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Topic |
Ur Dirac
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:18:00 - [ 331]
Can we please stop with the accusations of cheating? It's just lag, people, it happens. |
Tuijabird
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:38:00 - [ 332]
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 05:43:19
Keep it up goons. I can post the facts of multiple enemies that lag fighting you. People directly related or leading your corp are telling people what to do to lag. Launch dromes, spam local, invites, mass self destructing pods in same place only after enemies warp in. What do you goons do to lag people that is not so visable as these tactics? i nkow. :) I think you guys have done it all tbh, and said by others before? You use most tactics avaible to you to lag your enemy. Not just your noobie ship tacklers at times. YOU use other things to lag the enemy and Promote it in corp or allaince ops!!! SERIOUSLY tell me i'm wrong so i can post logs and screens. I sick of these tactics. talk back so i can shame you.... sad tactics sad.
Edit - also you know we are supporting the caps that pwned your pos today. You launched drones inside pos to lag NOTHING ELSE and dropped cans at the same time.I don't think EVE is dumb noobies and beleive you have some purpose for doing it. |
Mochalatte
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 05:48:00 - [ 333]
Edited by: Mochalatte on 30/06/2006 05:49:36
i love you omg we are noobies and don't know better atitude. yet when you get lag kills its.OMG YOUR THE LEET SWARM THATS ALWAYS UNDER ESTIMATED.you got punked out today in every fashion of combat it seems on killbs.this is only the beginning of this i would guess.though as good as forum *****s and talking you do noramly in forums. EVE is not as dumb as you think they are. |
Dinique
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.06.30 06:03:00 - [ 334]
 Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Edit: I'd also like to ask how it benefits GoonSwarm to lag the system when we jump in on your dreadnought, and support fleet later on? When we jumped on your support fleet, I couldnt even lock anyone, and almost died after waiting to warp out for about 5 minutes. I can sort of understand how lag helps a defending fleet, but i dont see any advantage in lagging our own offensive fleets out. There were 400 people in local. There was a 150vs200 person fleet battle. There was lag. It was nobodies fault.
All the complaints so far has been about activities at your POSes, as far as I can tell. And there it DOES benefit the defender to lag (even if it does screw your own fleet over), since the POS is unaffected by this and just keeps firing while whomever its firing at can't use modules/warp away. I am not convinved that you guys are doing it on purpose though, this is nowhere near what it was like in S-U when you guys DID try to do this :P The lag is nasty though, it takes just over 5 minutes to jump into XZH if you are lucky, and then after you are in system, it takes another 5 just for the grid to load so you can see the bubbles around the gate :P The module lag is a pain in the ass, and we have screenshots of the log window showing how you are at times unable to activate any modules or tell your ship to do anything for well over 10 minutes at a time. That was with +- 340 in local, which isnt as bad as it was at peak of close to 450 I believe. |
MacDuncan
Minmatar
Evoke.
Ev0ke |
Posted - 2006.06.30 06:14:00 - [ 335]
Originally by: Cringeley
We have cans deployed in our POS to distribute ammo. Drones are deployed to fight you in space when we think you are planning to approach. Were you even there, or are you going on the third hand reports of some guy who has a friend who had a covops there?
Well...again i'm getting seriously curious: Deploing ammo cans - sure, valid point, granted Deploing drohnes within the force field directly after warp in to attack our ships - wtf??? How can Acolytes I e.g. harm a dread in siege mode? How can Acolytes I attack support over 250km distance? How can you even get a lock INSIDE the field? Might be a valid 'tactic' IF you were planning to approach any target at all manually outside the force field...but you never 'approached' since you all warped to a gang member...so all your drones would have been left in abandomned in space. A couple of lonely Infiltrator I's were floating around abandomned inside the POS after your unsuccessfull 1st try to down a dread yesterday. i guess they were 'guarding' something? I don't complain about assigned fighter drones, notice that plz. So, honestly, i still don't see ANY reason at all to deploy your combat drones after warping WITHIN the field besides creating more lag than usually in order to lag the dread pilot out of action. Perhaps you could enlighten me with another explanation?? And yes, i was there, personally, with this char...  |
Kaldaine
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2006.06.30 06:18:00 - [ 336]
Originally by: Mochalatte
Edited by: Mochalatte on 30/06/2006 05:49:36
i love you omg we are noobies and don't know better atitude. yet when you get lag kills its.OMG YOUR THE LEET SWARM THATS ALWAYS UNDER ESTIMATED.you got punked out today in every fashion of combat it seems on killbs.this is only the beginning of this i would guess.though as good as forum *****s and talking you do noramly in forums. EVE is not as dumb as you think they are.
