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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United |
Posted - 2007.01.07 21:16:00 - [ 91]
Edited by: Kuolematon on 07/01/2007 21:51:57
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tiller
THE PILLAGE
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:39:00 - [ 92]
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Samirol
Love is Hate |
Posted - 2007.01.07 21:42:00 - [ 93]
 Originally by: Kuolematon
Piracy is dead? PvP is dead?
Oh, I think I know some other alliance that does pretty well job .. and certain corp that florish right now 
if you are referring to privateers then dont ever post again |
Skywalker
Minmatar
MAFIA
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:57:00 - [ 94]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Waxau
At the time of Black Fleet and Red Navy Factions' departure from PC, alliance leadership was trying to get the CEOs of the alliance corps to meet on TS servers. Perhaps, this lack of TS I keep hearing about is a reference to this. In all fairness, I must say, the call for the CEOs to come on TS came AFTER everyone was ordered to move to MAFIA's location, or start ponying up 100 million isk a month for the use of the PAYUS tag.
The funniest thing of all is that the alliance leaders (Skywalker) at the time only had a dial up connection, and couldn't use voice communication. Ironic in that he cites other CEOs' reluctance to "go on TS" as a percipitating cause of the decline of the old PC.
Ok, about getting people onto TS, well i tried it more then once, just ask anyone that been around long enough.
And yes i have been playing on a modem for 1year and finally got broadband.
Still i have been on teamspeak everytime i am logged on, no problems.
It is ventrilo that is harder to use, but since alliance voice com server is a teamspeak server that was never a problem.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.01.08 00:07:00 - [ 95]
*ahem*
Please excuse John Dean, he smokes a lot of pot and drinks a lot of alcohol and has the diplomatic adeptness of a hungry cobra.
As for "resting your case", you have no case. There is no argument. Your complaining about someone spamming your alliance mail and we're laughing at you. The only argument I see here is whether or not PC is a good alliance and frankly quite a few people seem to think otherwise. Is Pirate Coalition dying? Perhaps, perhaps not. One thing is certain, you had over 500 members and now you have only 3 more then Black Fleet. Quite the alliance... |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 02:48:00 - [ 96]
Tiller:
*sigh*
Maybe because there really is no such thing as being 'camped' in a station.
Use a insta undock
Use a shuttle
Log off and play a hr later
Etc
Etc
Etc
Etc
I certainly would not come running 20j through low sec to 'help' a few alliance guys undock...maybe if you had a couple of dreads stuck in siege mode and scrambled then yes.
Does this really look like what it looks like? You are saying to me, that during a war you were not willing to make 16 jumps to help a heavily camped in alliance member? Right there is the whole problem with Pirate Coalition. You won't show up to one of the only systems that an alliance war is being fought to help out your alliance members, but you do expect everyone in the alliance to show up to an OPTIONAL alliance operation DURING said war (and the op not being aimed at war targets.)
Funny that. I thought you joined an alliance for mutual aid and protection. Apparently, Black Fleet and Red Navy faction deserve no help during a war, because we have no capital ships, but we sure as hell better move to MAFIA or pay a 100 million isk. I'm wondering how this alliance benefits anyone but you, being that you were one of the only corps with capital ships in the alliance?
ALL of which is totally beside the point. My post was an attempt to illustrate how we were not given the dignaty of a "we can't make it." We were TOTALLY ignored every time we requested help.
If you were truly stuck in a station then it's a tactical mistake on your part...not my problem.
Right here is the whole issue I had with the old PC. When the enemy in an alliance war has you pinned down, don't look to Pirate Coalition for help. Its your fault. If your attitude is indicative of how the alliance will function in the future, then all I can do is wish you luck.
You are complaining about the very thing Skywalker was trying to fix.. people to spread out to help each other.
No, I'm complaining about a LACK of response to us in the alliance channel. Not that nobody came, that's fine, I understood the nature of the alliance. What I'm complaining about is not even getting a "sorry, dude, we all live in Placid," or a "I don't think we can make it." Nothing. Everyone goes about their business like we didn't exist.
Of course no-one would come running, no-one is near you.
Well, not exactly. A number of us lived in Heimatar, but like I said, not the point.
btw, are you aggreeing with what Scoundrelus just said, do him and john spam your corp with 400 mails each time they get angry ?
I'm not going to excuse what John did. It was over the line. Having said that, I'm not going to kick him from the corp either. He was threatened with podding, and bodily harm, because he said the 100 million isk per month tax was a bad idea. Should he have come to us? Yes. Is he totally responsible? No.
I doubt the people who threatened him are out of the alliance (unless they too left.)
Quote 'The spamming of the alliance mail was hilarious' ... yeah real funny :\, is that your official corp policy ?
Scound is Scound, what can I say. The man is completely entitled to his opinion. My guess is, given that I was not a director in Black Fleet at the time, that the official corp policy is somewhere close to what I just said.
