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ThirdEyeBlenny |
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:11:00 - [ 31]
Ooh look, yet another post from another buthurt little dork. Change the record man! This type of stuff is soooooooo last week!
Move along, theres nothing new or interesting to see here.
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Gareth Angel
Gallente
Eve Space Exploration Guild |
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:29:00 - [ 32]
 Originally by: Tammarr
Originally by: Majestic Twilight
I'm kinda torn if I'm gonna roll a Tremere or Gangel vampire 1st. Sorry OP but they are making WOD and a lot of people will be playing it whether you like WOD/CCP or not.
tremere all the way, clan gangrel is nothing but furries that burn to crisp quite nicely.
Please repeat that phrase while I am scratching your brain with my nails through your eyeballs, sir...  I'd go for Malkavian though, hands down. |
Vanilla Reaver |
Posted - 2011.07.04 13:57:00 - [ 33]
Originally by: Cashcow Golden Goose
Originally by: Vanilla Reaver
As fun as it is to troll 'special' people who think incarna is good, thats besides the point and can be done in any other thread.
This thread was about WHY THEY SHOVED the email under the rug, STAY ON TOPIC TROLLS!
So: Why?
You mean the email they explain away here?
Quote:
The Leaked Hilmar Global Email: We were appalled by the leaked Hilmar email and the atrocious and out-of-touch messaging it contained. We sympathize and agree with those players offended and disgusted by it.
Can you help us out a bit? What were you were hoping they would do about it?
See, it’s this sort of scrubbiness that makes trolls troll. You didn't read the first post did you? Or had you already forgotten it by the time you wrote your reply? I asked why CCP said nothing (didn't apologize) about the leaked email, not the CSM. Please, if you’re trying to prove a point, know what the point is? K thanks. Anyways, I’m not rampaging, i just want to know how this ties into them 'improving' their communication to the community? Let me say this again: IM NOT WHINGING! I want an apology because it offended me, unlike you i take offense at being talked down to: Originally by: Hilmar
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing.
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Prince Kobol |
Posted - 2011.07.04 14:01:00 - [ 34]
Again, why exactly should they apologise? |
Cashcow Golden Goose |
Posted - 2011.07.04 14:02:00 - [ 35]
You're actually serious, you actually think CCP are going to say anything ever again? when they have official spokespersons, the CSM, to put out and then blame the bad news on?
CCP simply spent the last 2 weeks relearning the lesson, have the CSM say it. People voted for the CSM they will believe anything they say.
You're adorable though. So angry and yet such a clear and progressive thinker. |
Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar |
Posted - 2011.07.04 14:25:00 - [ 36]
Hilmar should get back in touch with his product.
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Yarrrrrhh |
Posted - 2011.07.04 14:28:00 - [ 37]
Originally by: Alissa Solette
Edited by: Alissa Solette on 04/07/2011 12:02:44
It's CCPs usual way of dealing with their customers concerns:
1) Replace honest EVE players with marketing and PR bastards that wear 1000$ pants
2) Employ imbeciles that were fired from CITIBANK for sucking even worse then their peers (which is sort of an achievement in itself)
3) Implement massively unpopular changes to the game without consulting the CSM or players
4) Stick fingers in ears and humm loudly for 2 weeks while your customer base quits their accounts and spamms your forums
5) get some overpaid imbecile to send condescending emails and make sure they are leaked to the angry customers ASAP
6) see step 4
7) Get the overpaid PR bastard from step 1 to write a pointless dev blog that contains as few commitments as possible
8) Pretend everything is OK again
Also ensure that nowhere a long the chain you ever apologize to the morons paying your wages. That would be like admitting you made a mistake (and that's simply impossible because of CITIBANK).
qft |
K'uata Sayus |
Posted - 2011.07.04 15:05:00 - [ 38]
Originally by: Alissa Solette
Edited by: Alissa Solette on 04/07/2011 12:02:44
It's CCPs usual way of dealing with their customers concerns:
1) Replace honest EVE players with marketing and PR bastards that wear 1000$ pants
2) Employ imbeciles that were fired from CITIBANK for sucking even worse then their peers (which is sort of an achievement in itself)
3) Implement massively unpopular changes to the game without consulting the CSM or players
4) Stick fingers in ears and humm loudly for 2 weeks while your customer base quits their accounts and spamms your forums
5) get some overpaid imbecile to send condescending emails and make sure they are leaked to the angry customers ASAP
6) see step 4
7) Get the overpaid PR bastard from step 1 to write a pointless dev blog that contains as few commitments as possible
8) Pretend everything is OK again
Also ensure that nowhere a long the chain you ever apologize to the morons paying your wages. That would be like admitting you made a mistake (and that's simply impossible because of CITIBANK).
