28:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
Did someone say "tenant"?

Did someone say "FIX"?

ps, if you are wondering why Armois Delgato is so whinny in goonie threads all the time, check his corp history. Woops.

Erlandil
Caldari
JBX Corp
Posted - 2007.03.02 01:33:00 - [152]
 

*Snip* please keep RL political and military action out of CAOD - thanks hutch

Katharina Gorbacheva
Amarr
Soviet Star Federation
Posted - 2007.03.02 01:50:00 - [153]
 

*Snip* please keep RL political and military action out of CAOD - thanks hutch

Slayton Ford
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.03.02 01:53:00 - [154]
 

*Snip* please keep RL political and military action out of CAOD - thanks hutch

Jonny Damordred
Gallente
Moira.
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.03.02 03:50:00 - [155]
 

Out with the old boss, in with the new...

Cheers,
Jonny D.

Vile rat
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.03.02 05:38:00 - [156]
 

As has been said repetedly if your corp is +5 to us you can use our space. You may mine any rock, shoot any rat, sell or buy in our markets, put up gigantic can art of space dongs or whatever.

If you are not an existing ally who has fought with us to open this space up then we ask you contribute to the project in a substantial way.

What is substantial? A small amount of fuel that will be used to keep the system available. We are not asking for cash and we are not asking for more than is required to enable this project to continue (GS space as has been pointed out TCF have different rules for their space.) The cost is easilly affordable by even small corps.

If you are an interested corporation I would be happy to answer all of your questions in game via Evemail.

Also wow you guys are trying really hard to troll the hell out of this thread. The battlefield is over there, lets keep it there ok?

maarud
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.03.02 06:57:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Vile rat

Also wow you guys are trying really hard to troll the hell out of this thread. The battlefield is over there, lets keep it there ok?


Wow thats rich... Rolling EyesShockedLaughing

Ackaroth
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
Posted - 2007.03.02 07:29:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: prathe
does this mean i can finnally retrieve the wolf i left in cj-6 like 1yr and a half ago?



Haha agreed. I have soo much stuff left in Immensea and detorid from the old days of Chimera Pact.

Treebeard dk
Caldari
M. Corp
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2007.03.02 08:20:00 - [159]
 

Edited by: Treebeard dk on 02/03/2007 08:23:56
I find it funny that its all +5 allies that have fought with you to open up the zone that will be allowed to mine, rat, trade in it, as previously mentioned, this is no different from what everyone else is doing, you say all your allies can do it, those allies you so warmly invite, already own their own space, why would they come mine in your free zone? Name an alliance that have been fighting with you that dont already own their own space? It may sound good but only thing that would make me consider it a new thing was if you opened up the space for everyone, anything else is just the same.

ISD Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc


Minmatar
ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:01:00 - [160]
 

Cleaned,

Please keep RL politics out of CAOD, they will only pull things off topic.


Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness.
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:48:00 - [161]
 

Very nice news indeed! Visiting you as soon as today to start selling stuff.

mamolian
Gallente
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:02:00 - [162]
 

Edited by: mamolian on 02/03/2007 11:01:22
Originally by: Red Gabba
Edited by: Red Gabba on 02/03/2007 01:23:28
Originally by: Aaron Static
Originally by: Red Gabba
Originally by: The Mittani






More likely they will sit docked all day while a hostile is in local. "There problem" you might say but how do you expect people to stay in system if you will not police it?




red... don't.

You dont know what you're talking about so jus stay quiet :P

Goons do a great job and most current tenants enjoy helping out with defense.. because Goons are a really fun bunch to fly with.


Hmmm i think i do know what im talking about and if i feel like asking i will, but a answer from a Goon Pet will do Aaron.. and since when do you get to tell me to stay quiet?


Laughing That was nice red ;) Aaron must be on some psychotropic drugs.. hes never really been on the same page..

As for the rest of the thread.. folks just see through the BS ;) Nothing changes apart from who gets the refining minerals.. and realise this is the peak ;) its all down hill from here.. the decay.. the swapping of pvpers for useless and selfish carebear types, until the next "coalition" comes for your soul.

Free trade zone my ass.. you guys need to work on your "spin" Very Happy

Banlish
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:36:00 - [163]
 

Hrm a few thoughts:


1. It lets Goons and TCF develop their space while they are fighting at the same time. They don't have time to mine so their ppl in the Free Trade Zone do it.

Um, just because their fighting a war doesn't mean they have to be stupid. It's a smart economic AND military move. If they can't stock their own markets because their fighting further south then why not let corps come in and do it for them.