You are currently smacking 2-3 well thought out posts by GF directors and 10-20 alt posts. The fact that you are smacking alt posts speaks volumes. So far all I have seen from D2 and their allies are excuses as to why they are not doing well and havent kicked an alliance full of 7 million sp characters out of one system. Maybe if CHSN were involved it would already be over  |
Space Negro
Minmatar
Doomheim
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:22:00 - [ 337]
Originally by: Dinique
All the complaints so far has been about activities at your POSes, as far as I can tell. And there it DOES benefit the defender to lag (even if it does screw your own fleet over), since the POS is unaffected by this and just keeps firing while whomever its firing at can't use modules/warp away.
I am not convinved that you guys are doing it on purpose though, this is nowhere near what it was like in S-U when you guys DID try to do this :P
The lag is nasty though, it takes just over 5 minutes to jump into XZH if you are lucky, and then after you are in system, it takes another 5 just for the grid to load so you can see the bubbles around the gate :P The module lag is a pain in the ass, and we have screenshots of the log window showing how you are at times unable to activate any modules or tell your ship to do anything for well over 10 minutes at a time. That was with +- 340 in local, which isnt as bad as it was at peak of close to 450 I believe.
Holy crap you must be the one intelligent D2 member that posts on these forums. |
Happydayz
Caldari
Syndicate Liberation Army
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:23:00 - [ 338]
Originally by: DrLogan
And to add to that, all the goons at one point spammed local. And just to clarify, 1 person didn't speak more than once, they just all simultaneously said "fofofofofo" in local.
Unhonorable tactic..
FYI: the fofofo is an old joke from UO and pretty much only done AFTER a major battle. To claim that it is an "unhonorable" tactic is a little silly as it is done after the decisive engagement and past the point where it really matters (clean up fleets notwithstanding). Speaking of dishonorable: is there any actual evidence that a D2/STV dread pilot got his account suspended because they falsely filed a stuck petition in order to save their ship? |
PopeZeus
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:30:00 - [ 339]
Edited by: PopeZeus on 30/06/2006 07:30:21
The mass destruction of pods are Goonfleet members podjumping back to their home in Syndicate to grab more ships and convoy up.
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Personally I fail to see how the fofofofo's lag the system. One person does one line of it then it is left alone. I don't see how chat can cause so much lag as to delay you in activating your modules. When you go into pvp do you close all your windows except Corp, Alliance, Local, and Gang? No, you don't. If you are complaining about chat causing lag then petition CCP to make Corp, Local, and Alliance closable.
Anyway good luck Goons, I have faith in you.
Also, good game on logging out the dreads and filing a stuck petition to get them moved. How "honorable" of a tactic. |
Tuijabird
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:31:00 - [ 340]
Mr bandwagoner. If it was true proof would be posted eh? lol. Go gang bang someone else in another thread or in game k? as thast the only thign ur good at.
thanks kindly |
Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:32:00 - [ 341]
Originally by: Happydayz
FYI: the fofofo is an old joke from UO and pretty much only done AFTER a major battle. To claim that it is an "unhonorable" tactic is a little silly as it is done after the decisive engagement and past the point where it really matters (clean up fleets notwithstanding).
I assume LV was there then since you know how it was used in this instance or what? |
Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:34:00 - [ 342]
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58 Originally by: PopeZeus
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate. |
Tuijabird
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:34:00 - [ 343]
Originally by: PopeZeus
Edited by: PopeZeus on 30/06/2006 07:30:21
The mass destruction of pods are Goonfleet members podjumping back to their home in Syndicate to grab more ships and convoy up.
