| Author |
Topic |
DazWozUK
Caldari
Goodfellas holding corp |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:39:00 - [ 1]
Im mining in 0.5 space in my hulk when a group of caracals appear all from the same corp and blow it up. Concord then warps in and blows them up.
I war dec the corp which takes 48 hrs to go live, within the 48 hrs they all form a new corp and leave the corp i decked.
So I war dec the new corp, again within 48 hrs they all leave and form a new corp, so i war dec this corp.
Repeat as above until i hit the max linit of 3 wars. All the corps i have war decked now have 0 members so i cancel the war decks.
I then war dec the latest corp and they all move to the previous corp who's war dec I have had to cancel.
Now I would resort to doing what they did and just pop them and take the sec hit, but they only do missions and are never at belts, the only time I can find them is either at the station or at a gate which means in the time it takes sentries + concord to destroy my caracals I wouldnt have destroyed the targets.
Don't tell me what they are doing is an exploit as I have now been told 3 times that it isnt by the people who rule the game.
Anyone have any idea at all how I can get my own back on these characters?? |
Kate Darieux
Unbound.
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Posted - 2006.11.21 18:42:00 - [ 2]
Edited by: Kate Darieux on 21/11/2006 18:43:19
They're very sad if they have to flee to a new corp each time you war-dec them, and in my opinion, they aren't worth wasting your time. Just get over the loss, they're just a couple of gank-kiddies with nothing better to do. |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:42:00 - [ 3]
I'd file a petition for that, I think that actually is an exploit. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.
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DazWozUK
Caldari
Goodfellas holding corp |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:43:00 - [ 4]
 Originally by: Winterblink
I'd file a petition for that, I think that actually is an exploit. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.
Unfortunately you are wrong, petition rejected as this is not an exploit. |
Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden. |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:43:00 - [ 5]
Originally by: DazWozUK
I then war dec the latest corp and they all move to the previous corp who's war dec I have had to cancel.
That bit is an exploit, the rest is lame, but allowed. |
Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden. |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:45:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: DazWozUK
Originally by: Winterblink
I'd file a petition for that, I think that actually is an exploit. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.
Unfortunately you are wrong, petition rejected as this is not an exploit.
You might need to be more clear in your petition. If the GM's need help reminding them of their policy I may have a petition number still that they can refer to. |
DazWozUK
Caldari
Goodfellas holding corp |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:47:00 - [ 7]
my petition couldnt be any clearer, twice today i have been told this is 100% not an exploit. I have tried to esculate it but have now hit a brick wall.
If it is an exploit where do I take my petition to because the GM's believe it 100% isn't an exploit.
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maarud
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.11.21 18:48:00 - [ 8]
If they quit a corp and reform another corp to be rid of a war dec it is considered an exploit it.
Petition it.
Otherwise I'd run a full tank on your hulk... always. |
Eldo Davip
ISD YARR
|
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:48:00 - [ 9]
hmm...I also thought that changing corporations to avoid war was an exploit. |
Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden. |
Posted - 2006.11.21 18:49:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: DazWozUK
my petition couldnt be any clearer, twice today i have been told this is 100% not an exploit. I have tried to esculate it but have now hit a brick wall.
If it is an exploit where do I take my petition to because the GM's believe it 100% isn't an exploit.
You are allowed to leave a corp that has been war dec'd. You are allowed to disband a corp that has been war dec'd. You are not allowed to leave a corp to avoid a war dec, and then re-join the same corp when the war is cancelled. Ask for a senior GM to give you a full written explaination as to if and when that policy was changed. |
Anti Protagonist
Hiro Trade and Logistics
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Posted - 2006.11.21 18:59:00 - [ 11]
Would be nice to have them decide that. Two corps that I've war deced have done basically the same thing. Start a holder alt, everyone leaves the corp. War drops, everyone's back in. Petitioned and was told it was allowable. |
DazWozUK
Caldari
Goodfellas holding corp |
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:32:00 - [ 12]
There seems to be a lot of confusion over this rule. Basically it is an exploit, everyone knows its an exploit but how do you enforce it???
Like many exploits in eve they appear to be unenforceable, makes you wonder why we bother having rules in the first place??? |
Tachy |
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:34:00 - [ 13]
Petition them. Let the gods sort the situation out. |
Kate Darieux
Unbound.
|
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:39:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Tachy
Petition them. Let the gods sort the situation out.
But he did already, and it got rejected!  |
Jenny Spitfire
Caldari |
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:46:00 - [ 15]
CCP needs to change war decs. I think the best way to implement a war dec is to have a 2 weeks cooldown. Alliance and Empire wars will never be the same again. :) |
Kylania
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
Sylph Alliance |
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:46:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: DazWozUK
Anyone have any idea at all how I can get my own back on these characters??
Since you'll never find them in anything but a cheap throwaway Caracal, I bet you'll never get back at them to the tune of a Hulk.  |
Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Merciless. |
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:49:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: DazWozUK
There seems to be a lot of confusion over this rule.
there was a nice station in branch adressing this "issue"  |
Tachy |
Posted - 2006.11.21 19:53:00 - [ 18]
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Kaemonn
ISD YARR
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Posted - 2006.11.21 20:13:00 - [ 19]
I just asked a GM about this issue. It is only an exploit if they rejoin the corp after the decs are over. From what it sounds like thats what they are doing. File under exploit again and link to this thread. |
Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
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Posted - 2006.11.21 20:54:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: DazWozUK
Im mining in 0.5 space in my hulk when a group of caracals appear all from the same corp and blow it up. Concord then warps in and blows them up.
