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Topic |
Dale Cussler
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.10.31 13:13:00 - [ 1]
Okay, not sure whether this is the proper forum to post this, but for the longest time I've heard people talk that there are no in-game browser compatible forums around. Since I had some spare time today, I decided to try and whip something together.
A very early beta can be admired here: http://www.eve-news.com/igbforum/
Try it, you can also get to it with a regular browser, but read-only.
A lot of stuff doesn't work, is missing, or just flat out gives errors, but I need some people to try and post some topics, reply to a few things, and so on.
Now...
DISCLAIMER
Using the in-game site might lock up your ingame browser, leading to you having to three-finger-salute the eve client. I'm not sure why this happens, it might be my sick HTML skills, or it might be something to do with my own PC. Also, the forum is not finished, might crash, eat your posts, your cat and your dog, or cause you to suffer from severe mental anguish. I take no responsibility. You break it, you get to keep both pieces. Batteries not included. 404: warranty not found.
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TheNecromancer
Caldari
The Royal Order
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:15:00 - [ 2]
the problem is SPEED..IGB is just to slow...
or at least I think it is...
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Dale Cussler
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.10.31 13:18:00 - [ 3]
It's... not the fastest, I'll give you that. But then again, this is just a proof of concept thing, and I might turn it into a hosted service so corps can have in-game forums they can use while doing stuff like mining, or just sitting around in station talking.
It's mostly so that you don't have to run EVE in windowed mode, or alt-tab out to hit up your corp forum.
Still, it renders quite fast, even though it uses *gasp* tables. 2 seconds, give or take on my browser, and with some sane limits on posts/topics per page, you can keep it relatively fast. I think... |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.10.31 13:41:00 - [ 4]
 Originally by: TheNecromancer
the problem is SPEED..IGB is just to slow...
or at least I think it is...
You're not alone. :) It's very slow. WDA just recently made the jump to be both IGB compatible while working with external browsers. Going to a site with a lot of comments (large number of table rows) can have it loading for many seconds. Granted, the fact we have an IGB is a bit of a luxury, but it's there, and I'd love it if the bugs were addressed at some point. Though, it's not a gamebreaker if they're not addressed soon, so I'm ok with it taking longer, while they work on the game proper. |
Dale Cussler
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.10.31 17:17:00 - [ 5]
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: TheNecromancer
the problem is SPEED..IGB is just to slow...
or at least I think it is...
You're not alone. :) It's very slow. WDA just recently made the jump to be both IGB compatible while working with external browsers. Going to a site with a lot of comments (large number of table rows) can have it loading for many seconds.
Granted, the fact we have an IGB is a bit of a luxury, but it's there, and I'd love it if the bugs were addressed at some point. Though, it's not a gamebreaker if they're not addressed soon, so I'm ok with it taking longer, while they work on the game proper.
It's doable though, as long as you avoid either tables altogether (I tried that, and nested divs are a nightmare), or you limit the number of rows. I've got it set up now that a page consists of only a single table, with at most 25 rows. This keeps render times down quite nicely, but it's still a kludge. Unfortunately only 1 person so far has checked out the forum :( C'mon people, where's your sense of beta-testing?! :D |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.10.31 17:25:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: Dale Cussler
It's doable though, as long as you avoid either tables altogether (I tried that, and nested divs are a nightmare), or you limit the number of rows. I've got it set up now that a page consists of only a single table, with at most 25 rows. This keeps render times down quite nicely, but it's still a kludge.
Unfortunately only 1 person so far has checked out the forum :( C'mon people, where's your sense of beta-testing?! :D
Oh yeah, I know it's do-able.... you also have to watch your stylesheets, don't do anything too insane. I'd test it, but I work for a living. :) Will be home eventually though. |
AdamC
Caldari
Cillit Bang Industries
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Posted - 2005.10.31 18:52:00 - [ 7]
Pretty decent speed I thought  |
Stobor Rellik |
Posted - 2005.11.01 22:50:00 - [ 8]
Quote:
The only question is: How much CSS support does the IGB have? Complete? Partial?
from the experiments I performed last night, the answer is.... None whatsoever. sad.  |
Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance |
Posted - 2005.11.01 23:42:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: Dale Cussler
Okay, not sure whether this is the proper forum to post this, but for the longest time I've heard people talk that there are no in-game browser compatible forums around.
We had igb-compatible forums over two years ago, when Teen was in our corp ... wonder what happened to them. |
Jack Tau
Caldari
Coalition of Nations
Coalition Of Nations. |
Posted - 2005.11.02 00:31:00 - [ 10]
I've got my site working in-game(http://eve.enkidu.cx). Well, I lie :P The site in test is looking like a frontpage site, but it flies along on the IGB.. It even seems faster than my regular web-browser sometimes. I would be more than happy to offer any advice I can, and once the new site is done(I'm aiming for no later than this weekend), you will be able to see my html and css.
I'll post in this thread again when it is live. |
Dale Cussler
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.11.02 14:19:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Stobor Rellik
Quote:
The only question is: How much CSS support does the IGB have? Complete? Partial?
from the experiments I performed last night, the answer is.... None whatsoever.
sad.
It does have CSS support, but very limited, and you need to be damn sure it's in a format the parser can understand. I found that stuff like: .class { bla: 234; blark: 234234; } Will work. |
Lufio II
Amarr
Marangrio Space Services Inc.
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Posted - 2005.11.02 15:02:00 - [ 12]
Well, I am thinking about creating IGB-Compatible boards as well, but nothing usable beside some static test with tables and whatnot is coming out of it (I'm a database designer, no PHP or HTML-Coder, I sort of need to learn the two latter ones first). However, my corp homepage www.marangrio.de has got some experiments going according to IGB features (it redirects to our board outgame). Work is ongoing, but slowly due to work stuff... |
Coconut Joe
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2005.11.02 15:50:00 - [ 13]
Give me 20mill ISK and I'll give you a servlet that converts your forum into IGB compatable.
e.g.
http://coconutjoe.ath.cx/servlet/eveForums |
Kingpenn |
Posted - 2005.11.02 16:29:00 - [ 14]
would rather see CCP do the ingame browser forum so we can read them ingame. |
Spathi
Diabolus Ex Machina
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Posted - 2005.11.02 16:37:00 - [ 15]
Edited by: Spathi on 02/11/2005 16:48:14I made a script which lets you read these forums (no posting though) through the IGB a month or two ago although no one seemed to notice the post about it. http://www.eve-igb.comAs always, the IGB doesnt like many tables like the forums use so it can be slow loading sometimes. I offered my services to CCP to make these forums work in the IGB so its up to T20 and Kieron if they want it to happen. I can easily make any forums work with the script too. Regular browsers get bounced to these forums since there is not really much point for non IGB users to read the forums through the site. |
Janux |
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:06:00 - [ 16]
yes.. lets petition this to the devs to make a text-version of these forums to be compatible in the in-game browser. It will definitely help eliminate boring time while doing long jumps or mining. |
Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance |
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:33:00 - [ 17]
Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 02/11/2005 18:33:26Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 02/11/2005 18:33:07 Originally by: Janux
yes.. lets petition this to the devs to make a text-version of these forums to be compatible in the in-game browser. It will definitely help eliminate boring time while doing long jumps or mining.
Teen had that working too. I don't know if she even still plays now .. but she was hella useful in the webpage department. (edit): ..and a major hottie.  |
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