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LTD THOR
Caldari
Liga Freier Terraner
Ev0ke
Posted - 2006.02.24 04:04:00 - [241]
 

too many replies.. ( like ever.. )

to all directly involved: have fun & make the best out of it! Smile

PSA1SWIPE
Caldari
Zebra Corp
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2006.02.24 04:20:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: The Clash
I still didnt get any " Hi clash " from CE :(

very dissapointed guys Crying or Very sad


Hi clash o/ Kisses

Get on msn now and then numpty

Outlander
Gallente
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2006.02.24 04:53:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Its a public press release posted on the corporations and press releases forum. I'm a member of the eve public with an interest in the politics of 0.0 If you didn't want questions why post a press release in public?


Press release = one way communication.
Press conference = two way communications.
If someone releases a press release in private, does it make a sound?

Altai Saker
Gallente
Rapier Innovations
Posted - 2006.02.24 05:01:00 - [244]
 

Whelp looks like it's time to do some wolf packing for fleet battle stragglers... good luck to both sides.

Black Lotus
Caldari
D.e.V.i.a.n.c.e
Posted - 2006.02.24 05:03:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: Outlander
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Its a public press release posted on the corporations and press releases forum. I'm a member of the eve public with an interest in the politics of 0.0 If you didn't want questions why post a press release in public?


Press release = one way communication.
Press conference = two way communications.
If someone releases a press release in private, does it make a sound?


hahaha pwned.

Jasmine, as i read through ur posts, u remind me of a child, that cant stop asking why.

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.02.24 05:39:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Outlander
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Its a public press release posted on the corporations and press releases forum. I'm a member of the eve public with an interest in the politics of 0.0 If you didn't want questions why post a press release in public?


Press release = one way communication.
Press conference = two way communications.
If someone releases a press release in private, does it make a sound?


Well since Bratzo didn't immediately ask for a locked topic its fair to assume he was expecting some responses and questions or else why use an interactive forum at all? :roll:]

Melchom
Caldari
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.02.24 05:57:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: The Clash
I still didnt get any " Hi clash " from CE :(

very dissapointed guys Crying or Very sad


That is an no going Laughing

Hi clash Wink

Zugor Ikatin
Gallente
Interstellar Operations Incorporated
Posted - 2006.02.24 08:33:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Avon
With the new servers G will soon realise there is no tactical advantage in co-ordinating with an ineffective tech1 mobile lag trap.

I guess at that point IRON will have to find a new niche to fill.

The new servers may have made this move against the rest of the north possible, but it also makes IRON redundant.

\o/ for the new server.


Officially the funniest post ever.

Btw when is G going to attack BoB Smile

1naz
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.02.24 08:43:00 - [249]
 

F1 F2 F3

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:04:00 - [250]
 

Originally by: Black Lotus
I also, seen the same things said about nbsi, yet i knew it couldnt be true, for example EddZ, if they were so weak, how did they inflict billions of losses on kia, and why did kia have to only go for ganks when they declared war, if nbsi were so weak, kia shouldve had np's fighting them head on.


Are you serious?

We bought fleet upon fleet to your "Home" system S-E, and you stayed docked in your station, even when local outnumbered us 2-1. The only reason we were forced to gank you at every opportunity, was that was the ONLY way to get kills from you. I have honestly never seen so many WCS.

THE ONLY Fleet action we saw was from PA in BKG.

NBSI is unfortunatley slipped from the ranks of real alliances, and joined the likes of the PA. You are now virtually totally insignificant in the daily political machinations, with single corps having more influence and more presence in the game every day than your entire "Alliance".

What you should of done, is looked with serious consideration at your NBSI policy much earlier on, but your arrogance and stupidity made you think you could carry it off, even without your main PvP corps who all upped and left.

You got what you desereved, and the forum warriors tore you apart, exposed your underbelly, and made it pretty clear that there wasn't much in game, or out of game for that matter, worth worrying about.

G/Iron are doing the obvious thing, mopping up the weak, and taking the resources for themselves. In 1 day of warfare vs them, we have seen more ships and fights than we saw in 3 weeks from you. They are a real Alliance, with communicatio and the ability to field more than 3 Hacs and a few frigs in response to a strike at their home systems (140 ships+ last night, within just 20 minutes of "Scramble All Ships" order from their high command). You coudnt arrange 140 ships if you were given a week and an empty server to do it.

