Posted - 2007.02.12 19:06:00 - [181]

 

Edited by: Lenex Raay on 12/02/2007 19:03:05
Oh, and I forgot to mention, lagg wasn't really that bad, it took nearly 15 seconds to load up the "Battlefront" (pos battle) and after that, if you were too zoom in "SLOWLY" you could see waht was going on.

(Thanks to some apoc pilot for giving me all your t2 loot!!! I "are" rich now!)

Lenex

Posted - 2007.02.12 19:08:00 - [183]

 

Originally by: Marko Debreault

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Kudos to the instigators of this war for forming a unified political vision and then acting to make it come true. That's what makes EVE so cool. The willpower to wage war is something that I admire in an EVE entity, and since this war is part of a broad vision that starts with the current political landscape and builds a desirable future for them, I think its a great war.

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Thank you for this. To me there's millions of reasons to fight, and to have our foes recognize what drives this fight is refreshing in the extreme.

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Fatal are fighters. That's all I have to say about them.

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QFMFT.

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I have a word of caution for both sides. At this point the forums can become a place where future relationships are built or sabotoged. If you post insulting stuff without thinking it through you're poisoning the future. This conflict nears a resolution and that future looms quickly; take care with your words.

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QFMFT, again.

FATAL and 0utbreak will never have anything less than complete respect from Ka-Tet. You've stood your ground and forced us to adapt time and again, and we've improved immensely because of it. We look forward to continuing pew pew in the future, and if you're ever faced with the prospect of sucking veld in empire, look us up first.

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Having said that, I'm going to blow all you *****es up.

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Noted. Thine ass is now primary, now and forever amen.

Posted - 2007.02.12 19:17:00 - [185]

 

Originally by: Stalert Balakos

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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to be honest i dont think that the lv bob alliance will fail but even if they do as you just said many may join fatal alliance and belive me the pvp side of our alliance (witch consists of most of us 98% ish) wether we lose the outpost or not wont be going anywhere apart from a npc station closest to your systems so even if we lose, bob and lv lose we will still be here doing the things that we do just with more numbers

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Err, I'm not entirely sure what it is you're trying to say (punctuation and capitalisation are friends to be cherished by the way) but I think it's along the lines of, if you lose, you're going to come back with your big brother and all his mates and beat us up? That's a really sophisticated argument there, Mr Bean. Oh, and have fun finding an NPC station in the new regions.

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your right you dont understand what im sayin. the justification ive heard for this fight was the fact that we didnt nap with the entire region and we have mates in a bob corp plus we left lv and may still be friendly with them.

the post said that it was a concern that if bob and lv lost they would join us ans come to thos region.

my reply was that wether we have a outpost or not that would happen or would'nt the only thing that has changed with this fight you started is to give us a target to totaly focus on if it does happen

Posted - 2007.02.12 19:25:00 - [187]

 

Originally by: Lenex Raay

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(Thanks to some apoc pilot for giving me all your t2 loot!!! I "are" rich now!)

Lenex

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Posted - 2007.02.12 19:32:00 - [189]

 

Edited by: Horner Langly on 12/02/2007 19:30:45

Originally by: Sku1ly

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Originally by: Lenex Raay

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(Thanks to some apoc pilot for giving me all your t2 loot!!! I "are" rich now!)

Lenex

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sorry mate! (From Lenex Raay, not horner Langly)

Posted - 2007.02.12 19:39:00 - [191]

 

I have missed out on the fighting since Thursday due to moving and having no internets at home (won't be back on until Tuesday, sigh)... but, though this might be an inevitable setback for our side...

We will be back. In force. With our own big bad capital ships.

YM Valhalla is a warrior's refuge and warriors we are.

Warriors respect their foes, you have our respect- but you are not worthy of our Valhalla.

What is ours shall be reclaimed at a future date, I suggest you all stay on your toes awaiting our glorious return to rule and power.

The chances of us betraying our friends is zero. Warriors are loyal and honorable.

That said...

We were neutral in the war betweeen BoBLVstar Galactica and the Cylons of the NAP Pack. We wanted no part in the POS war petty politics of RAGoon and LV. We left the south for a reason.

YOUR actions have dragged us back into this conflict, not ours.

