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Serkis
Caldari
The Funkalistic
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2006.07.21 23:45:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Serkis on 21/07/2006 23:49:59
What if there were no pirates, no pvp, no scammers and no orethiefs?

  • Concord wouldn´t be needed.

  • Everyone would have billions of isk in their wallets.

  • Everyone would just be doing missions and holding hands.

  • Market for named items would crash because of all the npc loot and almost no ship losses.

  • Everyone would be in faction BS´s.

  • Everyone would have full set of +5 implants in one clone, full crystal set in another clone, snake set in third...etc

  • Every 0.0 system would have outpost in it.

  • Eventually all alliances would merge into one super alliance and everyone in eve would be members of that alliance which would be called Veldspar Alliance.

  • Everyone would get bored too death and quit.


So what statement is more true:

1. Carebearing is bad for EvE!
2. Pirating is good for EvE!

wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
Posted - 2006.07.21 23:48:00 - [2]
 

man carebears 4tw
they taste good

Kerushi
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.07.21 23:48:00 - [3]
 

carebear builds stuff™
other carebear loses stuff™ to pirate
pirate get ganked by alliance and loses carebear stuff™
alliance fights alliance and alot of stuff™ is lost
carebear builds new stuff™ and repeats the cycle

xeom
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.07.21 23:48:00 - [4]
 

/signed

Kerushi
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2006.07.21 23:52:00 - [5]
 

btw, carebearing isn`t bad, if it wasn`t for us, u`d have no minerals, 0.0000000438% of current day market and no carebears mining rares for corps/alliances to sell in empire as there is no one to mine or sell to

eve is balanced with it, 1 depends on the other, no matter how much each side hates even thinking about it ugh

HunTarr
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2006.07.21 23:55:00 - [6]
 

frying carebears is a good way... i use to cut em up in small pieces and bbq them, though

want salt with that carebear?

Spartanicus
Caldari
Highwaymen
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:00:00 - [7]
 

Are they good dipped in Ranch?

Ras Blumin
A Cross The Universe
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:09:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Serkis
2. Pirating is good for EvE!
That one.

St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:11:00 - [9]
 

And the point of this topic is? Rolling Eyes

Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:12:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Serkis
So what statement is more true:

1. Carebearing is bad for EvE!
2. Pirating is good for EvE!


Statement 1 is false, statement 2 is true.

Brutus Julius
The Scope
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:18:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Serkis
So what statement is more true:

1. Carebearing is bad for EvE!
2. Pirating is good for EvE!


Statement 1 is false, statement 2 is true.

good call

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:20:00 - [12]
 

You add nothing to the equation, take yourself out.

Shittake
RONA Deepspace
Rule of Three
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:33:00 - [13]
 

Why must it be carebearing is bad and pirating is good? Are you unable to understand the fact that a variety of both destroying AND building is required in this game?

While I disagree with CCP some of the time, they realize that a variety of professions are required to appeal to the different playstyles in the game. The question is why don't you realize this?

Serkis
Caldari
The Funkalistic
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:34:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: St Dragon
And the point of this topic is? Rolling Eyes


I´ve just seen alot of whining about pirates/scammers/empire gankers and how they are ruining EvE. People have posted silly suggestions about how to "improve" the game to make these professions almost impossible to operate.

This topic is meant to show people that pirating and damaging is the roots that make eve what it is. Fantastic game!
Of course we need carebears as long as the roots are in place. Wink

Tsual
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:45:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Tsual on 22/07/2006 00:45:31
Originally by: Serkis
Originally by: St Dragon
And the point of this topic is? Rolling Eyes


I´ve just seen alot of whining about pirates/scammers/empire gankers and how they are ruining EvE.


Do what a longterm ninja miner does, ignore them.Smile

Pride NL
Posted - 2006.07.22 00:57:00 - [16]
 

Its a vicious circle. PVP'rs needs bears, yet bears need PVP'rs.

Eloc Peptabysmal
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.07.22 01:05:00 - [17]
 

I congratulate the OP on making the best textbook example of a strawman yet known to mankind. Fo'shizzo.