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Personally I fail to see how the fofofofo's lag the system. One person does one line of it then it is left alone. I don't see how chat can cause so much lag as to delay you in activating your modules. When you go into pvp do you close all your windows except Corp, Alliance, Local, and Gang? No, you don't. If you are complaining about chat causing lag then petition CCP to make Corp, Local, and Alliance closable.
Anyway good luck Goons, I have faith in you.
Also, good game on logging out the dreads and filing a stuck petition to get them moved. How "honorable" of a tactic.
Yet another sad person that got just pwned by d2 etc. Like the goons recently. PWNED and sore from it. sad sad era just stfu k? you have no room to talk. |
Cringeley
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:38:00 - [ 344]
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful. |
PopeZeus
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:43:00 - [ 345]
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Originally by: PopeZeus
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
Because the other night the Revelation and Naglfar weren't more than 10km from the POS right? Some people fly covops. Or you might have noticed my pod about 400km off the POS in the opposite direction of you guys, watching from afar. |
Tuijabird
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:48:00 - [ 346]
Originally by: Cringeley
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
your being a hypocrite to be funny right...? |
KIATolon
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:52:00 - [ 347]
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
You think all our accounts are in cache? ;) |
Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:54:00 - [ 348]
Originally by: KIATolon
You think all our accounts are in cache?
;)
You know what they say about hope  |
Mochalatte
Gallente
Dark Angel Battalion
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 07:55:00 - [ 349]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
You think all our accounts are in cache?
;)
no.. but we know you've been pwned to hell and back and are sore from the pwnage. so go fan boi else where buddy and try to support goons even more than you have been mr neutral.. lol. |
Cringeley
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 08:01:00 - [ 350]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Originally by: Cringeley
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
your being a hypocrite to be funny right...?
No, I'm saying that you in particular are carrying on like the worst kind of newbie jackass, in a manner that would rapidly have you expelled from goonfleet. If you want to discuss server resources, tactics, or any other aspect of gameplay, then we'll be right here to have a well composed, grammatical discussion with you. But if all you want to do is talk smack against alts and call people names then I would recommend, as I said above, that your superiors put your head in a bucket before you smear any more mud on their reputation. |
Fedaykin Naib
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem |
Posted - 2006.06.30 08:31:00 - [ 351]
What has happened to WOODY!?!?!?!?!? and Phonix?!?!?!!?!?! |
Stamm
Amarr
RHC
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2006.06.30 08:35:00 - [ 352]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Tuijabird
Originally by: Cringeley
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
your being a hypocrite to be funny right...?
No, I'm saying that you in particular are carrying on like the worst kind of newbie jackass, in a manner that would rapidly have you expelled from goonfleet. If you want to discuss server resources, tactics, or any other aspect of gameplay, then we'll be right here to have a well composed, grammatical discussion with you. But if all you want to do is talk smack against alts and call people names then I would recommend, as I said above, that your superiors put your head in a bucket before you smear any more mud on their reputation.
I see the Goonfleet Propaganda machine is in full swing. Everybody knows this thread is packed with goonalts. Having fought your fleets in Syndicate I know you drop cans to cause lag. The GMs even had to stop you last time. I've seen the offensive bookmarks you drop outside hostile stations. I know you will use any game mechanic you can to your advantage, dubious or not. Goonfleet have had some measure of respect from their opponents, and indeed some has been earned. It's rare to see goonsmack in local, it happens, but it's rare. You have achieved a great deal. You're never ones to back down from a fight. But when you start abusing game mechanics you waste all that. And when your leader, who smacks enough for all of Goonfleet combined, posts racist remarks in ill taste, you're not winning yourself any respect. |
Eonov
Minmatar
Aura of Darkness
Nulli Secunda |
Posted - 2006.06.30 08:36:00 - [ 353]
Here,s a new concept, why dont ALL the trolling alts go find somewhere more useful to post thier tactical and situational inconsistances elsewhere, that goes to both sides of the fence, u make ur selves sound pathetic ergo u make ur alliances sound pathetic.
Here are some facts about the recent most engagements, fact a 20 man support fleet of the goons tried to get into xzh last night to bolster numbers, it never left the gate after jumping thru, and that was before the bubbles went up.
Fact, as the dread attack began, this time more prepared for lag ect all went well with sporadic popping of goon ships leaving the bubble of the pos to engage dreads.
