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The Reclaimer
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 08:36:00 - [ 31]
Edited by: The Reclaimer on 08/10/2003 08:39:01 Quote:
Edited by: Alynthir on 08/10/2003 08:26:43
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I wonder who even attempted to write your thingy. It smells of a high schooler who got a "C" in English class. It comes across as an attempt to sound educated, yet lacks even a resemblence of proper grammer. Good job guys once again.
Our...'thingy'? LOL!!
In response, the language and formatting of international treaties is much different from every day literature. It was decided by the Coalition to use such language instead of just throwing a bunch of ad hoc rules together. Continue to flame the CC Treaty if you wish; all you are doing is showing your ignorance of real life diplomacy.
Could you please tell me the name of ONE moo guy in Curse? You keep rattling off this prattle yet you never bring any facts. Also, how many corps do you think are in the CA? That is what I thought. Is my corp a pirate corp now? You named a few corps that may have a checkered past. How does this make us a pirate alliance? You again prove your ignorance. By the way, I just pulled up the Geneva Convetion Treaty and the United Nations Treaty. I must say that if you claim to use those type of documents as a template you failed miserably. Read for yourself. |
Seleene
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2003.10.08 08:54:00 - [ 32]
Edited by: Seleene on 08/10/2003 08:56:10I think the Reclaimer should have run for California Governor!! From what I've seen of the CA, there is nothing that makes me want to dispute what I've heard from the CC or my fellow corp members. Sinister, Space Invaders, Moo, VoTF, Fallen Angels, Red Corsairs, Jokers, blah blah blah. You're all the same to me: food for my guns!  Yeah, the CC treaty is a bit WORDY, but it's actually easy to understand. I did a couple searches myself and it looks a lot like NATO to me. Which, if I understand the CC's goals correctly, is pretty much what they want to be seen as. |
Dobbo
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2003.10.08 09:31:00 - [ 33]
Edited by: Dobbo on 08/10/2003 09:31:50 Quote:
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I'd love to know who re-wrote the CA 'constitution'. That's a riot! 
Just to clarify a couple things:
Stain is at war with Sinister and anyone who allies themselves with them. That is thier primary reason for being in Curse. Even as powerful as Stain is, they do not have the power to lock down and claim both the Stain and Curse regions. They have even admitted this publicly on these forums, so the CA's claim to the contrary is absurd.
As for the SA being pirates in thier own territory, I disagree. Regardless of what anyone says, I remember when the SA was first forming. Nexus Enterprises was even invited by Military Technologies Group and Galactic Foriegn Legion to apply for a position with Stain. We declined because, at the time, we wished to remain independant. Our decision was respected and we have maintained our ties with our friends in Stain ever since.
The point is that the corps that initially moved out to Stain were not pirates. They were simply a like-minded group of companies that decided to pool thier resources and ensure thier mutual survival. They established protocols that were published for one and all to see. This is a LOT different than a group of pirate corps suddenly deciding to stop murdering people and claiming an area as thier own. For months, Sinister and Moo were the largest terrorist organizations in EVE. And now they want to take the high ground about issues such as SLAVERY? Please.
Also, just FYI, Nexus Enterprises, nor any other member of the Curse Colation, endorse or support slavery in any way (except for a couple alts that spend all thier time in the factories!). The slave trade is one of the many reasons Nexus left Amarr Imperial space and came to Curse in the first place.
Lastly, this war could be stopped tommorow if the corps that have proven themselves to be pirates prior to, and during the conflict, would simple LEAVE.
Sinister, Red Corsairs and Vengeance of the Fallen are not fooling anyone into thinking they have 'gone straight'. Thier declared 'lock down' of Curse is simply an excuse to blast anyone they see fit. They don't have to 'pirates' anymore. Now that they are in an Alliance, it's all legal-like. 
I wonder who even attempted to write your thingy. It smells of a high schooler who got a "C" in English class. It comes across as an attempt to sound educated, yet lacks even a resemblence of proper grammer. Good job guys once again.
Hehe, I love how the Curse Alliance of Pirates has resorted to insulting our grammer skills. Like anyone really cares Reclaimer, no one wants your oppinion anymore.  |
Asimir Kurdugal
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 12:03:00 - [ 34]
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Good to finally hear some acknowledgement of Sinisters lack of reform from a CA member.
When did I say that? From what I have seen and heard Sinister has been on its best behavior. What I said was it would not matter to me even if they weren't. I speak for myself and no one else in the CA. I was addressing your comments regardig Oracle turning their backs on other Minmatar. Which, by the way, I noticed you didnt mention at all. |
Relentless
Minmatar
Relentless Inc
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Posted - 2003.10.08 12:51:00 - [ 35]
My comment was that former compatriots had turned their backs upon you.