Stephar
The High Priest
Posted - 2006.07.22 01:50:00 - [18]
 

Loot = grass
Carebears = herbivores
Pirates = carnivores

Carebears eat grass, pirates eat carebears. If all the carebears get eaten, the pirates will have nothing to eat... unless they become carebears themselves and start eating grass.

Moo.

LWMaverick
Posted - 2006.07.22 02:01:00 - [19]
 

Rolling Eyes

Hydrian Alante
The Loot Company
Posted - 2006.07.22 02:54:00 - [20]
 

You don´t need carebears to build stuff.

You don´t need carebears to do some mining.

So let´s bbq them. YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Jarnisso
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.07.22 03:40:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Jarnisso on 22/07/2006 03:41:59
YARRRR!! vs ugh

Sigh...

Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
Gilead's Bullet
Posted - 2006.07.22 03:48:00 - [22]
 

Carebears feed pirates, pirates give KD something to chase.

Therefore, carebears are good.

Tamira Delores
Posted - 2006.07.22 13:29:00 - [23]
 

this sounds just like the classic old stupid argument.. what came first.. the egg or the hen...

both arguments are stupid... being a pirate or a carebear is stupid..
just play the game... and quit whining...

Plutoinum
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2006.07.22 13:54:00 - [24]
 

If EVE had been like that from the beginning, I would have left long time ago after getting bored.
I wouldn't be complaining, because it would be on my 'just another boring game that I've tried list' Laughing

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2006.07.22 14:02:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 22/07/2006 14:02:33

Forever day, forever night? Yucks. Life is balanced. We have predators and we have preys. Nothing to see here, move along. ugh

Miss Anthropy
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.07.22 14:29:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Serkis
Edited by: Serkis on 21/07/2006 23:49:59
What if there were no pirates, no pvp, no scammers and no orethiefs?

  • Concord wouldn´t be needed.

  • Everyone would have billions of isk in their wallets.

  • Everyone would just be doing missions and holding hands.

  • Everyone would be in faction BS´s.

  • Everyone would have full set of +5 implants in one clone, full crystal set in another clone, snake set in third...etc

  • Every 0.0 system would have outpost in it.

  • Eventually all alliances would merge into one super alliance and everyone in eve would be members of that alliance which would be called Veldspar Alliance.





You've just described EVE Utopia!!!

To prove it, I deleted the two negative comments from your text, and left the 7 positive comments. Interesting eh?

Lord Frost
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2006.07.22 14:34:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Lord Frost on 22/07/2006 14:34:25
On the contrary my friend...there is a fine line between the term "pirate" and what it really refers to. I believe pirates are good for Eve, however, if your daily ritual consists of ganking, griefing, and sniping... then you are no pirate my friend... perhaps a lame one at best. Carebears... or what I rather call, "genuine good people in the community"... are the fabric of Eve... so rant all you rant about pirates, but until a pirate is actually a "pirate", you need to stfu. Look at it this way... Eve could go on without pirates... Eve could NOT continue without your "carebears".

Topic done. End of story.

Trebor Locke
Gallente
Nexus Aerospace Corporation
Posted - 2006.07.22 14:37:00 - [28]
 

I'm sorry. You do like getting your ships dirt cheap right? Or how about your alliance? I'm sure there is an industrial corp in there because without one you wont have ships, supplies, or very much to maintain a POS or anything else much larger than a BS.

With out us miners, traders, producers, you would still be in your pod my good friend Very Happy

Aodha Khan
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.07.22 15:28:00 - [29]
 

Carebears and pirates are good for Eve. What's not good for Eve is the snipers on both sides of the argument saying one or the other isn't good for Eve.

Serkis
Caldari
The Funkalistic
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2006.07.22 15:43:00 - [30]
 

lol, i cant belive some of the replies and and assumptions im getting to a post that is 95% joke and 5% "virtual" reality check.
I just want to make one thing clear, I am not a pirate like some of you seem to assume, I´m a hardcore carebear. I make weapons of mass destruction and ships. Without pirates, wars and mindless ganking I would probably be unemployed. Very Happy

So, please by all means stop being a carebear and start pirating, meanwhile I´ll be counting isk´s Wink


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