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welsh wizard
Caldari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK |
Posted - 2006.09.28 11:09:00 - [ 61]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 28/09/2006 11:11:01
Unless some serious changes are made to the sovereignty system and the isk is prevented from devaluing further the big alliances will be around forever.
Pos are borked (too cheap, too quick and easy to deploy, ridiculously large time scale with regards to their removal)
Complexes are borked (in the sense that they are exploited)
The market is borked
The game doesn't run properly (lag)
It's too easy to build an empire too difficult to destroy one. |
Plutoinum
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis |
Posted - 2006.09.28 12:39:00 - [ 62]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 28/09/2006 12:55:56 Originally by: Constantinee
Not all alliances will last forever. One day bob will die one day ascn will die. Its all a matter of time. but as long as they are still here...lets keep shooting they are not stopping us from doing that.
Well, if the server and pos warfare doesn't change much, then those alliances will only die from within. I think there is currently no way to bring an alliance down, if they are strong, also good at logistics and cover all timezones (or cover the time well, when the poses usually come out of reinforcement). The server dies first. Some month ago I was sneaking around a bit in delve with an alt just to see, how the west is. I guess noone would challenge bob for a real war with the goal of conquering delve. Same surely true for ascn space and others. ( Running against strong defenders with hundreds (?) of poses in their space isn't anything most people like to do. ) The best people could reach is probably a stalemate situation over months, until people give up because of not getting further or because BoB/ASCN/other big alliance beats them away. The whole thing with an insane war bill. I suppose such a war would be like (war against RA)².  |
Nez Perces
Amarr
Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:09:00 - [ 63]
I guess this thread became kind of irrelevant with the latest developments on the ASCN - BoB front...  .. worry no more, one of the two could be very much debilitated in the near future.. |
mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:13:00 - [ 64]
Originally by: Nez Perces
I guess this thread became kind of irrelevant with the latest developments on the ASCN - BoB front...
.. worry no more, one of the two could be very much debilitated in the near future..
We will see. Forum smack doasnt equal ingame fighting. Dont get me wrong I hope you are right. I hope whoevers e-peen doasnt measure up gets mad and attacks. |
NeoTech
Minmatar
Star Frontiers
Talos Coalition |
Posted - 2006.09.28 18:16:00 - [ 65]
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mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:28:00 - [ 66]
Originally by: NeoTech
Dont worry... ASCN has heard ur prayers. We'll remove BoB and make u happy... mmkay? :)
I was going to edit my above post a little after reading the pendulam thread however....doas this mean you guys/ASCN/AXE wont be camping HED anymore? I am certain that if my organization were forced to chose sides however hard the decision would be it wouldnt be yours/ASCN/AXE. By the way nothing will change for me anyways. we have no allies within 15 jumps of our home station. We are at war every day. We just dont feel the need to post everytime we change standings is all. |
NeoTech
Minmatar
Star Frontiers
Talos Coalition |
Posted - 2006.09.28 18:31:00 - [ 67]
Originally by: mishkof
Originally by: NeoTech
Dont worry... ASCN has heard ur prayers. We'll remove BoB and make u happy... mmkay? :)
I was going to edit my above post a little after reading the pendulam thread however....doas this mean you guys/ASCN/AXE wont be camping HED anymore? I am certain that if my organization were forced to chose sides however hard the decision would be it wouldnt be yours/ASCN/AXE.
By the way nothing will change for me anyways. we have no allies within 15 jumps of our home station. We are at war every day. We just dont feel the need to post everytime we change standings is all.
so are we... but this is, special. :) |
Hellraiza666
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:40:00 - [ 68]
Originally by: Masta Killa
Many or few, titans or frigs,
they're all nubs 
i heard that masta killa geezer is a nub too Ps. Hi MK <3 |
NATMav
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2006.09.28 18:42:00 - [ 69]
Edited by: NATMav on 28/09/2006 18:42:33
The swing of the pendulum will behave just as intended. Some battles will go one way, some the other, but in the end, the pendulum will return back to rest in the state it began.
In other words, this will change nothing. ASCN has too many pilots, stations, and resources to be taken out completely. I predict that BoB will make a strong first push to take one of the weaker station systems to gain a foothold in the region. By the time that is complete, ASCN will have every other system fortified, and both sides will be stuck in a quagmire in and around the one station system that BoB conquers.
Let's face it, BoB needed help from ASCN in order to lay siege to EC-P8R and it still took a few days with a completely locked down system and no server issues. Multiply that by the ungodly number of stations ASCN has, as well as ASCN's numbers advantage, and it will be long and difficult campaign for either side to gain or lose territory. |
Luke Skyrider
Minmatar
DAB
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 - [ 70]
Edited by: Luke Skyrider on 28/09/2006 19:45:50
Human resources are far more important than anything within alliances and corps. In general, gaming groups are about people and ships, ISK etc. are only tools.
Good teamplayers and leaders are a deadly mix in EvE, that can turn every small alliance into a rising star. 1M SPs teamplayers are a better corp asset than 10M SPs self-centered players. Everyone must give some of their online gaming time back to the team in order to survive because to run a succesful corp or alliance are alot of work.
Alliance members with a good team spirit are the greatest asset, not ISK. Get to many "bad apples" and the team will die, 100% guarantee.
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Kasak Black
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2006.09.29 15:56:00 - [ 71]
To the OP, all Alliances fall, given time all Alliances will fail. Some examples... The Roman Empire and the British Empire Two of the biggest Empires man has ever known, some of the richest too. And here we are in 2006, with new world players like America and China. In time, these will fall, and someone else will come along. It don't matter how big and rich they are, there is always someone stronger, smarter, richer and better to take over  |
Michuh
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.09.29 16:24:00 - [ 72]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Actually with good leadership, alliances can last many many years. Mostly it just depends on whether someone with the skills and interest is available when a time for transition occurs.
EVE simply isn't going to be around long enough that its strongest alliances are doomed to failure. They could easily outlast it.
Ive a funny feeling your wrong about that.. CCP have hit on a framework, that may well last several more years.. |
Swinton Wolsoncroft
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.08.31 21:10:00 - [ 73]
ITT BoB grabs the shaft of their nearest corpmate and goes full on for broke. |
Stinkywrix
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.08.31 21:11:00 - [ 74]
WOAH A BLAST FROM THE PAST |
Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless- |
Posted - 2007.08.31 21:19:00 - [ 75]
well that was big and clever  |
Lord Eidion
Caldari
North Star Networks
Executive Outcomes |
Posted - 2007.08.31 21:43:00 - [ 76]
Quite a nice necro, nice wif the dates and all... and still valid.... but necromancy is still bad... cus dead things should be left alone lest they take on a life on it's own. ;p |
Patch86
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2007.08.31 22:02:00 - [ 77]
Lol, shows how little has changed. I didn't even realise I was reading a necro until I saw someone mention ASCN |
dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas. |
Posted - 2007.08.31 22:14:00 - [ 78]
I'm in a soon to be moderated thread \o/
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Gericault m0id
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2007.08.31 22:34:00 - [ 79]
Four letters: Rome |
Lord Eidion
Caldari
North Star Networks
Executive Outcomes |
Posted - 2007.08.31 22:41:00 - [ 80]
Originally by: Gericault m0id
Four letters: Rome
What does the Italian capital have anything to do with this? |
ISD Valorem
Amarr
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.08.31 22:45:00 - [ 81]
Necro |
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