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BlackKnight
Posted - 2006.09.03 05:35:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: GM Eldini
You can actually figure this out using in game tools, BlackKnight.
Note that we do not offer support via EVE Mail and if we are in game we do not answer conversations.

File a petition, we will do all we can to help.

Regards,
GM Eldini
EVE Online Customer Support




Thanks for responding. I already pretty much assumed that every GM in the game would have the "ignore mode" engaged. I would if I were in that position myself.

/me avoids discussing the petition system like the plague Shocked

/flame off

Regards,

BK

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cryptic edge
Caldari
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.03 07:51:00 - [32]
 

Im curious just for the numbers of gm's employed for statistical reasons. It would take a little more work than I care to put into it to look all that up myself :P

Kala Veijo
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.09.03 08:34:00 - [33]
 

Is there any way i could buy a beer for GM every time he answers my petition?

CCP Ginger

Posted - 2006.09.03 08:40:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Is there any way i could buy a beer for GM every time he answers my petition?


If there was you can be sure it would have been implemented by now Smile

DropZone 187
Posted - 2006.09.03 08:45:00 - [35]
 

In this one thread there has been more contribution posts from the devs and mods than all others combined in the past week at least.

Nice to know they still read the threads, but it also points out that the current state of the forums has regressed so badly that they are choosing to avoid rather than participate.

Thanks forum trolls.

I got an idea, ban forum trolls!


Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.09.03 08:53:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: DropZone 187
In this one thread there has been more contribution posts from the devs and mods than all others combined in the past week at least.



I think the devs actually should respond less and less, because these days people are so used to them replying that they are demanding it. Shocked

Also when the devs do reply to something, people ask more questions and then complain about those questions not being answered. I bet the devs could spend all day in these forums and still not satisfy everybody. Not to mention no work on the game would be done.

So yeah, I think dev replies should be unusual. They shouldnt feel forced to reply to stuff, and players shouldnt demand their replies either. They DO read the forums and have said so many times. But they cant be expected to reply to threads, because it only leads to more questions. Important questions are answered, but sometimes it takes a few days for various reasons.

Dev blogs is the way to go.

Death Kill
Caldari
SolaR KillerS
UN1CUM
Posted - 2006.09.03 08:57:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: DropZone 187
In this one thread there has been more contribution posts from the devs and mods than all others combined in the past week at least.



I think the devs actually should respond less and less, because these days people are so used to them replying that they are demanding it. Shocked




Well its their fault that they started replying in the first place.

I doubt CCP would have had such a loyal playerbase if it hadnt been for the two way communication.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.09.03 09:09:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Death Kill

Well its their fault that they started replying in the first place.

I doubt CCP would have had such a loyal playerbase if it hadnt been for the two way communication.


Two way communication... thats one way to see it. I see it more like one side is demanding things and the other side is trying to answer some demands, but continually gets critizised for not replying enough. Not a very healthy form of communication, is it...

Yes, the players (including me) thinks ccp is fantastic, and thats also one of the reasons why I think its unfair to demand replies. If you really care about the devs, you dont want them to just fill your needs, do you?

Death Kill
Caldari
SolaR KillerS
UN1CUM
Posted - 2006.09.03 09:23:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Death Kill on 03/09/2006 09:25:47
Edited by: Death Kill on 03/09/2006 09:24:51
Originally by: Jim McGregor

Yes, the players (including me) thinks ccp is fantastic, and thats also one of the reasons why I think its unfair to demand replies. If you really care about the devs, you dont want them to just fill your needs, do you?



Demanding replies is silly. However, that fact doesnt conflict with my original statment.



edit :

Quote:

If you really care about the devs, you dont want them to just fill your needs, do you?


My needs? You mean like FIXING the game before they come up with rubbish features such as multi language support and new content while the game is fairly broken?

I would very much like them to fill my needs.

The new hardware were supposed to cure lag, it didnt-. Instead we have jump que to 'fix' the lag issue. seams like a cheap, half ass solution to me.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.09.03 09:31:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 09:33:08
Originally by: Death Kill

My needs? You mean like FIXING the game before they come up with rubbish features such as multi language support and new content while the game is fairly broken?

I would very much like them to fill my needs.

The new hardware were supposed to cure lag, it didnt-. Instead we have jump que to 'fix' the lag issue. seams like a cheap, half ass solution to me.


No, I mean your needs as in "demanding replies" in the forum. They are working on "fixing" the game constantly - they are devs. Them not replying in the forum doesnt mean they arent fixing/creating stuff. Surely you can see this.

I agree that there are tons of things to whine about... stuff people feel they dont need or want, or the devs focusing on the wrong things etc. So what would you have them do... reply to those threads? What good would it do? They wont change their objectives - its their game. They read the feedback and if they continue to go ahead with stuff, its their choice. No need to respond to every thread written by people who dont like the changes. Its just a waste of time for them.

Usually they respond in blogs instead, which is better because alot of people read the blogs. Its easy to miss a dev reply in a thread somewhere, specially if you are not a frequent visiter of the forums.

Death Kill
Caldari
SolaR KillerS
UN1CUM
Posted - 2006.09.03 09:34:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Death Kill on 03/09/2006 09:34:50
Originally by: Jim McGregor


No, I mean your needs as in "demanding replies" in the forum. They are working on "fixing" the game constantly - they are devs. Them not replying in the forum doesnt mean they arent fixing/creating stuff. Surely you can see this.