*sniff* Our innovative, exciting and dedicated entrepreneurial company has gown up to be a callous, indifferent, money-mongering corporate entity. Oh, where did the time go? They grow up so fast! They're already oinking and grunting like their conglomerate big brothers. How cute! *sniff* |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.07.04 15:06:00 - [ 39]
Originally by: Michelear
but they're a great way for a company to make money and keep developing content.
No. That's what the SUBSCRIPTION MODEL is for. Microtransactions are content that is deliberately developed to sell. They're not made to allow continued development to flesh out a game, they're something devs do to get more money and more money alone. |
Michelear
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.07.04 17:36:00 - [ 40]
Edited by: Michelear on 04/07/2011 17:43:11 Originally by: Vanilla Reaver
I agree MT is good, but you are still nub because you say "a company to make money and keep developing content."
First: CCP will keep making money even if they only bug fix, last i checked i was being charged monthly ... as compared to other MT games that are doing well such as HoN (one off $30) and TF2 (recently F2P)
Secondly: Make content people want? Why force feed Incarna? If you did a proper stats poll i would bet you’d find more than 50% of people didn't want it. Ship skins: fine love it, will probably buy some, but boots? no this is a space game about shooting and my boots don't make me look any cooler while doing that.
Control your anger scrub (yeah I’m a HoN player and hence troll a lot)
PS: did i ever mention that i was worried about P2W in eve? No, i don't think they will make eve P2W, all I’m angry about is that they didn't apologise for insulting us (the paying customer). You obviously have no social skills, never insult people you’re trying to keep around and have a good relationship with.
Edit was for the PS part.
Maybe 50% of forum posters lol. But I GUARANTEE the heavy majority of EVE players want Incarna. Learn about your community before you speak for them. As far as being a HON player, I can tell. lol |
Michelear
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.07.04 17:38:00 - [ 41]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Michelear
but they're a great way for a company to make money and keep developing content.
No. That's what the SUBSCRIPTION MODEL is for.
Microtransactions are content that is deliberately developed to sell. They're not made to allow continued development to flesh out a game, they're something devs do to get more money and more money alone.
You OBVIOUSLY haven't played many MT games these days, bud. You're horribly mistaken. |
Michelear
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.07.04 17:41:00 - [ 42]
Edited by: Michelear on 04/07/2011 17:42:51 Originally by: Herring
Edited by: Herring on 04/07/2011 09:12:09
Originally by: Michelear
Originally by: Vanilla Reaver
Originally by: Michelear
I for one am stoaked to play WoD. STFU and speak for yourself, jackass.
Ok, enjoy your P2W game.
Okay, enjoy being a blind, naive jackass. The QQ and superstition about MTs is bull**** altogether. MTs make for a great pricing model.
Angry much? First off, eve has been a subscription game for ALL content since what, 2003? So eight years. Now suddenly change of plan, they plan to charge additional bull**** fees on top of your subscription if you want all the content the game has to offer. So no, mt's + subscriptions on a long term subscription game =/= a good pricing model. You might want to think opposing points of view before you go flaming someone as a blind, naive jackass. Because that's how you yourself are coming off.
Originally by: Michelear
Not only do they allow players to choose how much they spend on a game, but they're a great way for a company to make money and keep developing content.
What you meant to say was, not only do they allow players to choose how much more in addition to their existing subscription fees that they'd like to spend on a pathetically underdeveloped bugfest of a game, but they're a great way to sponge off extra revenue from the suckers still playing.
Originally by: Michelear
Have you seen how many MT games are prospering right now? Get a clue before you open your mouth.
You've seen how many F2P MT games are prospering right now? Get a clue before you open yours. What an idiot.
If you don't want to pay for MTs. Don't pay for MTs. Wow, that was HARD to figure out. Some of us actually have jobs and can afford a few things we want. I'm sorry you can't milk any more from mommy. And WOW at your last statement. Research before you talk much? "What an idiot..." Yes, literally.. You exemplify that statement. |
Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.04 17:55:00 - [ 43]
The email in question says basically these two things.
