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tikktokk tokkzikk
Switchblade Incorporated
Posted - 2011.07.10 12:02:00 - [1]
 


  1. CCP promise no MT.

  2. CCP deploy Incarna w/ vanity MT.

  3. People rage about MT.

  4. CCP "accidently" leak hints about p2w MT.

  5. people rage about p2w MT.

  6. CCP promise no p2w MT.

  7. People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.

  8. CCP WINS!



This went just the way CCP planed and you fell for it. I actually did expect more from you. And also, why do you trust CCP when they say no p2w? They lied when they said no MT so what stops them from lying again?

I do not mind if CCP had (vanity only) MT if they used the money on EVE and not vampire online...
But whole Incarna is about MT besides probe fix, turrets and some other bugfix... Yes, walking in station is there only to get you to buy items for you character! Thats also why they wont have the old hangar optional as they want to force you to look at your character.

disccuse what we could have done to prevent this.

PS. Crowd Control Productions is actually a very fitting name Laughing

Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
Posted - 2011.07.10 12:04:00 - [2]
 

I agree, we should all rage and scream like little *****es until 0.0 / lowsec is fixed!

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.10 12:06:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk

  • CCP promise no p2w MT.

  • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.



  • No, that's just you. P2W items was the big thing. If people want to buy an expensive monocle, they can knock themselves out doing so: who cares?

    Jasdemi
    Interstellar Whine Brewery
    Monocle Overlords
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:06:00 - [4]
     

    Just buy monocles and be happy. O' wai ... you're poor and can't afford it.

    Darkside007
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:08:00 - [5]
     

    Edited by: Darkside007 on 10/07/2011 12:07:57
    CCP has promised WiS for years now, and Incarna is attempting to deliver. I don't have an issue with that.

    Vanity purchases (these are not micro-transactions) are irksome simply because it gives EvE a Farmville flavor. With no way to earn those items in-game, it gives players a benefit that can only be purchased.

    Annoying, but livable.

    Gold ammo gives an actual game advantage to players willing to, in essence, bribe CCP for special items. That completely rewrites the game. (CCP - $50 for Hulk BPO?)

    Unacceptable.

    tikktokk tokkzikk
    Switchblade Incorporated
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:16:00 - [6]
     

    We should not scream here at the EVE forum.
    Rather go scream to the world!
    CCP don't care about us but they will care about their reputation!
    So if everyone badmouth CCP untill they stop this madness they will:
    1. Remove MT and everyone lives happily ever after(maybe not CCP).
    2. Continue MT but no one will play their games so everyone is a sad panda.
    3. Do as I suggest in my sign and everyone is happy!
    ^Advertisment ftw^

    Tosser Galore
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:20:00 - [7]
     


    tikktokk tokkzikk
    Switchblade Incorporated
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:27:00 - [8]
     

    Originally by: Darkside007
    Edited by: Darkside007 on 10/07/2011 12:07:57
    ...
    Annoying, but livable.
    ...


    Before CCP "accidentally" leaked hints about p2w MT people raged because Annoying = not ok!

    Herping yourDerp
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:29:00 - [9]
     

    no people laughed... $70 monocle? lol wtf.... the worst part was CQ before they decided that P2W would be pretty cool.
    its ok though, people are still fed up with ccp and leaving because of the lack of internets space ships

    Aelius
    Caldari
    Mnemonic Enterprises
    Dark Matter Coalition
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:30:00 - [10]
     

    Originally by: Ranka Mei
    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk

  • CCP promise no p2w MT.

  • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.



  • No, that's just you. P2W items was the big thing. If people want to buy an expensive monocle, they can knock themselves out doing so: who cares?

    +1

    Khamelean
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:31:00 - [11]
     

    Originally by: Darkside007
    With no way to earn those items in-game, it gives players a benefit that can only be purchased.


    Grind ISK, buy pex with ISK, convert to aurum, or grind isk and buy them of the player market.

    To OP.

    It's not a zero sum game. If we CCP wins, we win, if we win, CCP wins.

    Valari Nala Zena
    Caldari
    Perkone
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:39:00 - [12]
     

    OP, people don't scream anymore because it doesn't make a difference.

    CCP still wins though, no doubt about that.

    tikktokk tokkzikk
    Switchblade Incorporated
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:40:00 - [13]
     

    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: Darkside007
    With no way to earn those items in-game, it gives players a benefit that can only be purchased.


    Grind ISK, buy pex with ISK, convert to aurum, or grind isk and buy them of the player market.

    To OP.

    It's not a zero sum game. If we CCP wins, we win, if we win, CCP wins.


    If CCP used the money on EVE, yes we all win. Sadly CCP use it on vampire online and DUST

    Khamelean
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:42:00 - [14]
     

    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk


    If CCP used the money on EVE, yes we all win. Sadly CCP use it on vampire online and DUST


    Do you have access to leaked financial planing documents? Because I can't see how you have any basis for that at all.

    tikktokk tokkzikk
    Switchblade Incorporated
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:45:00 - [15]
     

    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk


    If CCP used the money on EVE, yes we all win. Sadly CCP use it on vampire online and DUST


    Do you have access to leaked financial planing documents? Because I can't see how you have any basis for that at all.