Fact, no doubt it will be rinse and repeat tonight because unlike a few that wont be mentioned, the goons are aggressively proactive and will no doubt do as much as possible to undo our actions of last night and have done already.
Fact, the goons have taken very heavy ship losses and contrary to popular belief they arnt all t1 frigs, far from it in fact, but it can also be equally pointed out that thier presence has not been removed so niether side can claim anything at the moment and shouldnt attempt to, its bloody good fighting in there and thats that, so all u *****ing trolls go find somewhere else to post your speculative crap and leave this thread in piece |
KIATolon
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:07:00 - [ 354]
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MacDuncan
Minmatar
Evoke.
Ev0ke |
Posted - 2006.06.30 09:13:00 - [ 355]
Originally by: PopeZeus
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Originally by: PopeZeus
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
Because the other night the Revelation and Naglfar weren't more than 10km from the POS right?
Some people fly covops. Or you might have noticed my pod about 400km off the POS in the opposite direction of you guys, watching from afar.
Erm...i STILL don't see ANY VALID REASON for having drones deployed yesterday evening when the dreads were at about 100km away. And still nobody explained to me how light scout drones are able to harm a sieged dread anyway...!!! Mr. PopeZeus, obviously the master of EvE himself...plz give me ONE reason that is not related with lag creation...i'm still waiting... |
Happydayz
Caldari
Syndicate Liberation Army
|
Posted - 2006.06.30 09:28:00 - [ 356]
Originally by: Stamm
Having fought your fleets in Syndicate I know you drop cans to cause lag. The GMs even had to stop you last time. I've seen the offensive bookmarks you drop outside hostile stations. I know you will use any game mechanic you can to your advantage, dubious or not.
Dropping cans as warp-to points is a valid tactic to counter sniping T2 fitted battleships. It is a low skill point / low isk counter. What do you propose they do instead? Their average pilot is around 4-6 months old, so you can hardly expect goonfleet to have many pilots with T2 large guns trained. Also, any competent enemy FC will not keep his sniping BS fleet stationary long enough for a covops to develop a warp-in, and again covops take a while to train up so it is unreasonable to expect a low skill point corporation to be able to have 20+ covop pilots out at varying ranges from a stargate in order to do warp-ins. Doing simple math, the area of a sphere with a 200km radius (max combat sniping range) is around 33.5 million km3. You can see why you would need to deploy a good deal of cans to use as warp-to points. Do you have another way to counter a T2 fitted sniping BS fleet? And no, having interceptors burn towards them for a warpin isn't a viable tactic as good 'pest pilots will also be able to fire precision cruise missiles for anti-inty defense. The way I see it, goonfleet can either lay down cans to have warp-to points or log off their entire fleet and wait for the enemy to go away. Yet I'm confident that if they did that they would then be getting flamed for being lame and cowardly. |
MasterEYE
Caldari
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise. |
Posted - 2006.06.30 09:31:00 - [ 357]
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50can exsploit? Link |
DeadDuck
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2006.06.30 09:35:00 - [ 358]
With the aproach of the weekend, I think that Cloud Ring is about to see the most violent combats ever seen in EVE.
All the alliances involved there have one thing in common, they all engage regardless the odds, they all love to fight.
I really hope that the node will be reinforced has much has possible so all pilots in there could have fun.
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Pax Uranus
Caldari
ATLAH Galaxywide
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:37:00 - [ 359]
Edited by: Pax Uranus on 30/06/2006 09:39:55One of the more interesting aspects of this entire escapade is if you take a step back and take into account what the victory conditions probably are for either side. What's it going to take for this to be considered a victory for OHGOD? What's it going to take for this to be considered a victory for D2? It sort of makes you think, huh? What isn't changing is that time keeps moving on. Ticktock. As the poster above mentioned, this weekend should have some great pyrotechnics. I may have to dust off a covops and try to sneak into XZH to watch the show  |
Ilmonstre
Minmatar
The Secret Fleet
Brutally Clever Empire |
Posted - 2006.06.30 09:39:00 - [ 360]
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
hmm thats alot of cans just for warpin points and so close to each other and you cant tell me those are the remains of a previous battle. |
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