2. Why can't small corps join up, we're under 50 players, yet we were told to go away.

Someone touched upon this before, just make a Goon and TCF FTZ alliance (seperate alliance for each), let ppl join that, it has all the correct standings since Goons or TCF control the holding corp. The small corps get to use the alliance channel as their intel channel and Goons/TCF can use it to collect their weekly/monthly fees through it.

3. There is a list of materials to be delivered per week to our stations, it is X,Y and Z POS fuels.

One word of advice, offer ppl two options. 1. They can deliver the POS fuels listed per week OR they can pay double their cost per week. Either way you win, they'll other bring you the POS fuels, or mine harder for more taxes.


4. This is just Goons/TCF doing the same exact things BoB/D2/and every alliance in the game does.

Somewhat, their fees are less, they aren't making ppl defend and have said outright "at your own risk"


The one thing I'm seeing that has only been touched upon by a few ppl in a sentence or two here and there, this is a great way for them to offer something concrete to LV/BoB residents. And I don't mean that as "come join us, help destrying the ebil BoB's" of any of that BS everyone is so angrily(sp?) spouting these days.

It's pure and simple economics. These fees are extremely low, Goons and TCF don't have to approach the current residents in BoB space. These costs should make some of those entities approach them instead. Maybe it won't happen, I'm not trying to turn it into a "Zomg, they should run to Goons/TCF space to help kill BoB" So please leave that crap out of it.

But, the costs are lower and the space is some of the best 0.0 in the game. Maybe through sheer availibity as well as lower costs we'll see some ppl pack their bags and go to this 'newer open space'. Whether Goons/TCF want to allow resident corps and alliances from BoB and LV to come in as this war progresses is up to them however.


Vile rat
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:52:00 - [164]
 

We will accept smaller corps now. I really wish they would give you more than 300 corp to corp standings or allow you to set docking rights to an alliance Sad

If you are a smaller corp and would like to discuss the Free trade zone please mail me in game and I'd be happy to answer all of your questions.

Johnny ReeRee
Caldari
The ReeRee Brigade
Posted - 2007.03.02 13:32:00 - [165]
 

The upside of this is that now we don't have to hear any more of this boring chatter about BoB pets, BoB slaves, or whatever else. The Goonie terms are worse! Hauling ice? ROFL! If the Goonie pet project does nothing else, it will have made COAD a better place!

Thanks Goonies!

derp derp derp!

Veronique deEstelle
Gallente
3M Industries
Posted - 2007.03.02 20:11:00 - [166]
 

All that is missing now is a corp specialised in delivering POS-fuel and everbody is happy.

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.03.02 20:22:00 - [167]
 

See you soon with an army of black lance pilots in corvetors, hulks carriers and other miningmachines.....

Weatherman
Gallente
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2007.03.02 22:03:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Vile rat
As has been said repetedly if your corp is +5 to us you can use our space. You may mine any rock, shoot any rat, sell or buy in our markets, put up gigantic can art of space dongs or whatever.

If you are not an existing ally who has fought with us to open this space up then we ask you contribute to the project in a substantial way.

What is substantial? A small amount of fuel that will be used to keep the system available. We are not asking for cash and we are not asking for more than is required to enable this project to continue (GS space as has been pointed out TCF have different rules for their space.) The cost is easilly affordable by even small corps.

If you are an interested corporation I would be happy to answer all of your questions in game via Evemail.

Also wow you guys are trying really hard to troll the hell out of this thread. The battlefield is over there, lets keep it there ok?



You do realize that getting your fuel for you and hauling it into 0.0 without goon protection is actually prolly much harder than just giving you isk right? BoB don't even do that lol. I would consider someone who does that for you to qualify as a slave. And I don't think people are trolling so much as basking in the blatant hypocrisy. It amuses me greatly.

Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
Sherwood Forest
Posted - 2007.03.02 22:35:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: Swift Wind on 02/03/2007 22:31:42
Originally by: Veronique deEstelle
All that is missing now is a corp specialised in delivering POS-fuel and everbody is happy.


Anywhere, Anytime ... Just convo.... :O)

Valen L'eganas
Gallente
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2007.03.03 11:26:00 - [170]
 

You guys mind watching my stuff there? I still have some left at the good ol' 1V- station. Ah... the good times.... Crying or Very sad sniff...

Mourning Starr
Gallente
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.03.03 11:45:00 - [171]
 

Thanks for providing such a target rich environment.

Tien Matsuko
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2007.03.03 12:13:00 - [172]
 

*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Sahwoolo Etoophie (mods@ccpgames.com)

Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.03 12:17:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Tien Matsuko
*snip*



Best I post with my main huh?