YOUR actions have brought this escalation from 'neighbors who pew pew one another for fun and excitement' to 'respected, dearest foe.'

Remember kids, the warriors will return home one day.

I hope your carebears don't complain too much.

Respect. Combat with glory. Death with honor.

-AD

Posted - 2007.02.12 20:05:00 - [193]

 

Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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your right you dont understand what im sayin. the justification ive heard for this fight was the fact that we didnt nap with the entire region and we have mates in a bob corp plus we left lv and may still be friendly with them.

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Just a clarification, since there seems to be some misunderstandings about this.

The problem wasn't that you weren't NAP'd with the rest of the region, nor was it the fact you have mates in BoB or were former LV. XPact and FREGE continue to pew pew each other, and we don't care. Both RAM and AWM fought with LV before forming Ka-Tet. AWM was with BoB in the begining, working with them in Tenal and Branch during the GNW. AWM even has former It had to do entirely with geopolitical development, and those former points were a factor.

First things first. FATAL has ties with DICE, are friends with them, had their alliance formed with them, and flew in combat gangs with them. Unfortunately, DICE are part of BoB, and there was no way for us to guarantee that you wouldn't allow DICE or the rest of BoB to base out of your station. That presented a maor strategic liability - it would allow BoB to hit RA from the rear into Cache, or push north into D2/IRON space. Either one would bring that war to our doorstep, which we didn't want.

Secondly was your association with LV. AWM fought with LV while we were part of KOS, and based on our experiences then there was no way we wanted the main LV corporations to have a home out in the new Kali regions. FATAL we knew, and you have since confirmed by your actions, are stand up guys who just like to blow stuff up. Other LV corps have far different aims, ones that we don't want to have any part of. Once again, letting LV have an escape route into the Kali regions would bring that war to our doorstep, which we didn't want.

Based on those two things, we decided that unless FATAL was going to break ties with DICE and LV - something we considered unlikely at best - there was a good chance that DICE/BOB/LV would be able to use FATAL's facilities in the future. We therefore decided to put that outpost under new management, which would be less likely to present as hospitable a home for those elements.

Personally speaking, I think that FATAL is an incredible corporation, and I would love to have you living under our banner or even as members of Ka-Tet. But leaving you with an outpost that we can't control the access to is simply an unacceptable risk from a strategic point of view, and thus we come to the present war.

Posted - 2007.02.12 20:18:00 - [195]

 

Originally by: Armois Delgato

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We will be back. In force. With our own big bad capital ships.

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I dearly hope so. I for one could ask for no better foe than FATAL, and look forward to much pew pew for years to come.

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We were neutral in the war betweeen BoBLVstar Galactica and the Cylons of the NAP Pack. We wanted no part in the POS war petty politics of RAGoon and LV. We left the south for a reason.

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Point of fact, we're shooting you so that the RAGOONTCFLVD2IRONBOBRESTOFEVE conflict DOESN'T come to the Kali regions. On the other hand, POS wars are a fact of life for anyone who claims territory, no matter how large or how small.

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Remember kids, the warriors will return home one day.

I hope your carebears don't complain too much.

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I hope they scream like little girls when you blow up their Barbie dolls with firecrackers, personally. Carebears without teeth don't deserve to live in 0.0, those that have teeth will pout for a while then eat you. If we're not the latter, we deserve what we get.

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Respect. Combat with glory. Death with honor.

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Always.

Posted - 2007.02.12 21:08:00 - [197]

 

Originally by: Armois Delgato

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BoBLVstar Galactica

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I LOL'd.

On a more serious note, all these recriminations regarding the genesis of this war are pretty much a moot point. I think it has been made abundantly clear that we left LV and set out on our own for exactly that reason -- to be on our own, and do what we want to do.

Our new neighbors don't like our old friends. They saw it as a liability, and decided to try to evict us. Personally, I think their reasoning sucks, and has already had the opposite effect from what was intended -- multi-alliance blobs tend to attract more alliances (hi Chowdown) -- but it doesn't really matter now.

Bottom line is, we're stuck with this war. Least we can do is keep up the good fights and good vibes, cause it certainly ain't over yet.

Posted - 2007.02.12 21:45:00 - [199]

 

Originally by: Molotka

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I would love to have you living under our banner or even as members of Ka-Tet.