I've already stated that demanding this and that isnt the right way to do things havent I?

Quote:

I agree that there are tons of things to whine about... stuff people feel they dont need or want, or the devs focusing on the wrong things etc. So what would you have them do... reply to those threads? What good would it do? They wont change their objectives - its their game. They read the feedback and if they continue to go ahead with stuff, its their choice. No need to respond to every thread written by people who dont like the changes. Its just a waste of time for them.



Ofcorse, but the way things are today it seams they are driving in the 5th gear, and they build the road as the go... if you know what I mean(dunno how to translate it correctly)



edit : For the record, I am quite fond of CCP too.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2006.09.03 09:41:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 09:41:23
Originally by: Death Kill

Ofcorse, but the way things are today it seams they are driving in the 5th gear, and they build the road as the go... if you know what I mean(dunno how to translate it correctly)



I know what you mean... but I think its actually us players that are uncertain of where the game is heading. Its not easy to get a picture of the future just from the blogs... Tux talks about reducing blobbing for example. None of us know how this will work out or affect the game. So it creates uncertainty...and we all like to imagine the worst case scenarios, dont we... :)

Im trying to just relax and enjoy the ride... even though I have a hard time staying out of ship balance threads. :p

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.09.03 10:00:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 03/09/2006 10:05:15
By my count, we have approximately 53 GMs, assuming all the people with "GM" as their name's prefix are in fact GMs and not imposters (but by Wrangler's post, I doubt there are any imposters, eh Wink?).

Just for those of you wondering btw, that's nearly 2.7k players / GM, not counting multiple accounts ofc. Wonder why the petition system is backed up Laughing, just a statement.

*hides*

Death Kill
Caldari
SolaR KillerS
UN1CUM
Posted - 2006.09.03 10:06:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Jim McGregor

even though I have a hard time staying out of ship balance threads. :p



Your work there is far from overWink

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2006.09.03 10:14:00 - [45]
 

EVE-Search holds a list of all GM, Devs and ISD people using the forum, maybe not the full list but as complete as is publicly available.

/c

CCP Sharkbait

Posted - 2006.09.03 10:15:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
I can already impersonate GM's.

Hi, I am GM Sw00sh. How may I serve you?


you suck at impersonating GM's. Sw00sh has left CCP to go to school. i think anyways, but if i'm wrong, i'll be sure to close your account on monday. haha Twisted Evil

only joking, but i am sure Sw00sh left for school

Caztra Tor
Posted - 2006.09.03 14:03:00 - [47]
 

Ohhh, ya think this thread has hit a nerve?

Well, as far as harrassing GM's, Bro, if your in the game I can hunt you down and blow you out of the sky. Assuming a level playing field. That is Eve. Messaging or spamming of any kind i'm sure is bannable, but if I ever see a GM in 0.0, or for that matter, If i can hunt you down using my locator agent, I am going to want that corpse. And if that gets me banned then I think i'll go back to Zelda . . .

ugh

Darg Even
Posted - 2006.09.03 15:32:00 - [48]
 

Are all GMs member of a GM corp? I found one in a newb corp.

Malthros Zenobia
Posted - 2006.09.03 16:23:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Caztra Tor
Ohhh, ya think this thread has hit a nerve?

Well, as far as harrassing GM's, Bro, if your in the game I can hunt you down and blow you out of the sky. Assuming a level playing field. That is Eve. Messaging or spamming of any kind i'm sure is bannable, but if I ever see a GM in 0.0, or for that matter, If i can hunt you down using my locator agent, I am going to want that corpse. And if that gets me banned then I think i'll go back to Zelda . . .

ugh


Enjoy Zelda, not that you have a snowball's chance in hell of destroying a GM ship.Wink

Weirda
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.09.03 16:29:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: DuckForceOne
sure there is a great need to have a gm list..

how else are we going to send them thank you notes, love letters, nude pictures of Oveour, propositions and ask them if they want to buy some isk? Very Happy


eeeh i wonder whats worse here.... that you want to send nude pics of oveur or that you actually have nude pics of oveur .



EvE Sub come with .5 gig of Oveur Nudes... did you not get yours?

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.09.03 16:49:00 - [51]
 


If you want a list of GM's in Eve... simply run a charcter search under people and places for "GM " (with a space after it).

That will show a list of GM names for you.

Although it's pointless, and you'll get into a lot of trouble for trying to rip-off or mess with GMs in any way.


Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
Posted - 2006.09.03 18:30:00 - [52]
 

Actually what would be useful, would be if the Senior GMs were listed as such, so when we get completely contradictory responses from 2 different GMs, we know which one is more authoritative.

Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.09.03 18:43:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Sadist on 03/09/2006 18:42:49
Originally by: Verone

If you want a list of GM's in Eve... simply run a charcter search under people and places for "GM " (with a space after it).

That will show a list of GM names for you.

Although it's pointless, and you'll get into a lot of trouble for trying to rip-off or mess with GMs in any way.




That wont give you an exact number, since there are more than 25 GMs and thats the limit for the character search. However that gives you a nice estimate.
Judging from that I'd say there are about 50 GM's in the game. That is a reasonable number since the total CCP staff is 168, like they said in the blog.


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