I was referring to the Curse Coalition who showed the strength of character to call down the CA because of their willingness to ally with a pirate corp. If Oracle did not join the CA until after this schism, then I apologize for my misconception. There is enough disinformation flooding this forum without my adding to it unintentionally. But my understanding is still that Oracle was part of the CA when the CC split apart.
As for Oracle turning their backs upon the Minmatar, I never said that. (That would be rather stupid, wouldn't it? Since you only recruit Minmatar) But you do ally with a pirate corp whose indiscriminant attacks have included Minmatar along with everyone else. So from one perspective you have turned your backs upon everyone.
Sad that we're back to denial again about Sinister behavior. SIs honest acknowledgement of their piracy shows far more character then the pretense we're getting out of Sinister and CA. |
Asimir Kurdugal
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 13:43:00 - [ 36]
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As for Oracle turning their backs upon the Minmatar, I never said that.
That coupled with the comment about empty rhetoric seemed to imply just that. |
Relentless
Minmatar
Relentless Inc
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Posted - 2003.10.08 14:09:00 - [ 37]
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As for Oracle turning their backs upon the Minmatar, I never said that.
That coupled with the comment about empty rhetoric seemed to imply just that.
As I took "Regardless of weather Sinister are pirates to the core or not, we are freedom fighters." to imply an acknowledgement of Sinisters lack of reform. But on rereading, I see the careful sidestep you took. Anyone that would sponsor a pirate corp like Sinister in Minmatars back yard is no friend of Minmatar. Honest Minmatar pilots are going to pay the price for your weakness. That is why your rhetoric is empty. Righting past wrongs loses meaning when you are inflicting fresh harm. |
Asimir Kurdugal
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 15:12:00 - [ 38]
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Honest Minmatar pilots are going to pay the price for your weakness. That is why your rhetoric is empty. Righting past wrongs loses meaning when you are inflicting fresh harm.
We will cross that bridge when we come to it. As of now, that is not the case. Besides, it's not the free Minmatar I'm worried about. |
XirtamVotf
Amarr
Vengeance of the Fallen
CORPVS DELICTI |
Posted - 2003.10.08 16:29:00 - [ 39]
Well Im apalled at these so called accusations
seeing that we fought sinister and Mo0 in curse for 2 months straight. Umm.. lets see.. no CC people ever showed up.. umm , again we have NEVER pirated a day in EVE. Someone show me a screenie of VOTF EVER firing upon someone first
and NOT being in war with them directly, or them being an obvious spy. Like we all said having a alt character named "noob spy" will get you killed. And most of all VOTF has been in Curse since week 2 of live, or week 3
but we saw none of you there defending . I find it odd that all the corps now come out and claim that they are fighting piracy in one form or another. If half the corps that post this crap were actually there, they would KNOW we are not pirates.
http://www.kmetzner.de/youareanidiot.swf |
Zoraz Murdock
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.08 17:02:00 - [ 40]
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Just one comment, I love how CA can't kill anyone in Curse in a time of war because it makes us pirates, yet SA can kill ANYONE and they are doing what is "right."
You didn't become pirates couse of your actions during this war. This war has come to you BECOUSE you were pirates. The Pirate Curse Alliance has been responsible for blockades and newbie killing. How can you deny being pirates when you fight with M0O???? How dare you denying podding newbies. You sad people are just trying to lie into faces of people who have not met you. Quote:
Once Stain leaves the CA alone, like it should, people will once again be allowed into Curse.
Yes. You used to allow people into Curse. For about 2 jumps. Then you podded their indy and took the loot. The CC was formed to drive you out to stop that from happening. If SA helps us doing that then so be it. |
Asimir Kurdugal
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 17:18:00 - [ 41]
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The Pirate Curse Alliance has been responsible for blockades and newbie killing.
So has the SA. |
Beneb
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 18:13:00 - [ 42]
First get your facts straight. Everyone from CA when it started was anti-pirate and we hunted sinister, KOD, spacepills etc. We only sided with Sinister when MASS and the rest of SA came into Curse unwanted  . They need to keep to their region of space and we'll gladly keep to our region. Before the CC showed up anyone could come into Curse as they pleased. Since then, some CA memebers have been very anti-CC for their own reasons. I honestly don't care what happens with anyone in Curse because we have to many whiners that play this game. Oh my gosh I got killed, so now I'm going to always hate them, never allow them to change and hold a grudge like a 2 year old. I must be the only one who forgets the past and moves on. And since you all love comparing this game to real life, don't you think it'd be wonderful if everyone kept grudges? Why would someone want to kill me in a PVP game? Learn to move on, I see MASS didn't have a problem letting Xeno in their corp. BTW I like Xeno, possibly the only SA member, possibly Dalman too, with a brain and understands this is a GAME. And finally about SA openly admitting they can't hold Curse, are you dumb enough to believe they'd say and mean that? What a great strategy, tell everyone that you aren't as strong as they think, which keeps them in check to begin with. |
The Reclaimer
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 19:19:00 - [ 43]
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The Pirate Curse Alliance has been responsible for blockades and newbie killing.
