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Galum Arfamon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.11.05 23:36:00 - [211]
 

Good luck RISE!

And whoever wins or loses - just make it a good, smack-free and fun fight (a la TOXIN)!

Skelator
Gallente
Stronghold corp
CORPVS DELICTI
Posted - 2006.11.05 23:38:00 - [212]
 

Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:39:35
Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:38:44


Well, you are pretty much clueless as to anything that went on. The former NORAD who are mostly euro couldn't hold their own against YouWhat. So what was really the sense of even having them in the alliance to begin with.
As we are seeing in the fight against the Ronin they can't even hold their own against what is supposedly a weak euro based Rise.
Enough said about it now.


Couldnt hold their OWN?

And you are?

You must be Kidding right?
Even the Major Alliances AND MAJOR PLAYERS of this game have Nothing but Respect for N.O.R.A.D.

Your propaganda is really amusing.. ugh

This is "NOT" a IMP post but my Own Opinion.




Fast Track
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
Posted - 2006.11.06 00:22:00 - [213]
 

Originally by: Skelator
Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:39:35
Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:38:44


Well, you are pretty much clueless as to anything that went on. The former NORAD who are mostly euro couldn't hold their own against YouWhat. So what was really the sense of even having them in the alliance to begin with.
As we are seeing in the fight against the Ronin they can't even hold their own against what is supposedly a weak euro based Rise.
Enough said about it now.




Couldnt hold their OWN?

And you are?

You must be Kidding right?
Even the Major Alliances AND MAJOR PLAYERS of this game have Nothing but Respect for N.O.R.A.D.

Your propaganda is really amusing.. ugh

This is "NOT" a IMP post but my Own Opinion.






Actually, who are you and why are you adding your 2 cents worth here, Skelator. I haven't seen you fighting in OR, so I would just go blabber on some other thread if I were you.

whohuhwhat
Gallente
who's Wholesale and Junk Depository
Posted - 2006.11.06 00:30:00 - [214]
 

Respectfully Fast Track, please do not flame those who you know nothing about.

Skelator and his crew as well as others from IMP fought against and with the residents of OR for a long time.

All i'm asking for is that you allow others to post their feelings and thoughts with out the 'who the hell are you' and 'i haven't seen you do any fighting' etc....

As to the conflict at hand, i won't go into it as there is enough hurt feelings in this thread.

Fast Track
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
Posted - 2006.11.06 00:46:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: whohuhwhat
Respectfully Fast Track, please do not flame those who you know nothing about.

Skelator and his crew as well as others from IMP fought against and with the residents of OR for a long time.

All i'm asking for is that you allow others to post their feelings and thoughts with out the 'who the hell are you' and 'i haven't seen you do any fighting' etc....

As to the conflict at hand, i won't go into it as there is enough hurt feelings in this thread.



People from outside parties posting their opinions about the current affairs of OR really shouldn't base their posts on the past. I'm stating the current flow of events and to have people post relating to bygone years, really doesn't pertain to the facts at hand.
I have the utmost respect for the former NORAD corps that have not shafted Rise, as for the ones that have left us and decided to fight us, that respect will have to be earned.

Fig Neuton
Gallente
who's Wholesale and Junk Depository
Posted - 2006.11.06 00:48:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Fig Neuton on 06/11/2006 00:49:13

whohuhwhat
Gallente
who's Wholesale and Junk Depository
Posted - 2006.11.06 00:49:00 - [217]
 

Fair enough, you have your opinion and if you want to be an ass go ahead.

I am done.


Roland 99
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2006.11.06 01:37:00 - [218]
 

Wow what an *******.

you should be run over in the streets and ****d by angry clydesdales

Skelator
Gallente
Stronghold corp
CORPVS DELICTI
Posted - 2006.11.06 02:12:00 - [219]
 





Couldnt hold their OWN?

And you are?

You must be Kidding right?
Even the Major Alliances AND MAJOR PLAYERS of this game have Nothing but Respect for N.O.R.A.D.

Your propaganda is really amusing.. ugh

This is "NOT" a IMP post but my Own Opinion.



Quote:


Actually, who are you and why are you adding your 2 cents worth here, Skelator. I haven't seen you fighting in OR, so I would just go blabber on some other thread if I were you.


LOL
I guess I Could bring down my Ghost Fleet Cavalry to quiet your nerves but..
Im sure N.O.R.A.D. doesn't need any Help with a Blowhard Forum ***** like you.

