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Jim Steele
Dead By Dawn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 00:50:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Jim Steele on 03/07/2005 08:50:17You cant use them in empire and in order to fuel them you need racial ice, so this means you ideally have to use the same race ships as there is ice. To me this seems kind of daft, i mean we wont see any mixed fleets in a particular region it will basically be, Gimped. Also if you want to go kill your enemy say the Galante  for example you will need to stock up on ice, ok logistically this could be a problem and i know dreads arnt meant to be easy, but i live in detorid, so amarr space is 60+ jumps away, making my amarr bs5 being worthless unless i want to haul ice for a living. Ok getting to the point is they anyway we could convert other races ice into our own ice using some kind of replication device (not 100% efficiency), im new to the whole ice mining thing but i think this way we wouldnt be forced to train for ships we dont want to fly. |
Captin Biltmore
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2005.07.03 00:55:00 - [ 2]
I see this being a problem for Caldari the most. Citadel torps and ice in the cargo hold. Perhaps they will have a fuel hold seperate from the cargo hold, simular to the drone bay. |
Andarias |
Posted - 2005.07.03 01:22:00 - [ 3]
So, is it confirmed that dreadnoughts will need ice in it's unrefined form to jump? |
Tobias Raddick
Caldari
Raddick Explorations
Intrepid Crossing |
Posted - 2005.07.03 07:48:00 - [ 4]
I believe TomB's blog states that you'll need the refined form of whatever racial ice suits your DN. |
Jim Steele
Dead By Dawn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 08:48:00 - [ 5]
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Vishnej
Demonic Retribution
Pure. |
Posted - 2005.07.03 08:58:00 - [ 6]
It makes it more of a siege weapon, with an actual supply line required for operation. |
Hellraiza666
Viziam
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Posted - 2005.07.03 09:45:00 - [ 7]
there is ice belts in 0.0.......... |
DEVILSENIGMA
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.03 09:47:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: DEVILSENIGMA on 03/07/2005 09:47:44 Originally by: Jim Steele
Im not sure if "isotopes" means refined or unrefined ice since i have never mined the stuff. It basically gimps you in 0.0, since getting ice out there is a problem, and it gimps you in empire because you cant use them in >0.5 systems.
You can mine ice in 0.0 as well not that hard. But you need the right system to offer the type of ice. Also its the isotpoes that will be needed and not the ice. Refining ice gives u isotopes which is what you will need. Amarr - Helium Caldari - Nitrogen Gallente - Oxygen Minmatar - Hydrogen Edits: spelling and grammer |
Jim Steele
Dead By Dawn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:10:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: HeLlRaIzA666
there is ice belts in 0.0..........
yeah but its regional which is my point! |
BlueSmok
Minmatar
GalacTECH Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy |
Posted - 2005.07.03 10:17:00 - [ 10]
Uh if your group has a dread it should have a frieghter as well, just make a trip to the desired region, buy enough isotopes to fill up the cargo hold and bring them back... if you run out within a year lemme know.. |
FireFoxx80
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2005.07.03 10:20:00 - [ 11]
I think the devs stated that things like dreads would be seriously pre-nerfed on release.
Besides, these are meant to be very big and very powerful ships. You don't want every 3month old player going around in them. |
Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.03 10:32:00 - [ 12]
Considering the size of the cargoholds of these Dreads (10k), maybe it'll be a little less of a problem. Besides if you intend to do a large scale siege op, you'll need atleast one indy with you.
Oh, and Amarr using helium.... that must be a joke^^ |
slip66
Resilience.
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2005.07.03 12:43:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Jim Steele
Originally by: HeLlRaIzA666
there is ice belts in 0.0..........
yeah but its regional which is my point!
O well, if you cant learn how to adapt and maintain the logistics for it then you prolly should not be flying one. Thats not a jab at you btw. I'm just trying to say its not going to be a ship for you and two interceptors to go around a blow stuff up in. Buy a frighter in empire, bulk order your race ice. Drop off in your area of operations. Use bloackade runner to resupply. |
Maxine Stirner
Gallente
Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.03 12:55:00 - [ 14]
Dread construction and maintenance will be a corp project, so I imagine stockpiling a little isotope material ought to be a fairly facile concern.
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Maya Rkell
Third Grade Ergonomics
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Posted - 2005.07.03 13:11:00 - [ 15]
More business for the ice mining contract corps in empire I guess :) |
Andarias |
Posted - 2005.07.03 13:37:00 - [ 16]
This is a joke. Isotopes are all 0.15m3. Most dreads have cargo bays aproaching or surpassing indys. Where's the problem? |
bfm
Amarr
Koshaku
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Posted - 2005.07.03 14:04:00 - [ 17]
There excist such things as transport corporations  *end of add* |
Buraken v2
Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2005.07.03 16:33:00 - [ 18]
this whole topic was made just so he could say he has BS5, i swear by god  |
Jim Steele
Dead By Dawn
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Posted - 2005.07.03 19:44:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Buraken v2
this whole topic was made just so he could say he has BS5, i swear by god
lol, nah, but looking at the new map its not going to be that difficult to get ice in, since 0.0 areas are like swiss cheese. Very ill thought out but hey, ill have to work with it. |
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