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Pou Tau |
Posted - 2011.07.12 13:35:00 - [ 1]
So about 3 weeks into Eve I joined a low sec / 0.0 corp that took me in and trained me.
After that I pretty much rarely went into high sec, I thought of it as more or less a bazaar / starting area.
Now a year later, in order to pick up some rarer skill books / blue prints, I had to travel across almost all of high sec.
I was very shocked at the amount of people I saw, every other system at 40-80 folks hanging out in it.
Why don't you guys join a 0.0, sov or npc space, or a low sec alliance, the game is much more fun out there.
You can also make a lot more money. |
Furb Killer
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.07.12 13:35:00 - [ 2]
You dont make more ISK, and eve is a sandbox, people can choose themselves what they like to do. |
Gerald Taric |
Posted - 2011.07.12 13:51:00 - [ 3]
 Originally by: Pou Tau
Why don't you guys join a 0.0, sov or npc space, or a low sec alliance, the game is much more fun out there.
Well, i suppose many new players prever the relative security of the CONCORD watched space? And think about the rule "do not fly what you cannot afford" - or, slightly changed, "don't fly, what you can't easily replace". Therefore it might be likely, that at least new players are trying to get some kind of "ISK cushion" before considering to enter null-sec-space. Being permanently podded due to "less powerfull ships" is not fun in the long term, you know ;) And not everyone is keen on PvP. Some simply want to trade ... for example. |
Kerrisone |
Posted - 2011.07.12 13:52:00 - [ 4]
Some reasons:
not wanting to spend time scanning for hostiles, dealing with hostiles, bubbles, camps, etc.
not wanting to serve my overlord alliance/corp masters
not wanting to be tied/stuck to my corp/alliance with my stuff held at their location up for grabs should i take a break, war break out etc
not wanting deal with blobbing hot drop lagged out battles
not wanting to be dependent on others to play 'my game' the way I want how I want when I want
not wanting to waste what little or precious time I have to play doing things that aren't fun or I don't want to do (casual gamer)
Just some reasons someone might not want to go out to 00/low.
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Gah'q
Caldari |
Posted - 2011.07.12 13:53:00 - [ 5]
Not everybody is butt-buddies with a 0.0 alliance. And by "not everybody" I mean "the majority". |
Haruka Ovaert |
Posted - 2011.07.12 14:10:00 - [ 6]
Everyone will have there own reasons.
Me for example is that the corp im currently in is rather quiet and will be like that for a while, but am gonna wait to go together into 0.0 / WH space cause i like it in the corp.
Besides the people that stay in highsec also have a major effect on what happens in 0.0 and low-sec. You went there for some "rarer skill books / blue prints" after all ;) |
Uuali |
Posted - 2011.07.12 14:35:00 - [ 7]
Did null sec. Boring. Too many egos. Too many people I don't want to hang around. Too long to get going with other people to really accomplish anything. Nothing but holding sov. now anyway.
If you are in null sec that is NPC owned then what's the point of being in null?
Me likey convenience and an already established socioeconomic basis that allows free trade and movement instead of one big lockdown to keep everyone else out. CVA in Prov. was nice while it lasted.
RL > game world. I just piddle with this game now anyway. |
Miss Rabblt |
Posted - 2011.07.12 14:53:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: Miss Rabblt on 12/07/2011 14:56:14Edited by: Miss Rabblt on 12/07/2011 14:54:54 Originally by: Pou Tau
So about 3 weeks into Eve I joined a low sec / 0.0 corp that took me in and trained me.
this is first (and main) mistake new person can do in Eve. Personally i would not take into corp people without 6 months of empire history. Originally by: Pou Tau
I was very shocked at the amount of people I saw, every other system at 40-80 folks hanging out in it.
Why don't you guys join a 0.0, sov or npc space, or a low sec alliance, the game is much more fun out there.