AS FOR US NEVER BEING DOWN THEIR IF YOU RESEARCHED THE STUPIDITY YOU SPEWED ON THE FORUMS YOU WOULD SEE YOU JUST MADE A GIANT FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF.. (Again)

Regards
Skelator




Skelator
Gallente
Stronghold corp
CORPVS DELICTI
Posted - 2006.11.06 02:15:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: whohuhwhat
Fair enough, you have your opinion and if you want to be an ass go ahead.

I am done.




I have nothing but MAJOR Respect for you with this Post.
Your Efforts are not useless as we all see their are alot of good players in R.I.S.E. too
Very Happy

Good Luck
Skelator

Soulie
Gallente
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Posted - 2006.11.06 03:08:00 - [221]
 

Calming down and taking a deep breath would perhaps be a nice thing.

This flamefest does not suit either RISE or THE RONIN. Both of our alliances; should and do know that we aint all that bad or all that good and flaming surely is not gonna make us look better.

Grey Council. For whatever reasons you were dragged in here, I on the behalf of PROMO and hopefully RISE as well, offer you an apology. I have not read all the posts on this 8 or 9 pages flamefest board and wont. NORAD was not a bad alliance and wont ever be so in my mind; I am sure FA wasnt either; I didnt fly with them back then. The fact that Nrd and FA merged; tells me only one thing; they liked each other. Now cool it folks; pls.

Soulie

Galdoth
Caldari
FireStar Inc
FATAL Alliance
Posted - 2006.11.06 07:31:00 - [222]
 

Come on cut out the bs guys.
We have a lubberly lil shooting fest going on here so let's just enjoy the game.
Very HappyVery Happy

Kaylis Tzu
Caldari
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2006.11.06 09:24:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Soulie
This flamefest does not suit either RISE or THE RONIN. Both of our alliances; should and do know that we aint all that bad or all that good and flaming surely is not gonna make us look better.Soulie


Agreed... RISE has complete repect for N.O.R.A.D and the history they built. They hold a very repected place in the history of Eve.

The forces of RONIN claim that since they were member corps of this great alliance that they can use NORAD's reputaion and it's great history to somehow garner support from those that remember the real NORAD.

I fought along side many great NORAD pilots and those NORAD corps who left RISE and have maintained the great relationships we started have our respect too.

This conflict is between RISE and a handful of Ex-RISE corps (irregardless of previous affilation) who chose to leave the allaince and try to take by force the region they agreed would be claimed by RISE. They may say what they will about what RISE used to be, but they are not fighting RISE's history just as we are not fighting N.O.R.A.D.

RISE and RONIN are who they are today. Let's drop foolish attempts to bring up the past and finish this on the field of battle.

(btw Roland... good to see you. SG says hi)

Ban Tier
Gallente
Times of Ancar
THE R0NIN
Posted - 2006.11.06 22:28:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: Kaylis Tzu

This conflict is between RISE and a handful of Ex-RISE corps (irregardless of previous affilation) who chose to leave the allaince and try to take by force the region they agreed would be claimed by RISE. They may say what they will about what RISE used to be, but they are not fighting RISE's history just as we are not fighting N.O.R.A.D.



Kaylis I thought Vache would be the worst diplomat, but you even top it by being totally clueless.
I have two links for you, so that you have an idea who was NORAD and who not:

Corp stats 05/2006

Corp stats 06/2006

You can move several month back and see NORADs historie.

And now check, what NORAD corps are left in RISE and what corps are shooting you. And pls take also into account the corps, who are "not allowed" to join R0NIN directly and still prefer to shoot at you and fly side by side with us.

So this conflict has become (most) xNORAD vs. (mostly) xFA - like it or not.

But why do you need a justification for shooting ? Just enjoy it. And pls inform yourself a bit more about the who is who in the community, before you make a to great fool out of yourself.

Ban

LordXL
Caldari
Yakuza Corp
THE R0NIN
Posted - 2006.11.06 22:29:00 - [225]
 

Quite simply CHON are and were NORAD.


Kaylis Tzu
Caldari
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2006.11.06 23:31:00 - [226]
 

Edited by: Kaylis Tzu on 06/11/2006 23:46:29
Edited by: Kaylis Tzu on 06/11/2006 23:42:42
Originally by: LordXL
Quite simply CHON are and were NORAD.