Jinnigan
Minmatar
Poon Fleet
Posted - 2007.03.06 18:03:00 - [174]
 

This thread is just a million iterations of a few different viewpoints.

1. This is the same as ISS even though it's not. It won't work.

2. We have to be friendly to you, AND pay a fee, AND pay taxes?! That's not free! If I wanted to live in the real world, I'd move out of my parents' house.

3. I don't just want to take advantage of the rich resources you fought to gain control of. I also want you to hold my hand and defend me from mean people.

4. Your useage terms are much better, you don't require us to defend your space, and your fees and taxes are a lot more reasonable than BoB's. It's still exactly what BoB is doing. You're a bunch of hypocrite ***s.

5. Other people do this same thing, so you're not special. I stumbled into this thread by accident while perusing the pudding stains on my shirt. I swear, this one here looks exactly like Boba Fett!

6. My LK membership carries a requisite of three whiny posts in Goon related threads per week. I'm going for extra credit.

7. I'm an awesome ganker, so I guess this means I get to traipse into GS/TCF space and pwn n00bs! I doubt they'd bother engaging ganking asshats in their own territory.

Dao 2
Gallente
Thenta-Makur
Posted - 2007.03.06 18:17:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Jinnigan
This thread is just a million iterations of a few different viewpoints.

1. This is the same as ISS even though it's not. It won't work.

2. We have to be friendly to you, AND pay a fee, AND pay taxes?! That's not free! If I wanted to live in the real world, I'd move out of my parents' house.

3. I don't just want to take advantage of the rich resources you fought to gain control of. I also want you to hold my hand and defend me from mean people.

4. Your useage terms are much better, you don't require us to defend your space, and your fees and taxes are a lot more reasonable than BoB's. It's still exactly what BoB is doing. You're a bunch of hypocrite ***s.

5. Other people do this same thing, so you're not special. I stumbled into this thread by accident while perusing the pudding stains on my shirt. I swear, this one here looks exactly like Boba Fett!

6. My LK membership carries a requisite of three whiny posts in Goon related threads per week. I'm going for extra credit.

7. I'm an awesome ganker, so I guess this means I get to traipse into GS/TCF space and pwn n00bs! I doubt they'd bother engaging ganking asshats in their own territory.


slight difference ;p

theyre not looking to make a profit here :| ;p

and the fee is minimal as long as u can get the fuel up (carriers ftw ;p) and they said "low-tax", i dunno how much theyre tax is but 10% is pretty much standard in .0 so if they have less all the better ;p Even in npc space u pay the tax so o_0

Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2007.03.06 18:34:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Vile rat
As has been said repetedly if your corp is +5 to us you can use our space. You may mine any rock, shoot any rat, sell or buy in our markets, put up gigantic can art of space dongs or whatever.

If you are not an existing ally who has fought with us to open this space up then we ask you contribute to the project in a substantial way.

What is substantial? A small amount of fuel that will be used to keep the system available. We are not asking for cash and we are not asking for more than is required to enable this project to continue (GS space as has been pointed out TCF have different rules for their space.) The cost is easilly affordable by even small corps.

If you are an interested corporation I would be happy to answer all of your questions in game via Evemail.

Also wow you guys are trying really hard to troll the hell out of this thread. The battlefield is over there, lets keep it there ok?


Translation: We want you to pay for living here, not in isk but in supplies (like there is a difference) and if any member of our alliance tells you to leave a belt because that officer just spawned, leave and let him kill it. Gotcha.

Jinnigan
Minmatar
Poon Fleet
Posted - 2007.03.06 19:00:00 - [177]
 

Edited by: Jinnigan on 06/03/2007 19:03:54
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Translation: We want you to pay for living here, not in isk but in supplies (like there is a difference) and if any member of our alliance tells you to leave a belt because that officer just spawned, leave and let him kill it. Gotcha.


This particular reply is an example of talking points #2 and #4 mentioned above.

Would anyone like to try again?

Mitrediablo
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.03.06 19:08:00 - [178]
 

*snip*

Please be more polite -Sahwoolo Etoophie

Jinnigan
Minmatar
Poon Fleet
Posted - 2007.03.06 19:09:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Mitrediablo
*snip*

This particular quote contains no content!

Would anyone else like to try again?

B1G DAVE
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.03.06 19:14:00 - [180]
 

Sorry i havent read the whole thread, so this may have been mentioned before.

But first of all you say its free, fair enough. But then you say corps using the space have to pay 25m a week in POS fuel. How does that work?


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