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over our dead-frozen-cloned bodies! We don't turn back on our friends, however old they are. Keep bringing it, we sure will keep blowing them up.

Posted - 2007.02.12 22:00:00 - [201]

 

Originally by: Befounder

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Originally by: Molotka

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I would love to have you living under our banner or even as members of Ka-Tet.

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over our dead-frozen-cloned bodies! We don't turn back on our friends, however old they are. Keep bringing it, we sure will keep blowing them up.

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Yeah, that's kind of what we figured. Let the pew pew continue!

Posted - 2007.02.12 22:17:00 - [203]

 

Originally by: Armois Delgato

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We will be back. In force. With our own big bad capital ships.

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That's the thing we planned for thusfar I understand.

Posted - 2007.02.12 22:21:00 - [205]

 

Originally by: Molotka

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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your right you dont understand what im sayin. the justification ive heard for this fight was the fact that we didnt nap with the entire region and we have mates in a bob corp plus we left lv and may still be friendly with them.

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Just a clarification, since there seems to be some misunderstandings about this.

The problem wasn't that you weren't NAP'd with the rest of the region, nor was it the fact you have mates in BoB or were former LV. XPact and FREGE continue to pew pew each other, and we don't care. Both RAM and AWM fought with LV before forming Ka-Tet. AWM was with BoB in the begining, working with them in Tenal and Branch during the GNW. AWM even has former It had to do entirely with geopolitical development, and those former points were a factor.

First things first. FATAL has ties with DICE, are friends with them, had their alliance formed with them, and flew in combat gangs with them. Unfortunately, DICE are part of BoB, and there was no way for us to guarantee that you wouldn't allow DICE or the rest of BoB to base out of your station. That presented a maor strategic liability - it would allow BoB to hit RA from the rear into Cache, or push north into D2/IRON space. Either one would bring that war to our doorstep, which we didn't want.

Secondly was your association with LV. AWM fought with LV while we were part of KOS, and based on our experiences then there was no way we wanted the main LV corporations to have a home out in the new Kali regions. FATAL we knew, and you have since confirmed by your actions, are stand up guys who just like to blow stuff up. Other LV corps have far different aims, ones that we don't want to have any part of. Once again, letting LV have an escape route into the Kali regions would bring that war to our doorstep, which we didn't want.

Based on those two things, we decided that unless FATAL was going to break ties with DICE and LV - something we considered unlikely at best - there was a good chance that DICE/BOB/LV would be able to use FATAL's facilities in the future. We therefore decided to put that outpost under new management, which would be less likely to present as hospitable a home for those elements.

Personally speaking, I think that FATAL is an incredible corporation, and I would love to have you living under our banner or even as members of Ka-Tet. But leaving you with an outpost that we can't control the access to is simply an unacceptable risk from a strategic point of view, and thus we come to the present war.

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That pretty much hits the nail on the head on why we went to war.

Posted - 2007.02.12 22:35:00 - [207]

 

Edited by: Turin on 12/02/2007 22:32:46
FATAL has certainly earned my respect. They have been out numberd almost every time, and still bring the fight VERY hard. And once they have their teeth locked on you, they dont let go either. They keep warping in and loosing ships till the cap ship goes down.

As your main target last night, ( thankfully I still have my dread ) id just like to say thank you for the few gray hairs!!! There is nothing more intimidating than seeing a 50 man fleet with a swarm of fighters, and a big ass swarm of tacklers coming your way, all targeting you at once. My heart skipped a couple and I was like "uh... I think im primary" Kudos to my fleet for keeping them off me.


Anyhow. all that aside. I just want to say thanks for some of the best fights I have had in EVE. Certainly the most hair raising cap ops I have been a part of to date.

Thanks for the great fights, and the smack free. As everyone else says. Lets keep it that way! Good fights good times. I wish I could take you all out for a beer when this is over.

Posted - 2007.02.12 22:53:00 - [209]

 

Might have been just me. But looked that you had a damn fine tank Turin.

As much as i'm enjoying all these fights i just want to add i never wanted a outpost in the first place. One way or the other i am looking forward to the day we're out of the tight leash we are on now.

Then the real fun begins.