1: CCP will pay attention to what the overall player base does with the new content.
2: CCP will pay little attention to what the small percentage of forum *****s have to say about the new content.
If you are offended, we know which camp you belong in. |
Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.07.04 18:00:00 - [ 44]
The leaked email was probably referring to player reactions BEFORE fearless got leaked. In which case, Hilmar did nothing wrong - all he did was predict that players would be surprised by expensive prices for monocles and he was saying that such reactions are unimportant so long as players actually buy the monocles.
And in this case, he would be absolutely correct. If people want to spend $60 on a virtual monocle, then so be it. The money they give CCP means that more money gets poured into EVE and CCP doesn't have to increase subscription fees.
The reaction to prices in the NEX was NOT what we had a problem with. The problem we had was with ambiguous communication from CCP. All we wanted to know was if they were expanding to non-vanity items in EVE, as suggested by the Fearless leak.
Now that the "Big yellow question" has been answered, the leaked email means nothing. |
Herring
Caldari
Pimpology
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Posted - 2011.07.04 21:40:00 - [ 45]
Originally by: Michelear
If you don't want to pay for MTs. Don't pay for MTs. Wow, that was HARD to figure out. Some of us actually have jobs and can afford a few things we want. I'm sorry you can't milk any more from mommy.
Not the point and you know it. Eve was a subscription game. You pay an amount, you get access to all content in the game. Now your subscription does not allow you to access all content in the game. Pretty simple. Not worth it. Originally by: Michelear
And WOW at your last statement. Research before you talk much? "What an idiot..." Yes, literally.. You exemplify that statement.
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful? Do some research yourself. Stupid ****er. |
Rhivre
Caldari
TarNec
|
Posted - 2011.07.04 22:10:00 - [ 46]
Originally by: Herring
Not the point and you know it. Eve was a subscription game. You pay an amount, you get access to all content in the game. Now your subscription does not allow you to access all content in the game. Pretty simple. Not worth it.
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful? Do some research yourself. Stupid ****er.
Which current content are you unable to access with your subscription? As you said "now your subscription does not allow you to access all content", then there must be something currently I am unable to buy with ISK. As to your 2nd point, LOTRO & DDO, EQ2 to a degree, WoW. |
Juliette DuBois |
Posted - 2011.07.04 22:32:00 - [ 47]
Edited by: Juliette DuBois on 04/07/2011 22:34:37 Originally by: Rhivre
Originally by: Herring
Not the point and you know it. Eve was a subscription game. You pay an amount, you get access to all content in the game. Now your subscription does not allow you to access all content in the game. Pretty simple. Not worth it.
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful? Do some research yourself. Stupid ****er.
Which current content are you unable to access with your subscription? As you said "now your subscription does not allow you to access all content", then there must be something currently I am unable to buy with ISK.
As to your 2nd point, LOTRO & DDO, EQ2 to a degree, WoW.
Sub does not give you isk automatically to buy PLEX/Aurum, you work for it ingame or scam someone elses work. There is no free lunch even if you delude yourself thinking isk is worthless even though it is tied to PLEX which has RL currency value. CCP is quite clever when they are trying to set up small barriers on the sandbox. Obviously companies will try all possible ways to pull in revenue without upsetting their players, but it is truly bad form to introduce it to sandbox MMO. Worse, they don`t even sell extra tools but products and make it impossible for sandbox even to reach there aka creating a monopoly on these products. |
Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2011.07.04 22:39:00 - [ 48]
Probably because everything a corp does wrong is because of "communication issues".
It doesn't matter what they do. Everything can be blamed on the communication.
At least that's what they are trying to tell us. For some reason they don't seem to know that the players are able to think.
As they said themselves, it's time to ignore what they say and instead see what they do.
I don't like what I see. As far as p2w goes, this game has gone down the drain a loooooong time ago.
Bye. |
Michelear
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.07.04 23:38:00 - [ 49]
Edited by: Michelear on 04/07/2011 23:41:19 Originally by: Herring
Originally by: Michelear
If you don't want to pay for MTs. Don't pay for MTs. Wow, that was HARD to figure out. Some of us actually have jobs and can afford a few things we want. I'm sorry you can't milk any more from mommy.
Not the point and you know it. Eve was a subscription game. You pay an amount, you get access to all content in the game. Now your subscription does not allow you to access all content in the game. Pretty simple. Not worth it.