PA & NBSI = The same. Little running gank squads, with no hope of being anything more, alredy the "we're not dead, honestly honestly we aren't" cries from your members are filtering through, you even SOUND like the PA, can you honestly not see that????. You will sit in your shells and wait for the bad men to go away and then you will claim victory and say you still own your space lol, like the PA has been doing for a year or so now.

ps. CI, seriosuly, stop making yourself look half assed by defending these guys, despite the overall impression your giving on these forums recently, KIA know you guys are quality, associating with PA/NBSI is only gonna make you look part of their joke.

pss Sorry to Op for mildly off topic post.

Claudia Martini
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:05:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Zugor Ikatin

Btw when is G going to attack BoB


G is afraid of BoB because they cannot handle them and so they just going to beat up their former friends to have an excuse that they not must fight BoB.

Just poor.

baldimarr
Amarr
Flight Of Fantasy
The OSS
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:06:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Creyster
G 4TW!!!!!! let the spirit of the KLADDKAKA guide you ..


NSN has been making overt comments like this for quite a while..i had d feeling Mc was neutral/contract shoot only policy...if not let d lovely seleene do the posting.Shocked

baldimarr
Amarr
Flight Of Fantasy
The OSS
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:12:00 - [253]
 

I dunno, my 2 tix but since some changes in g/iron leadership..there has been a very aggressive stance by the new one..kinda gungho approach..I hope all ur plans and approach come to fruition or ur going to be responsible for ruining both alliances future as power blocks. BE very very careful Shocked

Plan Neun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:43:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Mortuus
Lack...of NBSI?? Our whole alliance is up here. Granted we aren't huge but we aren't being rolled over either. Perhaps if you paid a little more attention in game and less to the forums you'd know what was going on? Eh, probably not.

Anyway. Hopefully we'll get some good fights, KAOS has been an excellent opponent. Good folks, no smack. Some FE corps like British Space Corp are also fine enemies.

Let the north burn, and let it be known that you can never remove us from it. In EVE you are only defeated when you decide to stop fighting, and I don't think NBSI plans to do that anytime soon.


We were in the north before xmas and saw sod all of NBSI.

Excuse me if I don't rate your alliance as "significant" enough to answer properly but I'm sure someone knows who you are.

dbp


And 2 weeks after xmas u where thrown out, and lost 2 dreads. Laughing

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pershphanie
Gallente
Black Core Federation
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:47:00 - [255]
 

I resent that fatty implied that tribute is in the north. fade is soooo more northern than tribute. G/Iron = north. Live with it. But kudos on saying screw it and setting everyone to -10. That should make it alot more fun for you guys. good call. I know fate will be happy about that Wink

Fi T'Zeh
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:50:00 - [256]
 

Originally by: Plan Neun
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Mortuus
Lack...of NBSI?? Our whole alliance is up here. Granted we aren't huge but we aren't being rolled over either. Perhaps if you paid a little more attention in game and less to the forums you'd know what was going on? Eh, probably not.

Anyway. Hopefully we'll get some good fights, KAOS has been an excellent opponent. Good folks, no smack. Some FE corps like British Space Corp are also fine enemies.

Let the north burn, and let it be known that you can never remove us from it. In EVE you are only defeated when you decide to stop fighting, and I don't think NBSI plans to do that anytime soon.


We were in the north before xmas and saw sod all of NBSI.

Excuse me if I don't rate your alliance as "significant" enough to answer properly but I'm sure someone knows who you are.

dbp


And 2 weeks after xmas u where thrown out, and lost 2 dreads. Laughing




O RLY ?

Mangus Thermopyle
Caldari
Divine Retribution
Daisho Syndicate
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:51:00 - [257]
 

Sounds like we will have some fun in the north (or east or whatever).

Bring it on Twisted Evil

Plan Neun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.24 09:52:00 - [258]
 

Edited by: Plan Neun on 24/02/2006 09:57:07
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Plan Neun
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Mortuus
Lack...of NBSI?? Our whole alliance is up here. Granted we aren't huge but we aren't being rolled over either. Perhaps if you paid a little more attention in game and less to the forums you'd know what was going on? Eh, probably not.

Anyway. Hopefully we'll get some good fights, KAOS has been an excellent opponent. Good folks, no smack. Some FE corps like British Space Corp are also fine enemies.