I war dec the corp which takes 48 hrs to go live, within the 48 hrs they all form a new corp and leave the corp i decked.
So I war dec the new corp, again within 48 hrs they all leave and form a new corp, so i war dec this corp.
Repeat as above until i hit the max linit of 3 wars. All the corps i have war decked now have 0 members so i cancel the war decks.
I then war dec the latest corp and they all move to the previous corp who's war dec I have had to cancel.
Now I would resort to doing what they did and just pop them and take the sec hit, but they only do missions and are never at belts, the only time I can find them is either at the station or at a gate which means in the time it takes sentries + concord to destroy my caracals I wouldnt have destroyed the targets.
Don't tell me what they are doing is an exploit as I have now been told 3 times that it isnt by the people who rule the game.
Anyone have any idea at all how I can get my own back on these characters??
u were attacked in high sec right ( dont u get 30 day killrights on em which means a free kill anywhere in empire) as for using a hulk solo in high sec bad idea. |
Enotz
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.11.21 20:59:00 - [ 21]
If GMs don't do anything, name 'n' shame 'em. |
DazWozUK
Caldari
Goodfellas holding corp |
Posted - 2006.11.21 21:24:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: DazWozUK
Im mining in 0.5 space in my hulk when a group of caracals appear all from the same corp and blow it up. Concord then warps in and blows them up.
I war dec the corp which takes 48 hrs to go live, within the 48 hrs they all form a new corp and leave the corp i decked.
So I war dec the new corp, again within 48 hrs they all leave and form a new corp, so i war dec this corp.
Repeat as above until i hit the max linit of 3 wars. All the corps i have war decked now have 0 members so i cancel the war decks.
I then war dec the latest corp and they all move to the previous corp who's war dec I have had to cancel.
Now I would resort to doing what they did and just pop them and take the sec hit, but they only do missions and are never at belts, the only time I can find them is either at the station or at a gate which means in the time it takes sentries + concord to destroy my caracals I wouldnt have destroyed the targets.
Don't tell me what they are doing is an exploit as I have now been told 3 times that it isnt by the people who rule the game.
Anyone have any idea at all how I can get my own back on these characters??
u were attacked in high sec right ( dont u get 30 day killrights on em which means a free kill anywhere in empire) as for using a hulk solo in high sec bad idea.
The character who was attacked is an industrialist he has no pvp skills :( |
Riddick06 |
Posted - 2006.11.21 21:28:00 - [ 23]
DazWozUK, relax, breath and just let it go, sure petition them about changing corps theyd get a warning then probably stay in a newb corp to play together.
Iv lost alot of isk and felt like kickin myself but i never bothered stalking the ****s for it. They did it for isk and maybe for that naughty feeling. But seriously take a break from the game and chill. |
DazWozUK
Caldari
Goodfellas holding corp |
Posted - 2006.11.21 21:34:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: riddick06
They did it for isk and maybe for that naughty feeling. quote]
They gained nothing from doing this. Just got there kicks from knowing it cost me 600m.
Fact is they are exploiting to try and get away with it.
They are blatantly exploiting and going against the game rules to avoid my retribution. So If I cant touch em because they are cheating they should be punished by the GM's.
I suggest they be forced to stay in the current corp for one month. That would be ample time for me to get together a huge collection of corpses & hit them for 600m of damages.
Fact is they started this, they brought it upon themselves to attack me, They are cheating to avoid retribution.
Enforce the rules thats what they are there for. |
X ChaosX
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2006.11.22 00:28:00 - [ 25]
When a person leaves a corp, they should remain a legal war target for the duration of the war. If you pay for a week they should be a target for a week, not just 24 hours after they leave. That would fix all this corp hopping bs. |
Hennry Fromer
Gallente
The Radiated Space Gerbils
|
Posted - 2006.11.22 15:37:00 - [ 26]
Can you name and shame please, sounds like they deserve it. |
Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2006.11.22 15:40:00 - [ 27]
Hmm so, if they keep on making new corps instead of rejoingin an old one they can never be dealt with by a GM ? Sounds horribly wrong to me.  |
Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in |
Posted - 2006.11.22 16:10:00 - [ 28]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Hmm so, if they keep on making new corps instead of rejoingin an old one they can never be dealt with by a GM ?
Sounds horribly wrong to me.
It's a bit of an easy mode. Of course, it's the same way rookies with a penchant to start their own new corp can escape war decs from PvP corps trying to push them around. Dunno, I'm partial to both ways. Personally, probably more partial towards the hard way now (no escaping war by leaving a corp!), but that's because I can deal with it now - I wouldn't want to say the same for rookies. Well, I guess they could still try to form an independent division under the wing of a more PvP experienced corp or alliance. I hope you do get your revenge, OP. |
Itoz
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2006.11.22 16:25:00 - [ 29]
Edited by: Itoz on 22/11/2006 16:26:04
This there some forum rule that says you can't name characters and corps? If not start naming names and corps.
Also you could hire a mercenary corp to get them, they are very good at what they do.. |
Laythun
Viziam
|
Posted - 2006.11.22 16:34:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Itoz
Edited by: Itoz on 22/11/2006 16:26:04
This there some forum rule that says you can't name characters and corps? If not start naming names and corps.
Also you could hire a mercenary corp to get them, they are very good at what they do..
Im sure there is no such rule. in fact im 102% sure there is no rule disallowing naming and shaming |
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