Originally by: Michelear
And WOW at your last statement. Research before you talk much? "What an idiot..." Yes, literally.. You exemplify that statement.
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful? Do some research yourself. Stupid ****er.
It's exactly the point. They're not selling upgrades or P2W items in EVE, so if you don't want to pay extra, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. What "content" exactly are you missing out on? Obviously my definition of game "content" is much different than yours. Vanity items =/= content. About the successful MT games: League of Legends Team Fortress 2 Lord of the Rings Online Dungeons & Dragons Online Everquest 2 Combat Arms Order & Chaos Heroes of Newerth War of Legends (And the list goes on and on and on..)
Once again, I'll say it. YOU do some research, you blind, idiotic excuse for a member of the EVE community.Oh, and atleast I'm man enough to post on my main. Nice alt you've got there, *****. |
Dorian Wylde |
Posted - 2011.07.04 23:49:00 - [ 50]
Originally by: Vanilla Reaver
No mention from CCP in thier statement, and only a brief statement from CSM.
What up CCP?
Aside from 3 different blogs where they address it specifically, no there has been no word. Fool. |
Michelear
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.07.04 23:51:00 - [ 51]
Originally by: Dorian Wylde
Originally by: Vanilla Reaver
No mention from CCP in thier statement, and only a brief statement from CSM.
What up CCP?
Aside from 3 different blogs where they address it specifically, no there has been no word. Fool.
Isn't it mind-boggling how stupid some people are? Seriously folks, think for yourself. Don't just jump on the rage bandwagon and pretend like you have any inclination of knowing what you're talking about. |
Stan Smith |
Posted - 2011.07.04 23:55:00 - [ 52]
Edited by: Stan Smith on 05/07/2011 00:05:31 Originally by: Michelear
Edited by: Michelear on 04/07/2011 23:41:19
Originally by: Herring
Originally by: Michelear
About the successful MT games:
League of Legends
Team Fortress 2
Lord of the Rings Online
Dungeons & Dragons Online
Everquest 2
Combat Arms
Order & Chaos
Heroes of Newerth
War of Legends
(And the list goes on and on and on..)
Once again, I'll say it. YOU do some research, you blind, idiotic excuse for a member of the EVE community.
Oh, and atleast I'm man enough to post on my main. Nice alt you've got there, *****.
ok, and if you put the insults aside for a bit, could you fully answer the man's question. for the record, this was it:
Quote:
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful?
you listed several successful mt games, now please point out which of those are f2p + mt, and which are subscription-based + mt, and by subscription based, i mean games where you don't get a watered down version of the game that's free to play where extra content is unlocked by a subscription. |
Michelear
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.07.05 00:39:00 - [ 53]
Edited by: Michelear on 05/07/2011 00:40:20 Originally by: Stan Smith
you listed several successful mt games, now please point out which of those are f2p + mt, and which are subscription-based + mt, and by subscription based, i mean games where you don't get a watered down version of the game that's free to play where extra content is unlocked by a subscription.
Do you not understand that in EVE, you aren't going to be losing an "content" without paying for micro-transactions? Vanity items are not "content". The reason I never answered his question, is because the question wasn't valid in the first place. Clothes, ship skins, etc. are not game content. You pay for a sub to get all the "content" in EVE, and you can get vanity extras if you would like by buying items from the NEX store. It's as simple as that. Then you'll have your $15 a month to spend in the NEX store. Furthermore, if you are really that worried about paying for a sub and MTs. Find out how to make some decent money in-game and start paying for your sub with ISK bought PLEX. It's really not that hard to scrounge up 300m a month. |
Herring
Caldari
Pimpology
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Posted - 2011.07.05 02:39:00 - [ 54]
Originally by: Michelear
Edited by: Michelear on 04/07/2011 23:41:19
Originally by: Herring
Originally by: Michelear
If you don't want to pay for MTs. Don't pay for MTs. Wow, that was HARD to figure out. Some of us actually have jobs and can afford a few things we want. I'm sorry you can't milk any more from mommy.
Not the point and you know it. Eve was a subscription game. You pay an amount, you get access to all content in the game. Now your subscription does not allow you to access all content in the game. Pretty simple. Not worth it.
Originally by: Michelear
And WOW at your last statement. Research before you talk much? "What an idiot..." Yes, literally.. You exemplify that statement.