John was repremanded, but not kicked from the corp, because there were mitigating circumstances, and frankly, because John is an interagle part Black Fleet, a good guy, and a Friend.
-Karlemgne
Black Fleet |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 02:55:00 - [ 97]
Can we get a restraining order on the black fleet from all PC related posts its getting old now  |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:13:00 - [ 98]
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:43:00 - [ 99]
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:22:00 - [ 100]
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Dana Barrett
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.01.08 04:25:00 - [ 101]
Edited by: Dana Barrett on 08/01/2007 04:23:07Edited by: Dana Barrett on 08/01/2007 04:22:19Referring to Karlemgne's post: I believe it was you folks up to the north of us that were begging for the war in the first place, since you were the ones that actually....you know.... saw IAC and were bothered by them. I remember hearing that the odds would be tilted once they couldn't use sentry guns on their side. I guess that wasn't true. Your complaint is the lack of response to the station camp. Valid claim if you ask me. I think if we were all in the immediate vicinity folks would have helped out, but everyone else except BKFT and RNF were down by Amamake. Therefore Skywalker's plan to restructure sounds like it will fix this problem. Best of luck to him and PC. Oh and Scoundrelus, don't try to sidle out of the fact that you're one of the biggest corp jumpers I've seen. (btw this is my last post as Dana Barrett, I'm selling this char so if you choose to take your aggression out on her in the future then it's not me ) |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.01.08 04:29:00 - [ 102]
Originally by: Samirol
"it's not dead...it's just sleeping!"
This pirate is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, He rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the pod, he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PIRATE!! |
Sun Win
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.01.08 05:15:00 - [ 103]
An eXin Pirate? |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 05:23:00 - [ 104]
Oh and Scoundrelus, don't try to sidle out of the fact that you're one of the biggest corp jumpers I've seen.
No matter what corps Scound has been in, he has been a constant constructive presence here at Black Fleet and in our Vent. I trust him implicately, and like John, he's a good pilot and a friend, and I'm glad he's here.
He also, if you care to look, has plenty of history with us.
Just to defend Scound for a bit. ;-)
-Karl |
Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord |
Posted - 2007.01.08 11:31:00 - [ 105]
Originally by: John Dean
Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:56:17
Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:46:13
Edited by: John Dean on 07/01/2007 19:44:50
Originally by: Dana Barrett
Another problem was alliance mails were so frequent and so non-important that I never even checked them after a week of crap. One dude even had a ridiculous 400-something mails because he was fed up with his corp or the alliance or something and spammed for a day straight. 
Other than that I really have nothing else to say about the old PC. Some excellent corps, some terrible ones.
I was fed up with your stupid alliance and the fact that you b!tches refused to help us during the IAC war on the numerous times that we asked you to.... with the exception of skywalker in his dread for one day....
And then there was the restructuring of the alliance to for a stupid ass 'core group'..... and having to pay rediculous sums of money if not part of said 'group'....
Not to mention that because of that f@g preatorian-something or another taking a joke out of context and then flaming me in alliance chat i p!ssed off a bunch more of you girls due to taking his side on sh!t you had no business being in.
So in conclusion.... Mother-F*cking die Pirate Coalition.... i hope your funeral is short!!!
(sorry for all the edits.... had to reword due to filters to get my point across)
This post is one of the/or the most stupid post in my eve-o existence ,i'am in eve for 3 years and i saw alot off ***. And john you are putting your name on the mud and even worse you are putting your corp true the mud. That said i wish PC good luck,with stupid ****** like this piece here ,you just had a new respect from me at least ,and you are like saints for resisting with an alliance member with this kind off stupid manners and just stupid attitude.Even worse is that i see alot of there corp members saying he was rigth to spamm the alliance mail i think that the corp is all a bunch of tards. |
Dr Slice
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.01.08 14:11:00 - [ 106]
Bunch of tards...thats funny. Quick story with one of my encounters with Black Fleet back when I was in INFOD. Was hanging around Ingunn, when 2 Black Fleet came into the system. They started hunting for me in the belts and one of them said in local "where is he?" At this time I typed "uhm, what are you guys doing, we are blue to each other" lol They left the system without responding. Afterwards I got a little suspicious and asked a different Black Fleet Pilot if we were indeed blue to them and he confirmed we were. Ooops lol  |
eeski
Amarr
FACTS on EVE
RED.OverLord |
Posted - 2007.01.08 17:49:00 - [ 107]
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 17:59:00 - [ 108]
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 18:08:00 - [ 109]
Originally by: Dr Slice
Bunch of tards...thats funny.
Quick story with one of my encounters with Black Fleet back when I was in INFOD.
Was hanging around Ingunn, when 2 Black Fleet came into the system. They started hunting for me in the belts and one of them said in local "where is he?"
At this time I typed "uhm, what are you guys doing, we are blue to each other" lol
They left the system without responding. Afterwards I got a little suspicious and asked a different Black Fleet Pilot if we were indeed blue to them and he confirmed we were.