You can also make a lot more money.
bold part is only right part here. High-sec is a place where people live. I say "people live". In 0.0 sov you either grind ISKies or "pvp". You don't know many aspects of Eve without living in empire. I see a lot of people starts Eve this way last time. And it makes me sad. Because it makes Eve population too noobish. You know: 0.0 sov isn't "big risk" as people say. Mining in empyre is a lot harder, more danger. Missioning gives different tacktics and enemies than you have from rats in 0.0 sov. Neutrals aren't enemies all-the-time. You even can find friends here (i have very good experience with gathering people into fleets to help each other run lvl4s). Wardecs can give more pvp than you usually have in 0.0. Exploration, EPIC-missions, COSMOS.... A lot of things you haven't in 0.0. |
SC0T1SH WARRIOR |
Posted - 2011.07.12 14:54:00 - [ 9]
I would... but no idea where to start, how to make money (besides ratting) and what would i do.
i refuse to be a renter or a *****. i'd rather have a place where i can do what i want, without being forced to mine for days or be cannonfodder for some alliance who make all the ISK while i cant even replace a ship.
tl;dr - never been in a real null community, occasional roams and all i see is emptiness, AFK cloaks, russians and bubbles. thats the extent of my knowledge |
Eliza Capri |
Posted - 2011.07.12 15:16:00 - [ 10]
Edited by: Eliza Capri on 12/07/2011 15:17:07
Edited by: Eliza Capri on 12/07/2011 15:16:47
Wormholes and to a lesser extent low-sec, are far more fun than nullsec. |
dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge |
Posted - 2011.07.12 15:19:00 - [ 11]
to be in blob lag fleets no thx low sec is more fun ( for me ) |
cytheras wrath |
Posted - 2011.07.12 15:36:00 - [ 12]
Edited by: cytheras wrath on 12/07/2011 15:37:36
i do what i want, if i wanna go to null-sec, ill go there and bring my covert bomber, find gate camps, and bomb them and run. why? because its fun.
i prefer highsec over low and null because people in low and null have no life, and will camp a single station for 2 hours waiting for me to undock, while im watching house irl.
tbh null sec is actually more boring to live in then high and low sec, simply because its harder to make A LOT of isk then high sec. yeah, i can go to a nullsec alliance, do some ratting, lose a ship or a few, pay expencive prices for a replacement ship at a alliance trade hub, and make alot of isk, but i much rather be in highsec, lose less ships, and make a lot of isk the hard way.
so, for my reasons:
1) challenge to make a lot of isk
2) more friendly people
3) war decs cost money for pvp, and lasts a week or so
4) no CTA's to defend a pos from a blob of capital ships without actually owning a capital ship
5) dont have to deal with hot drops
6) i can laugh at fail pirates
7) i like watching people getting concorded
8) i like to hug carebears, cuz they are soft and cuddly
9) a random 9th reason so i can have a 10th reason
10) i dont have to worry about coming back after 2-3 month vacation from the game, and sov changed and im stuck at a red station, or even worse, kicked into a newbie corp and surounded by unfriendly people.
so those are my 10 reasons.
if i wanted to play eve on easy mode, i would go out to null-sec :)
edit: mind fart and mixed stuff around |
Abrazzar |
Posted - 2011.07.12 15:37:00 - [ 13]
I stay out of 0.0 because I don't like getting bullied around and generally exposed to hyper-inflated egos. Lowsec is dead. NPC 0.0 is the same as normal 0.0, only with NPC stations and worse ISK earnings. Wormspace, yeah, maybe, but it tends to get lonely and boring after a while. |
Ditra Vorthran |
Posted - 2011.07.12 15:49:00 - [ 14]
As much as 0.0 space is profitable, if I wanted to go into a stressful, piranha infested, gank-fest shark pool (and yes, the sharks and piranha do have frikin' lasers on their friken' heads [they must be Amarr fish]), I'd go to work.
0.0 = very stressful but very profitable
Low-sec = pointless
High-sec = relaxing but somewhat profitable |
laysha
Amarr
GONE RETARD BACK LATER
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Posted - 2011.07.12 16:04:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Ditra Vorthran
As much as 0.0 space is profitable, if I wanted to go into a stressful, piranha infested, gank-fest shark pool (and yes, the sharks and piranha do have frikin' lasers on their friken' heads [they must be Amarr fish]), I'd go to work.