If this is true G then why continue to cling to NORAD's reputation and history as an alliance if you can stand on your own. If CHON "are and were" NORAD then why keep invoking the historic NORAD in an attempt to claim legitimacy. It is this kind of arrogence that prevented CHON from ever working productively with the members of RISE and ultimately what will cost you dearly during this conflict.

No body debates that you have good pilots and that you did a great job against Goon. It's not hard to rack up kb kills when you are fighting goon and raiding Syndicate every night. I'll go so far as to say that CHON was still in the top of the RISE kb's while we were in Cloud Ring. But... 60-80% of your kills were in Syndicate and/or not in RISE claimed space.

You guys keep touting your kb's, and those who don't actually look at the stats closely will give you some props. I will remain skeptical about any killboard comment you make and curious as to why you didn't post these 2 months...

NORAD PVP (September 06)
I count 7 real kills for the whole month we were engaged with TOXIN and YW. Am I missing the Toxin kills and is my math right that only 3% of these kills where against YW
NORAD PVP (October 06)
By my count only 26% of all RONIN's kills were against RISE member corps.

Trivia Question 1: In the month of October (in which RONIN began their conflict with RISE) how many noob corps are in the top 5 for most killed by the forces of RONIN?
Trivia Question 2: Which RISE corps appear in the top 5 of most killed during the month of October?

Trivia Answer 1: 3Embarassed (Center for Advanced Studies 22%, Fedral Navy Accademy 15%, and State War Accademy 15%)
Trivia Answer 2: Zero Embarassed


Nalrath Tolahnia
Gallente
GREY COUNCIL
Hydra Alliance
Posted - 2006.11.07 03:44:00 - [227]
 

Originally by: Kaylis Tzu
Random Banter of useless information


Whoever elected you as Senior Diplomat - needs to create an intelligence division, cause your horribly out of date or lacking intel on things.

The NORAD killboard your refering to in Sepember and October is not in anyway a true reflection of Ronin or the 'Ex-RISE' corps shooting RISE currently, CHON and co was mostly using it as a temp solution until a flashy looking killboard could be created for them as a group.

As for September - most of the corps were still a part of RISE and thus using the RISE killboard, since you finally got around to revoking my access 2-3 weeks ago you can be kind enough to go look up the data yourself, if you didnt know something so simple and intelligent as that - then resign and save people the trouble of putting you in your place, it requires effort i'd rather waste elsewhere.

so do us a favour
1: check your intel next time you start quoting stats
2: make the RISE killboard public - if i recall we did vote and approve that action in july or august, its now november (i know democracy is slow, but still).

Gius Adoma
Amarr
Pilots Of Honour
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2006.11.07 08:57:00 - [228]
 

Edited by: Gius Adoma on 07/11/2006 08:58:07
This is where you should be looking for R0NIN's kills:
http://kb.eve-ronin.org/

PreTender
Amarr
Band of Freelancers
Posted - 2006.11.07 10:39:00 - [229]
 

Your link is not working gius

Ronin killboard
Chon
Times of ancar
Yakuza

Lucius Ventrue
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.11.13 18:31:00 - [230]
 

Wow lots of politics ...

At anyrate, new to the OR and this conflict all I can say is these encounters on the battlefield are great fun. Thank you on both sides of the conflict for giving me more than enough fun for my $14.95 a month! To think i was a empire ***** for 7 months before joining a 0.0 corp/alliance... pft..

Surprised


Durvaul
Caldari
Eyssian Securities Agency
Posted - 2006.11.13 18:44:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Shivaja
Lots Of Random Stuff


yah, umm, u dont own outer ring btw, u jus live there and no, i dun think u can be kicked from an npc region if ur smart enuff, if ti wasnt, ud be out mmkay?

Blacklight
Caldari
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2006.11.13 19:32:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: LordXL
Quite simply CHON are and were NORAD.


CHON were only allowed to stay in NORAD because they used to mine for BNC, otherwise we'd have kicked them long ago, Shiv doesn't know one end of a gun from the other to be honest.

Razz

P.S. It's still my region (regardless of what myggan and DG claim)

Miss Overlord
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.11.13 21:00:00 - [233]
 

i wonder how anarchy online who are currently strengthing their claim to ex goon space in syndicate will view this conflict up in OR - do AO and AE have an interest in outer ring or are they content to live in sydnicate until bob come to clense the region


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