So has the SA.
Don't forget the FA. Hell, I was Pk'd while exploring there while I was still in my noob corp way before any of this happened. Great guys they are huh? |
The Red
Minmatar
Foundation
R0ADKILL |
Posted - 2003.10.08 20:28:00 - [ 44]
This whole "Curse Alliance of Pirates" thing is pretty funny. It's the new cool "pop culture" word of Eve. So basically you figure since you're having trouble really proving anything other than ignorance you'll just see how many times you can say the word "pirate"? No really, that's cute. Here wait, I've got one.  How about the Stain Alliance of Charlatans? Or the Stain Alliance of Hypocrites? Or just the Sneaky Stain Alliance... heheheh... sneaky sneaky... Keep posting. Laughing makes us all live longer. |
Miru
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.08 20:53:00 - [ 45]
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Everytime someone calls us pirates I break into tears....wait, no I dont. We've been called pirates and terroritsts since we came into existence. Think of something else.
lets see how about " serrosalmo, caribe,man-eating fish ?? oh they put Piranha between Piracy and Pirate ( a freudian slip no doubt ) ok try these: thief, freebooter, plunderer, pillager, marauder, privateer, soldier of fortune - (hmm that wont apply, no soldiering or fortunes in pod killing), corsair (red or any other colour), buccaneer, ranger - (another Hmm also wont work if you never leave station except to camp at a gate), sea rover (space rover) (also wont work same reason as previous), sea robber (space robber), Barbary pirate ( are you into slavery thought you just killed people in pods ?? ), plagiarist ( whoa attacking defenceless books that is low ). could go to the other words for Criminals, robbers, ect but fingers are sore so Asimir what shall we call pirates ?? something with sea faring touch yep PIRANHA fits in there nicely Miru |
Asimir Kurdugal
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:02:00 - [ 46]
I can honestly say that I have never podded anyone, nor looted anyone else's cargo in my career. I dont know what you can come up with that appropriately describes that, but I don't think any of your ideas fit.
Also, none of those names sting anymore then pirate. I guess that's the way it works when it doesn't apply to you. |
Dobbo
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:06:00 - [ 47]
meh, the Curse Alliance of Pirates works for me, becuase thats what you are... Actually Stain wasn't planning full scale war with you until they found that Sinc was in your ranks. There was a few explorers of Stain here and there, nothing really that did anything. I wouldn't call it an invasion, 1 person roaming around curse lol..... anyways, Stain attacked when we began posting about Sinc in the CA on this here forum. I'm really getting fed up with the missinformed people in the CA who keep rambling to make themselves feel good. But if your gonna make a post about facts, at least make them correct. Ok, commence flaming. |
Asimir Kurdugal
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2003.10.08 22:22:00 - [ 48]
Edited by: Asimir Kurdugal on 08/10/2003 22:22:34 Quote:
But if your gonna make a post about facts, at least make them correct.
Which post is that? |
Demerzel
Caldari
MisFunk Inc.
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Posted - 2003.10.09 00:39:00 - [ 49]
Despite being a CA member, I laughed about as much as I did to the tti recruitment post (in response to M3G4's 'death'). Which means I laughed quite a bit.... heh Ya shure ya werent just reciting the Stain Alliance Constitution with dem words 'Stain' and 'Evolution' replaced wit 'Curse' and 'Sinister'? |
erisco
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2003.11.15 23:34:00 - [ 50]
somehow seems relevant again |
TheFatman
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.11.16 00:41:00 - [ 51]
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First get your facts straight. Everyone from CA when it started was anti-pirate and we hunted sinister, KOD, spacepills etc. We only sided with Sinister when MASS and the rest of SA came into Curse unwanted Quote:
? Weren't Red Corsairs one of the original members of CA? They are/were pirates, go look at their website.
From what I have read before and nobody has countered, even before you let Sinister in, you guys were allied with Red Corsairs, and that was the reason for your initial problems with SA. |
Captain Massacre
Caldari
Doomheim
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Posted - 2003.11.16 00:48:00 - [ 52]
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