0.0 = very stressful but very profitable
Low-sec = pointless
High-sec = relaxing but somewhat profitable
I've made far more isk in low-sec then i ever did in high-sec or 0.0. While it might not be the best way to make isk it's certainly up there with the added bonus that i can do it on my own when ever i feel like it and not have to rely on others. This character supports 2 accounts with the money i get from doing low-sec stuff and i use it at most only about 10 hours a week |
Fordosan Banzai |
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:11:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: SC0T1SH WARRIOR
tl;dr - never been in a real null community, occasional roams and all i see is emptiness, AFK cloaks, russians and bubbles. thats the extent of my knowledge
Haha, so true, hella russians in nullsec. |
Khira Kitamatsu |
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:12:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Pou Tau
Why don't you guys join a 0.0, sov or npc space, or a low sec alliance, the game is much more fun out there.
You can also make a lot more money.
Go back to blobs, super-caps, alliance bickering, lack of options, super-sized Internet egos, jerks and just plain arse-holes oh and did I mention super-caps. Nah...did that, been there, no thanks. |
Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn |
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:14:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Pou Tau
So about 3 weeks into Eve I joined a low sec / 0.0 corp that took me in and trained me.
After that I pretty much rarely went into high sec, I thought of it as more or less a bazaar / starting area.
Now a year later, in order to pick up some rarer skill books / blue prints, I had to travel across almost all of high sec.
I was very shocked at the amount of people I saw, every other system at 40-80 folks hanging out in it.
Why don't you guys join a 0.0, sov or npc space, or a low sec alliance, the game is much more fun out there.
You can also make a lot more money.
cos 0.0 since anomoly nerf is crap for making money. alot of risk for feck all reward anymore. even mining dark glitter in 0.0 is more profitable than doing anoms most of the time now. |
Maduin Ardens
Eve Innovations
Eternal Evocations |
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:22:00 - [ 19]
Empire has its advantages, and I certainly enjoy relaxing there, but it comes with stipulations.
Let's forget about blobs, and politics, and money for a second and think about the main mechanical difference.
In Empire any boob with more money than sense can declare war on my corporation or alliance and chase shuttles and rookie ships around for twelve months if he likes. Not only that, but there are even more rules, like my buddies in other corps and alliance have to pay just to participate, and there are no bubbles, no bombs, no capitals, no cynos, no smartbombs, etc.
In null any boob with more money than sense is welcome to come out to where I live any time day or night, and see how far he gets for twelve months if he likes. Not only that, but I can and will wage war with him in any way the game allows, for as long as he desires, until one of us packs up and goes home.
Now, do you want to live by someone else's rules like in Empire, or your own?
Forget politics and CTAs and money, people in null fight for GFs and for the ability to police themselves, and NOT get policed by artificial rules like you find in Empire.
This is still true, regardless of all the shortcomings that have been introduced into 0.0 within the past few years, all this still holds true.
So, null if you want to live on your own terms (in theory), Empire if you want to be at the whim of any boob with money burning a hole in his pocket.
Your choice though, which is key. |
KamikazeBrAzIl
Vera Cruz Alliance |
Posted - 2011.07.12 16:27:00 - [ 20]
I like teh faction drops in the complexes lol |
Shadowed Broker |
Posted - 2011.07.12 17:11:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Miss Rabblt
Edited by: Miss Rabblt on 12/07/2011 14:56:14
Edited by: Miss Rabblt on 12/07/2011 14:54:54
Originally by: Pou Tau
So about 3 weeks into Eve I joined a low sec / 0.0 corp that took me in and trained me.
this is first (and main) mistake new person can do in Eve. Personally i would not take into corp people without 6 months of empire history.
This ^^^ right here is a major attitude problem of players. Assuming you can be reasonably assured they are not spies, 2 mil skill point pilots are fine for 0.0. The problem is 2 mil skill point pilots in drakes. Most roams / fleets love fast tackles / scouts, and it doesn't take long to get into interceptors, then coverts or sabers. |
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