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Garnet Strife
Gallente
Psykotic Meat
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2006.12.03 12:21:00 - [1]
 

Right just an idea. Going to get slated of course. But since CCP changes everything so pirates cant do bugger all in empire without 874 man fleets camping a gate. (Then you still miss people) Thought about putting out sec status to -1.9.

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.

Gray Carmicheal
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2006.12.03 12:26:00 - [2]
 

I haven't had a problem.


Course, I hate gate camping. Did it too much in 0.0 like you said.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.12.03 12:36:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Garnet Strife

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.


Deal with it, you commit the crime, you do the time.

You had patch notes in advance, and SiSi testing to see how the game changes would be for a month.

If you didn't like it, you had ample time to fix your sec.


Skyraker7
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.12.03 12:41:00 - [4]
 

I don't get it.. What has changed?


Morph3uS
Tempt Fate
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2006.12.03 13:04:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Garnet Strife
Right just an idea. Going to get slated of course. But since CCP changes everything so pirates cant do bugger all in empire without 874 man fleets camping a gate. (Then you still miss people) Thought about putting out sec status to -1.9.

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.



pretty hard to bring 5 alts back to -1.9 huh? Laughing

Rina Shanu
Imperial Polar Ventures
Stainless.
Posted - 2006.12.03 13:27:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Garnet Strife
Right just an idea. Going to get slated of course. But since CCP changes everything so pirates cant do bugger all in empire without 874 man fleets camping a gate. (Then you still miss people) Thought about putting out sec status to -1.9.

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.


Xelas are pirates ?

kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2006.12.03 13:36:00 - [7]
 

Personally, I feel there should be an option where you could pay to have your security status set to zero, 500-1000 mill or something like along those lines.

However that said, I can't say my sec status gives me any grief.

Syraf
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.12.03 13:42:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Skyraker7
I don't get it.. What has changed?




Nothing much

Harder to snag people warping to Stations/Gates without instas.
Easy to scan mission runners

The two balance each other out imo. Havent really suffered cause of the changes.

T'Renn
Silver Snake Enterprise
Posted - 2006.12.03 16:57:00 - [9]
 

Honestly, I love my newfound blinkyness. It gets me into more skirmishes.

M Counts
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.12.03 17:31:00 - [10]
 

pirating is dead, guys, just FYI


no, really, its dead


those guys in amamake? yeah. zombies.

Izo Azlion
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.12.03 19:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: M Counts
pirating is dead, guys, just FYI


no, really, its dead


those guys in amamake? yeah. zombies.


Amamake died while we were doing the whole 9UY thing, we came back and were like "Where has all teh piwats gonz?"

XD


Constantine Arcanum
Bad Company DBD
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2006.12.03 19:59:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Garnet Strife
Right just an idea. Going to get slated of course. But since CCP changes everything so pirates cant do bugger all in empire without 874 man fleets camping a gate. (Then you still miss people) Thought about putting out sec status to -1.9.

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.


GTFO

Xendie
Ad Astra Vexillum
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2006.12.03 21:46:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Rina Shanu
Originally by: Garnet Strife
Right just an idea. Going to get slated of course. But since CCP changes everything so pirates cant do bugger all in empire without 874 man fleets camping a gate. (Then you still miss people) Thought about putting out sec status to -1.9.

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.


Xelas are pirates ?



last i heard they had a number of people move to low sec space out of fountain to get away from celest.
so you might be correct.

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.12.03 21:51:00 - [14]
 

i know at least one corpmate with a true -10.0 who would be very upset if anything like that ever happened

chaotic
Gallente
ZANCOR
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:25:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: M Counts
pirating is dead, guys, just FYI


no, really, its dead


those guys in amamake? yeah. zombies.


Pirating is alive and kicking Very Happy I killed a Rokh 6 hours after they were availiable.

[ZNC]

Damien Smith
The Insane Tormentors
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:54:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: mazzilliu
i know at least one corpmate with a true -10.0 who would be very upset if anything like that ever happened


Stop it, you're bringing back bad memories.

I slaved away to get a true -10, then while ransoming some guy in a belt, a gang mate killed an npc that one of my drones had previously tickled after it attacked me. Of course I was marked as being involved in the kill so I lost my precious -10 and with it the e-peen bonus it provided.

Crying or Very sad

Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2006.12.03 23:57:00 - [17]
 

... Geesh.

All right, admittedly, I haven't seen any pirate gate camps since the patch, but I can't help thinking that this is because a lot of pirates -think- gate camping is nerfed, rather than because it is.

Look. If you think being able to only catch lowsec targets going, not coming, is going to critically cramp your style, learn Astrometrics and its support skills, get yourself a probe launcher, and HUNT!

It's not that bloody difficult. Things change. Adapt. More pirate. Less whine.

kessah
Blood Blind
Posted - 2006.12.04 00:08:00 - [18]
 

ive not seen any pirates for ages yknow... no flashy red ones in low sec at all after patch, mebbie the warp to 0m really did kill it off. Confused

Grim Starwind
Exotic Dancers Club
Posted - 2006.12.04 01:42:00 - [19]
 

Pirating isn't dead. Can still get people in belts (not many folk use stabs anymore) and gate camps are fine.. just means we can't catch those little few who didn't have instas in the first place. Which was a small amount in usually only in shuttles.

The ability to still grab people coming THROUGH the gate is still there. And as others have said the probe system has been boosted so go get those baers in there missions. YAR!!11!!1 YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.12.04 02:40:00 - [20]
 


Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2006.12.04 05:40:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Garnet Strife
Right just an idea. Going to get slated of course. But since CCP changes everything so pirates cant do bugger all in empire without 874 man fleets camping a gate. (Then you still miss people) Thought about putting out sec status to -1.9.