    They use the money to pay devs and I heard (forgot where) that almost all the devs work on vampire online and dust

    I also heard they got a loan they need to pay.

    Valari Nala Zena
    Caldari
    Perkone
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:47:00 - [16]
     

    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk


    If CCP used the money on EVE, yes we all win. Sadly CCP use it on vampire online and DUST


    Do you have access to leaked financial planing documents? Because I can't see how you have any basis for that at all.


    I'm not sure how else CCP would fund projects like that, there only income is from EVE Online is it not?

    Khamelean
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:49:00 - [17]
     

    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk
    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk


    If CCP used the money on EVE, yes we all win. Sadly CCP use it on vampire online and DUST


    Do you have access to leaked financial planing documents? Because I can't see how you have any basis for that at all.



    They use the money to pay devs and I heard (forgot where) that almost all the devs work on vampire online and dust

    I also heard they got a loan they need to pay.



    Well as long as your sources are reliable. Feel free to continue to make **** up.

    tikktokk tokkzikk
    Switchblade Incorporated
    Posted - 2011.07.10 12:52:00 - [18]
     

    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk
    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk


    If CCP used the money on EVE, yes we all win. Sadly CCP use it on vampire online and DUST


    Do you have access to leaked financial planing documents? Because I can't see how you have any basis for that at all.



    They use the money to pay devs and I heard (forgot where) that almost all the devs work on vampire online and dust

    I also heard they got a loan they need to pay.



    Well as long as your sources are reliable. Feel free to continue to make **** up.


    They dont leak anything they dont want leaked...

    There is no way to be sure but something are more likely than other.

    Khamelean
    Posted - 2011.07.10 13:01:00 - [19]
     

    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk

    There is no way to be sure but something are more likely than other.


    So which of the following is more likely then:

    A) CCP is diversifying it's income, continuing to develop it's primary asset (eve online) while at the same time developing additional products.

    or

    B) CCP spent over a decade pouring blood sweat and tears into eve online, then decided, **** it, lets make vampires instead.

    T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
    Posted - 2011.07.10 13:22:00 - [20]
     

    You missed quite alot...

    • CCP promise no MT.
    • Players catch onto plans for MT
    • Players are warned about MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings
    • CSM 5 Goes to Iceland
    • Players are warned again about plans for MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings


    fastforward 6months....

    • CCP have developed MT backbone
    • CCP promise no MT.
    • CCP deploy Incarna w/ vanity MT.
    • People rage about MT a little too late
    • CCP "accidently" leak hints about p2w MT.
    • people rage about p2w MT.
    • CSM6 goes to Iceland
    • CCP promise no p2w MT.
    • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.
    • CCP WINS!




    Wreckar
    Posted - 2011.07.10 13:44:00 - [21]
     

    Ok. All you guys protesting all MT start heading over to Jita monument. You guys over there protesting no P2W MT head on over to Amarr. Those who are protesting CQ and not MT go to Rens. People protesting CQ and MT fly over to Dodixie. The rest of you who hate everything proceed to the forums.

    CCP Question

    Marara Kovacs
    Posted - 2011.07.10 13:49:00 - [22]
     

    OP, please stop playing.

    Khamelean
    Posted - 2011.07.10 13:59:00 - [23]
     

    Originally by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
    You missed quite alot...

    • CCP promise no MT.
    • Players catch onto plans for MT
    • Players are warned about MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings
    • CSM 5 Goes to Iceland
    • Players are warned again about plans for MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings


    fastforward 6months....

    • CCP have developed MT backbone
    • CCP promise no MT.
    • CCP deploy Incarna w/ vanity MT.
    • People rage about MT a little too late
    • CCP "accidently" leak hints about p2w MT.
    • people rage about p2w MT.
    • CSM6 goes to Iceland
    • CCP promise no p2w MT.
    • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.
    • CCP WINS!






    CCP never promised no MT.

    Spurty
    Caldari
    V0LTA
    VOLTA Corp
    Posted - 2011.07.10 14:09:00 - [24]
     

    Originally by: Khamelean


    CCP never promised no MT.


    You're not very good at this folklore into fact trickery sir ;-)

    *SNORK*

    Wreckar
    Posted - 2011.07.10 14:11:00 - [25]
     

    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
    You missed quite alot...

    • CCP promise no MT.
    • Players catch onto plans for MT
    • Players are warned about MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings
    • CSM 5 Goes to Iceland
    • Players are warned again about plans for MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings


    fastforward 6months....

    • CCP have developed MT backbone
    • CCP promise no MT.
    • CCP deploy Incarna w/ vanity MT.
    • People rage about MT a little too late
    • CCP "accidently" leak hints about p2w MT.
    • people rage about p2w MT.
    • CSM6 goes to Iceland
    • CCP promise no p2w MT.
    • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.
    • CCP WINS!






    CCP never promised no MT.