Ooops lol
Haha... my guess is, never happened. I wasn't there though. -Karl |
ollobrains
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos |
Posted - 2007.01.08 18:12:00 - [ 110]
alliances wax and wane - pirate caolation has had some good fights around the place hope to see it continue |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.08 18:41:00 - [ 111]
Originally by: ollobrains
alliances wax and wane - pirate caolation has had some good fights around the place hope to see it continue
Loose knite pirate alliance number 1 = failure. Loose knit pirate alliance number 2 (Privateer) = going to be a failure. Pirate corps should stay solo, and make good friends of other pirate corps. Alliances for us just end in stupidity. That's my opinion, not Black Fleets ;-). -Karl |
John Dean
The Red Exhilez
Means TO Oppression |
Posted - 2007.01.08 19:13:00 - [ 112]
Originally by: Dana Barrett
Edited by: Dana Barrett on 08/01/2007 04:23:07
Edited by: Dana Barrett on 08/01/2007 04:22:19
Referring to Karlemgne's post:
I believe it was you folks up to the north of us that were begging for the war in the first place, since you were the ones that actually....you know.... saw IAC and were bothered by them. I remember hearing that the odds would be tilted once they couldn't use sentry guns on their side. I guess that wasn't true.
Your complaint is the lack of response to the station camp. Valid claim if you ask me. I think if we were all in the immediate vicinity folks would have helped out, but everyone else except BKFT and RNF were down by Amamake. Therefore Skywalker's plan to restructure sounds like it will fix this problem. Best of luck to him and PC.
Oh and Scoundrelus, don't try to sidle out of the fact that you're one of the biggest corp jumpers I've seen.
(btw this is my last post as Dana Barrett, I'm selling this char so if you choose to take your aggression out on her in the future then it's not me)
Actually, it was PCABOO from Noobs on ecstacy that wanted the war with IAC because of the Imperial commonwealth [TIC]. So, Dana you are an idiot. Don't blame us for crap we didn't start. |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:26:00 - [ 113]
Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 08/01/2007 19:24:30 Originally by: John Dean
Originally by: Dana Barrett
Edited by: Dana Barrett on 08/01/2007 04:23:07
Edited by: Dana Barrett on 08/01/2007 04:22:19
Referring to Karlemgne's post:
I believe it was you folks up to the north of us that were begging for the war in the first place, since you were the ones that actually....you know.... saw IAC and were bothered by them. I remember hearing that the odds would be tilted once they couldn't use sentry guns on their side. I guess that wasn't true.
Your complaint is the lack of response to the station camp. Valid claim if you ask me. I think if we were all in the immediate vicinity folks would have helped out, but everyone else except BKFT and RNF were down by Amamake. Therefore Skywalker's plan to restructure sounds like it will fix this problem. Best of luck to him and PC.
Oh and Scoundrelus, don't try to sidle out of the fact that you're one of the biggest corp jumpers I've seen.
(btw this is my last post as Dana Barrett, I'm selling this char so if you choose to take your aggression out on her in the future then it's not me)
Actually, it was PCABOO from Noobs on ecstacy that wanted the war with IAC because of the Imperial commonwealth [TIC]. So, Dana you are an idiot. Don't blame us for crap we didn't start.
Idiot or just misinformed? Also every one knows by the trasitive property of characters that look like child molesters you and PcAboo are two of a kind There fore all things Done by PcAboo = Stuff John Dean Does but all things John Dean takes part in are not things PcAboo does. I call it PcAboo complex |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:42:00 - [ 114]
What John Dean said. We contributed willingly to the war fund, and backed the war as everyone else seemed to as well. It was not us, but Noobs on X that wanted the war to begin with. Aparently, it was just OUR two corps who had to fight it though.
Strange given all the hawkish foaming of the mouth that lead to the war dec. :-/
-Karlemgne |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 03:39:00 - [ 115]
Its official your all booooooooooooring
I'm going to the soap opera forums to read a shocking bob expose instead hmph (in my opinion this sh*t dosen't even belong here) |
LittleTerror
Day Unhappy Security Inc. |
Posted - 2007.01.09 03:58:00 - [ 116]
Edited by: LittleTerror on 09/01/2007 03:54:39
lot of BLAH BLAH BLAH in this thread
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 04:45:00 - [ 117]
needs less blah blah and more me in my humble opinion |
Crimson Onyx
Sadistic Retribution
Sadistic Empire |
Posted - 2007.01.09 04:53:00 - [ 118]
I just came back from vacation and seen a "PC is dead thread" and giggled.  |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2007.01.09 05:30:00 - [ 119]
Hehe... The Black Fleet now has as many members as the entire Pirate Coalition.
Thought I'd add that.
-Karl |
Torhas
Gallente |
Posted - 2007.01.09 05:45:00 - [ 120]
If you're trying to prove something then perhaps a wardec would settle things |
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