You changed our gameplay. Most of us dont like it adapt spending weeks in 0.0... rather not.


Wha.... sob... sniffle.

Forgive my sarcatic response, friend, but I pirate, and I still do a hell of a lot without 874 man gate camps.

Maybe this is because I pirate in belts, and don't camp gates. You see, piracy does not necessarilly equate to camping gates. In fact, I'd say gate camping is the most boring, cowardly, and lazy form of piracy.

Learn how to use your scanner and start getting people in belts, that is what I've done the entire time I've played eve.

-Karl

Merchantigus
Minmatar
Riot Zone
Posted - 2006.12.04 06:06:00 - [22]
 

I'm a pirate and i deserve being locked out of empire. i'm a very very naughty person. you win the most ******ed post i've seen in the past hour award

*stamp*

Princess Porno
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.12.04 07:16:00 - [23]
 

Do the low-sec piracy against mission runners. CCP doesn't think missioners add any value to the game, they're just fodder. CCP made it so easy for a pirates to slap a scan probe on it's bs and go ganking carebears that it's almost boring. Even if the carebears put up organized resistance, they aren't missioning, making isk, mining, and if you also fit a prototype cloak they can't find you. Even if don't nail the missioner's uber BS, you have a really good chance to **** their looter and pod them for all their implants.

Even if you don't like low-sec piracy, there might be competition out there, you can grief missioners in high-sec. CCP hates them all, so they maximize the amount of griefing for all.

All missioners are meat.

CCP is only glad they send in the monthly payment, other than that they really can't stand them and want the pirates to push them into high-sec until they either go to 0.0 (even more pirates there) or just quit -the latter reduces lag so CCP doesn't need to buy more blades (and they still make money).

To the OP:
Stop griping and get griefing, you muppet. You have carebears to harass until they cancel their accounts out of frustration with the game-mechanics favoring ganking.

Benzmann
MAFIA
War and Pestilence
Posted - 2006.12.04 11:04:00 - [24]
 

Piracy will never die, it will be nerfed maybe, but we will allways find a new way to **** people off

Lex Kram
Posted - 2006.12.04 11:16:00 - [25]
 

How about a Bribery skill that gives a % chance per lvl that concord will look the other way. Or another option might be a form of pass available on the market or through an agent that gives access to high sec systems in a specific region for a set amount of time.

Gray Carmicheal
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2006.12.04 11:19:00 - [26]
 

To top it off, I fitted a Ferox today (Horribly I might add) to gain this:

2006.12.04 01:41

Victim: ----
Alliance: None
Corp: ----
Destroyed: Bestower
System: ----
Security: 0.4

Involved parties:

Name: Gray Carmicheal (laid the final blow)
Security: -3.0
Alliance: None
Corp: Wings of Redemption
Ship: Ferox
Weapon: 250mm Carbide Railgun I


Destroyed items:

Expanded Cargohold I, Qty: 4


It's not much, but I did it under gate sentry fire for the first time ever (Hence the crap setup). Gate camping is fun now!

Lanfear's Bane
Mining Munitions and Mayhem
R i s e
Posted - 2006.12.04 15:13:00 - [27]
 

Give pirates the choice of a plus ten perhaps. Not just an enforced addition to sec. I guess you could accept it and if it turned out not to be to our liking you could go back to your old ways, no harm no foul.

Lanfear's Bane.

Taka
Caldari
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
Posted - 2006.12.04 16:05:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Grim Starwind

The ability to still grab people coming THROUGH the gate is still there.YARRRR!!YARRRR!!


Try camp a minmatar gate then u will see how hard it is to catch them!

Jaedar Metron
Gigaverse
Posted - 2006.12.04 19:26:00 - [29]
 

Well hello Garnie, thought your three man team wouldnt like the new WTZ Smile

You could always try pirating in belts and complexes... less kills, but hell of a lot funner than wot you guys seemed to be doing all the time Laughing

Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.12.04 20:02:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Lanfear's Bane
Give pirates the choice of a plus ten perhaps. Not just an enforced addition to sec. I guess you could accept it and if it turned out not to be to our liking you could go back to your old ways, no harm no foul.

Lanfear's Bane.


I think this would go against everything EVE stands for. EVE has always been a game where your actions and choices matter. Losses are real, gains are real. If CCP start adding easy ways out it will turn EVE into a standard MMORPG like SWG or WoW.

With added hp and warp to 0 factors the piracy in general did not change a bit (I don't consider gate camping to be piracy). It was dead when I first tried it (a year+ ago) and was going downhill ever since. The problem was never in stabs or other game mechanics. The main problem always was the low quality of low sec space. Almost nobody will go mining or ratting in low sec. Agents were a different story, but now I am not sure what will happen to the agent runners. Though with exploration there might be a new influx of players going to low sec.

0.0 piracy still exists, but it is not for everybody. It is very hard for a solo pilot to operate in 0.0 without using tactics bordering with exploiting. For experienced larger groups its different, but many players become pirates for the "lone wolf" side of it.

So, from my point of view, the perfect solution for security status problem is to leave everything like it is. Everybody knew what was going to happen and had time to fix their security status if they wanted to. Like Verone said: don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.

P.S. Just fyi, i am still -2.8 myself even though I stopped pirating long time ago. So I know how much of a pain in the arse it is to fix security status.


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