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful? Do some research yourself. Stupid ****er.
It's exactly the point. They're not selling upgrades or P2W items in EVE, so if you don't want to pay extra, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. What "content" exactly are you missing out on? Obviously my definition of game "content" is much different than yours. Vanity items =/= content.
About the successful MT games:
League of Legends
Team Fortress 2
Lord of the Rings Online
Dungeons & Dragons Online
Everquest 2
Combat Arms
Order & Chaos
Heroes of Newerth
War of Legends
(And the list goes on and on and on..)
Once again, I'll say it. YOU do some research, you blind, idiotic excuse for a member of the EVE community.
Oh, and atleast I'm man enough to post on my main. Nice alt you've got there, *****.
You poor pathetic twit. This is my main. Also, your list is not filled with subscription based + mt games. It's filled with f2p + mt games. I don't have a problem with the f2p + mt model. So let me ask again, this time seriously. I won't even insult you (as you deserve to be insulted) further; list some subscription based + mt games that are successful (doing well). I'd be most interested to see any games that changed their business model 8 years into the game. And before you go into the 'vanity items aren't content' argument as you did with the poster above, vanity items are content. Firstly, because they change your character's appearance ingame. They are just as much content as a cyno effect or a ship explosion graphic. Secondly, ongoing development of these items pulls resources away from what you would call 'real content' IE internet spaceships over the long term. Yes, they are content. No, they are not healthy in a subscription based game. |
Haulin Aussie |
Posted - 2011.07.05 03:32:00 - [ 55]
Originally by: Herring
Originally by: Michelear
Edited by: Michelear on 04/07/2011 23:41:19
Originally by: Herring
Originally by: Michelear
If you don't want to pay for MTs. Don't pay for MTs. Wow, that was HARD to figure out. Some of us actually have jobs and can afford a few things we want. I'm sorry you can't milk any more from mommy.
Not the point and you know it. Eve was a subscription game. You pay an amount, you get access to all content in the game. Now your subscription does not allow you to access all content in the game. Pretty simple. Not worth it.
Originally by: Michelear
And WOW at your last statement. Research before you talk much? "What an idiot..." Yes, literally.. You exemplify that statement.
Why don't you try listing some successful subscription + mt games. You know why they aren't successful? Do some research yourself. Stupid ****er.
It's exactly the point. They're not selling upgrades or P2W items in EVE, so if you don't want to pay extra, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. What "content" exactly are you missing out on? Obviously my definition of game "content" is much different than yours. Vanity items =/= content.
About the successful MT games:
League of Legends
Team Fortress 2
Lord of the Rings Online
Dungeons & Dragons Online
Everquest 2
Combat Arms
Order & Chaos
Heroes of Newerth
War of Legends
(And the list goes on and on and on..)
Once again, I'll say it. YOU do some research, you blind, idiotic excuse for a member of the EVE community.
Oh, and atleast I'm man enough to post on my main. Nice alt you've got there, *****.
You poor pathetic twit. This is my main. Also, your list is not filled with subscription based + mt games. It's filled with f2p + mt games. I don't have a problem with the f2p + mt model.
So let me ask again, this time seriously. I won't even insult you (as you deserve to be insulted) further; list some subscription based + mt games that are successful (doing well). I'd be most interested to see any games that changed their business model 8 years into the game.
And before you go into the 'vanity items aren't content' argument as you did with the poster above, vanity items are content. Firstly, because they change your character's appearance ingame. They are just as much content as a cyno effect or a ship explosion graphic. Secondly, ongoing development of these items pulls resources away from what you would call 'real content' IE internet spaceships over the long term. Yes, they are content. No, they are not healthy in a subscription based game.
What he said |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
|
Posted - 2011.07.05 17:43:00 - [ 56]
Originally by: Michelear
You OBVIOUSLY haven't played many MT games these days, bud. You're horribly mistaken.