Let the north burn, and let it be known that you can never remove us from it. In EVE you are only defeated when you decide to stop fighting, and I don't think NBSI plans to do that anytime soon.


We were in the north before xmas and saw sod all of NBSI.

Excuse me if I don't rate your alliance as "significant" enough to answer properly but I'm sure someone knows who you are.

dbp


And 2 weeks after xmas u where thrown out, and lost 2 dreads. Laughing




O RLY ?


No, ur right u still hold the outpost in JU, doh.Wink

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Mephistos
Amarr
Viper-Squad
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2006.02.24 10:02:00 - [259]
 

Baldimarr, NSN is making comments like that because the leadership corps of G are ex-PA as are NSN, and those two corps have a lot of members that are friends. It has nothing to do with politics :p

Eddz, the only only time I saw a fleet from you folks in our home systems there were about 15 KIA, and a whole lotta F-E.

And the only other times we got near equal numbers you folks were already on your way back to empire.

And we've continued to fight daily, holding our space (with the slight glitch of losing and retaking and losing and retaking, etc of 6oy). Do we have any illusions that we have the numbers to stop G/IRON/RAZOR should they assault us, no, but damnit we'll drown them in our podjuice :p.

Sorry for taking this off topic, but had to respond to Eddz :)

KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2006.02.24 10:36:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: Mephistos
Eddz, the only only time I saw a fleet from you folks in our home systems there were about 15 KIA, and a whole lotta F-E.


Funny that, because the only time we saw you we were there with about 15 BS and a some FE tacklers. Yet KIA were in S-E in a BS dominant Fleet about 10 times over those 3 weeks, I'm guessing you need to log into the game more.

I thikn DBP hit the nail on the head tbh.

Mephistos
Amarr
Viper-Squad
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2006.02.24 10:47:00 - [261]
 

Eddz, I think we established in an earlier thread that some of us didn't see you guys much due to time zone differences. Not a lack of logging in :)

And you may have come up more than that, dunno, but the only time I saw you in S-E in any force (a.k.a. more than just Tjakka running around ganking people) there were about twice your numbers of F-E there as well (primarilly HUNs if I remember correctly), which is a bit more than a few tacklers :p.

Joerd Toastius
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2006.02.24 10:57:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Bratzo
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Bratzo
Edited by: Bratzo on 22/02/2006 22:00:44
G Banner
[snip]


well lots of questions there... lemme see...
I think we can deffinatly say... maybe, maybe not.


I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. +5m isk :P




Anyway, to everyone who's got so wrapped up in politicking that they've become entrenched into the norms of Eve politics and can't think outside the box any more, I'd like to suggest a third engagement rule to break up the "NBSI/NRDS" dichotomy, and that's "NRDSWGR".

It doesn't form a snappy acronym, sure, so it's of limited use in this kind of debate where soundbites are more important than content, but for those actually interested, it stands for "Not Red Don't Shoot Without Good Reason". The reality of war is that mistakes happen and neutrals get popped, and sometimes mistakes don't happen but neutrals get popped anyway for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There's no inconsistency in adopting a general "NRDS" policy and simultaneously warning neutral pilots that, all things considered, they'd be safer if they moved out of the warzone for the duration of the conflict.

Just a thought.

fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.02.24 10:59:00 - [263]
 

Plan neun, your memory must be confuddled, they (BoB) did say about a gazillion times why etc they took JU, roadtrip and even the timeframe they were gonna head home because of other commitments after causin, what was it, 85 Bil damage.

Hell, that wasn't even with an invasion fleet so maybe you should think before you feebly try to flame, bless ya Wink

Plan Neun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.24 11:07:00 - [264]
 

Edited by: Plan Neun on 24/02/2006 11:42:48
Originally by: fire 59
Plan neun, your memory must be confuddled, they (BoB) did say about a gazillion times why etc they took JU, roadtrip and even the timeframe they were gonna head home because of other commitments after causin, what was it, 85 Bil damage.

Hell, that wasn't even with an invasion fleet so maybe you should think before you feebly try to flame, bless ya Wink


Thnx for the blessing, I have not stated speculations on why Bob did this or thus.
Fact is that BoB invaded Deklein space.
I dont care about exuses for an invasion or a retreat for that matter.