    Yep. Just stated they have no plans for MT about a year ago, and no plans for P2W during the remap debacle. Basically they just called a CSM meeting and everything to reiterate what they've already said for those with comprehension difficulties.

    They'd never commit to saying no P2W or no MT, no company would limit their future decisions that way. Or would you rather they just outright lied to you. Who's to say how the MMO sub model will change in 2/5/10 years.

    Joe Skellington
    Minmatar
    Matari Legion Holding
    Matari Legion
    Posted - 2011.07.10 14:15:00 - [26]
     

    Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk
    Thats also why they wont have the old hangar optional as they want to force you to look at your character.


    I don't have station environment checked so I don't see my char, just a door.

    Xercodo
    Amarr
    Xovoni Directorate
    Posted - 2011.07.10 15:19:00 - [27]
     

    Originally by: Wreckar
    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
    You missed quite alot...

    • CCP promise no MT.
    • Players catch onto plans for MT
    • Players are warned about MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings
    • CSM 5 Goes to Iceland
    • Players are warned again about plans for MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings


    fastforward 6months....

    • CCP have developed MT backbone
    • CCP promise no MT.
    • CCP deploy Incarna w/ vanity MT.
    • People rage about MT a little too late
    • CCP "accidently" leak hints about p2w MT.
    • people rage about p2w MT.
    • CSM6 goes to Iceland
    • CCP promise no p2w MT.
    • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.
    • CCP WINS!






    CCP never promised no MT.


    Yep. Just stated they have no plans for MT about a year ago, and no plans for P2W during the remap debacle. Basically they just called a CSM meeting and everything to reiterate what they've already said for those with comprehension difficulties.

    They'd never commit to saying no P2W or no MT, no company would limit their future decisions that way. Or would you rather they just outright lied to you. Who's to say how the MMO sub model will change in 2/5/10 years.


    this

    T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
    Posted - 2011.07.10 15:42:00 - [28]
     

    Edited by: T''amber Anomandari Demaleon on 10/07/2011 15:46:14
    Originally by: Khamelean
    Originally by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
    You missed quite alot...

    • CCP promise no MT.
    • Players catch onto plans for MT
    • Players are warned about MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings
    • CSM 5 Goes to Iceland
    • Players are warned again about plans for MT and the majority of the playerbase ignore the warnings


    fastforward 6months....

    • CCP have developed MT backbone
    • CCP promise no MT.
    • CCP deploy Incarna w/ vanity MT.
    • People rage about MT a little too late
    • CCP "accidently" leak hints about p2w MT.
    • people rage about p2w MT.
    • CSM6 goes to Iceland
    • CCP promise no p2w MT.
    • People are so happy, they forget they are angry about vanity MT too.
    • CCP WINS!






    CCP never promised no MT.


    erm.. this issue has been around for a while now...

    Quote:
    Just for clarification, the skillpoints CCP will be giving pilots to make up for the extended downtime in this case is not tied to microtransactions.

    Editing to add this: We do not have plans to go microtransaction with EVE.


    Quote:
    No. There are no microtransaction plans, whatsoever. I wrote "in this case" because this extended downtime was an unusual situation. It's not every day we relocate our servers to a new facility.

    Quote:
    Are you trolling me bro? Cool
    Our business model isn't changing, you all have nothing to be concerned about.

    Quote:
    Yeah, we are looking at introducing virtual goods within the game, but we feel those things should be vanity items rather than those that give you a clear benefit over other players in-game.
    That said, we are introducing a feature this expansion [Incursion], that does allow you to re-map your attributes using Pilot Licence Extensions, which are bought both in-game and on our website. PLEX represents 30-days subscription within the game.
    We will evolve just like everyone else. We will certainly not become a dinosaur. That has not been our style.


    These are from last year, in order of them being posted.

    Then there was mild rage (although nothing compared to what just happened) and they decided not to do remaps for plex, then CSM5 had meeting in Iceland and the whole debarcle went code red and they promised "Vanity Only" Mts only. Its a pitty there wasn't as much noise BEFORE they introduced the mechanics ingame, the outcome may have been a little different.

    I would know, I sold all my characters, quit the csm and gave up free trips to iceland in the hope that people take not of how serious the problem was. Saying that, I did make a new character once this all blew up again, its been midly entertaining! :P

    Eve is a great source of entertainment and even without the game its great fun! :P




    Uearel Atram
    Posted - 2011.07.10 15:49:00 - [29]
     

    CCP did not "promise no MT". They said they had no plans for it. They later on, however, developed plans for it.

    OT Smithers
    Posted - 2011.07.10 16:09:00 - [30]
     

    Last night the police showed up at my house again, sticking pictures in my face and asking their stupid questions. Even though I was irritated at having my work interrupted I pretended to study the pictures and answered the way I always do: "No, I have not seen her... is that the girl from the tv? Yes officer, there have been an unusual number of these case lately. No, sorry, we can talk here on the porch..."

    I could tell they were mad, really mad, and that made me smile.

    After reading the OP in this thread I am smiling again.







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