[Citation Needed]Simply stating something as being obvious does not exempt you from having to provide proof to back up wide-sweeping statements. You would also do well not provide an counter to a statement I never made. Nowhere did I state anything you can counter with "MT Games Are Flourishing". I simply countered your pretty silly statement that (and I quote) "but they're [microtransactions] a great way for a company to make money and keep developing content." Microtransactions promote content that is developed specifically to be sold, and usually because it is being sold, it is either in the form of Global Agenda's "Pay to Win-ish" method or our current NeX "Pay to look different" method. Microtransactions, by definition, do not promote development of "open content". The subscription model, on the other hand promotes the development of content that is accessible to all subscribers. This was, previously, CCP's statement with Eve- everyone can access all content in the game without having to shell out more real money than anyone else. No need to pay for an expansion or otherwise be locked out of a certain sector of content. I'm not going to get into an argument with the semantics behind the NeX store (because trust me, i'm tired of making my point there). Microtransaction games may be "Flourishing", but I know of none which develop as much content as Eve which does not come with a pricetag to said content. |
Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2011.07.05 17:50:00 - [ 57]
Originally by: Zagdul
Himlar is right.
He needs to stop listening to the whiny **** on these forums.
He also needs to stop double-dog-daring his players to quit when the spaceships part of EVE, which they actually play, hasn't received a major update in over 2 years. I guess I'm just saying "faults on both sides" and all.... |
Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
|
Posted - 2011.07.05 17:58:00 - [ 58]
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 05/07/2011 18:00:24 Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Michelear
You OBVIOUSLY haven't played many MT games these days, bud. You're horribly mistaken.
[Citation Needed]
Simply stating something as being obvious does not exempt you from having to provide proof to back up wide-sweeping statements. You would also do well not provide an counter to a statement I never made.
Nowhere did I state anything you can counter with "MT Games Are Flourishing". I simply countered your pretty silly statement that (and I quote) "but they're [microtransactions] a great way for a company to make money and keep developing content."
Microtransactions promote content that is developed specifically to be sold, and usually because it is being sold, it is either in the form of Global Agenda's "Pay to Win-ish" method or our current NeX "Pay to look different" method. Microtransactions, by definition, do not promote development of "open content".
The subscription model, on the other hand promotes the development of content that is accessible to all subscribers. This was, previously, CCP's statement with Eve- everyone can access all content in the game without having to shell out more real money than anyone else. No need to pay for an expansion or otherwise be locked out of a certain sector of content.
I'm not going to get into an argument with the semantics behind the NeX store (because trust me, i'm tired of making my point there).
Microtransaction games may be "Flourishing", but I know of none which develop as much content as Eve which does not come with a pricetag to said content.
I personally agree that vanity items fall into the category of "content". Where I disagree is with your insinuation that you must pay additional money to get those items. Any vanity items released will be freely available to purchase with ISK, just like any other item in game. Your subscription fee does not mean you will be given ANYTHING from the market as part of that fee, this includes ships, modules, monocles, whatever. If I buy a PLEX with cash, it is to redeem for game time or (more likely) to sell for ISK. When that is done, the transaction is over. I could care less what other people will do with the PLEX once I have sold it. I have what I wanted, CCP has what they wanted, the person that purchases it from me will presumably get what they want with it. When I buy a PLEX for AURUM conversion to spend in the NEX I spend ISK, just like like I do for every other piece of content in the game. Now you "can" cut to the chase and spend cash for that PLEX with the sole intention of converting it to AURUM and shopping in the NeX, but that is completely optional... not required. So no, you are not being excluded from any content because you choose not to spend more than your subscription fee. C'mon, you know this already. |
Corina's Bodyguard |
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:00:00 - [ 59]
Originally by: Ranger 1
The email in question says basically these two things.
1: CCP will pay attention to what the overall player base does with the new content.
2: CCP will pay little attention to what the small percentage of forum *****s have to say about the new content.
If you are offended, we know which camp you belong in.
Correction: 1) they will pay attention to what a small percentage of players do. 2) they will ignore what all the players say, on the forums, through petitions, ingame chat channels. They don't care about our opinions anymore. Only the actions that benefit them. |
Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
|
Posted - 2011.07.05 18:03:00 - [ 60]
Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard
Originally by: Ranger 1
The email in question says basically these two things.
1: CCP will pay attention to what the overall player base does with the new content.
2: CCP will pay little attention to what the small percentage of forum *****s have to say about the new content.
If you are offended, we know which camp you belong in.
Correction:
1) they will pay attention to what a small percentage of players do.
2) they will ignore what all the players say, on the forums, through petitions, ingame chat channels.
They don't care about our opinions anymore. Only the actions that benefit them.
People that file petitions for game bugs are "doing" something, which gets noticed. People wailing on the forums are doing just that. You do realize that the forum community is likely less than 2% of the player base right? |
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