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Fi T'Zeh
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.02.24 12:00:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: Plan Neun
Edited by: Plan Neun on 24/02/2006 11:42:48
Originally by: fire 59
Plan neun, your memory must be confuddled, they (BoB) did say about a gazillion times why etc they took JU, roadtrip and even the timeframe they were gonna head home because of other commitments after causin, what was it, 85 Bil damage.

Hell, that wasn't even with an invasion fleet so maybe you should think before you feebly try to flame, bless ya Wink


Thnx for the blessing, I have not stated speculations on why Bob did this or thus.
Fact is that BoB invaded Deklein space.
I dont care about exuses for an invasion or a retreat for that matter.

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Considering you are "Director of Intelligence", you have a remarkable inability to analyse the subtleties of a situation rather than interpret events as you would prefer them to be.

fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.02.24 12:08:00 - [266]
 

Do you honestly believe Neun that BoB is unable to call the troops needed to counter the one's they met during there campaign, i recall one post in particular when someone like yourself was saying they got slaughtered etc etc, and i think it was Blacklight who said 'do you think we cant bring more than a few dreads, more troops, take more stations etc'.

A reocurring theme ive noticed is that if they plan to do something, they will. Try to read in all the information before stating incorrect facts, it doesn't shine well.

Plan Neun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.02.24 12:17:00 - [267]
 

Edited by: Plan Neun on 24/02/2006 12:24:53
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Plan Neun
Edited by: Plan Neun on 24/02/2006 11:42:48
Originally by: fire 59
Plan neun, your memory must be confuddled, they (BoB) did say about a gazillion times why etc they took JU, roadtrip and even the timeframe they were gonna head home because of other commitments after causin, what was it, 85 Bil damage.

Hell, that wasn't even with an invasion fleet so maybe you should think before you feebly try to flame, bless ya Wink


Thnx for the blessing, I have not stated speculations on why Bob did this or thus.
Fact is that BoB invaded Deklein space.
I dont care about exuses for an invasion or a retreat for that matter.

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Considering you are "Director of Intelligence", you have a remarkable inability to analyse the subtleties of a situation rather than interpret events as you would prefer them to be.


To fire and BoB pilot.
I can take it one more time, I have not speculated in BoB's motive regarding this operation.
Do u get it now, or do i have to post it one more time?

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Petite Pierre
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.02.24 12:17:00 - [268]
 

From a historical point of view, Phoenix Alliance is to be admired. Even though some of their political decisions over time I don't agree with, their drive to keep going, and defend themselves either ingame or on forums is something you don't shrug at, but something other large entities wished they would have.

That drive existed back when I was in PA, and it kinda warms my belly to see it still exists, and that there are still people believing in ideals, and long-term goals.
However, Ding-Dong, the witch is dead. The praise for this entity has been sung so many times, it's not funny anymore. While I understand they're weak, possibly stone cold with just a limb twitching, a part of me wishes they would pull some rabbits out of their hats, and keep going.
And that is not because I'm connected to them, because I don't even know anyone in there anymore, it's because - like I said, their drive to keep going is admirable.
Other people would have thrown the towel a long time ago.

Still, we live in a dog eat dog world, and the strong pray on the weak, either we like it or not. Their PR mistakes added up, and it back-fired eventually, through this G/Iron announcement.

I'd be ignorant to say that some statements from PA members didn't tick me off, or that the way they handled F-E betraying them was despicable. Sulk and go on, don't spout acid on the GalNet.

Anyway, known fact that Razor (thus myself) considers itself very very close to G and Iron, so PA, wish you luck, and twitch those limbs for your final(1000th) death.

May there be fun.

Martaak Xaphir
Caldari
The Guardian Agency
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2006.02.24 12:28:00 - [269]
 

Go G & Friends. Smile

Outlander
Gallente
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2006.02.24 12:32:00 - [270]
 

Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Well since Bratzo didn't immediately ask for a locked topic its fair to assume he was expecting some responses and questions or else why use an interactive forum at all? :roll:]


Nice response. Here is mine.

While I can not speak for anyone else's motives, I can provide a plausible reason why a lock one was not requested. Given the amount of activity in this particular communication channel, locked threads tend to get buried quickly. If the purpose of the release was to tell as many people as possible, having it locked would defeat part of the purpose for the release. Interactive responses may not have been a desired goal but a necessary evil to attain the primary goal.


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