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Ace Echo
Gallente
The Shadow Raiders
Posted - 2011.06.30 22:07:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:53:25
The Vangel and Malice... DAMN!

[Vangel, wow]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Reactor Control Unit II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

660 DPS omni tank, drains 120 cap a second (up to 25km away), and goes 680m/s.
CAP STABLE!

EDIT: after so many people calling me 'dumb' I'd like to iterate that this fit is to only demonstrate capacitor and powergrid of these ships, not to actually demonstrate a powerful fit.

The malice ain't much different. only smaller.

I know, setup is pretty crappy and there ARE things that can beat these ships, but still - damn powerful. I can see these being heavily used in next year's alliance tournament.

The Adriesta and the Utu - those ships were pretty crappy already, but compared to these...


Is there a catch to these ships I'm not seeing or are these ships simply really powerful compared to previous AT rewards?

EDIT: For those of you who haven't seen much of the ships yet, linkage

Shadowy Assistant
Darkrime Industries
Posted - 2011.06.30 23:43:00 - [2]
 

Why are you so dumb?

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2011.07.01 00:10:00 - [3]
 

There are no words to describe the....

God can I please unsee that fit?

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2011.07.01 00:22:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Roosterton on 01/07/2011 00:23:19
Anyone who regularly plays on SiSi can tell you that the Adrestia/Utu are ridiculously OP as well. (Kiting at 3000m/s while pointing from 65km and blasting things with railguns, or perma active tanking two BS up close while melting things with blasters.)

But the Minmatar ones are pretty suck, the Freki is just a Hyena with more tank and the Mimir is total ****. Like, you wouldn't use a Mimir even if it was a HAC and not a limited issue AT prize.

Ace Echo
Gallente
The Shadow Raiders
Posted - 2011.07.01 00:39:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 00:41:28
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
There are no words to describe the....

God can I please unsee that fit?



I'd challenge you to come up with a worse one that still uses t2 med mods.

I came up with that fit in under a minute simply to prove the stats - I said the fit was crappy and I would never take something like that out to a roam (if I had the choice to fit it better). The point was to show it could, not necessarily that I wanted it to.

Originally by: Roosterton
Anyone who regularly plays on SiSi can tell you that the Adrestia/Utu are ridiculously OP as well.



Hmm I've flown on SiSi quite a bit and have fought only 3 or 4 - I've never had a problem tanking them, tackling them, and killing them in my t2/faction fit Proteus. The ones I've fought must have been flown really bad.

Shereza
Posted - 2011.07.01 05:30:00 - [6]
 

An assault ship with four bonuses? I never thought I'd see the day. I wonder which developer was spiking the punch in order to get that design past the "four bonuses would be OP/assault ships don't need a fourth bonus" developers and QA personnel.

Kyraen
Posted - 2011.07.01 06:17:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Kyraen on 01/07/2011 06:18:35
The Mimir doesn't seem that bad :)
At least looking at this video

Razz

Veshta Yoshida
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:29:00 - [8]
 

Anyone tested to see if the Vangle armour repair bonus applied to RR as well (description is ambiguous)?

HYDRA ****ed up big time (beyond ruining the tourny Crying or Very sad). Who the hell would want a neuting lol-Sacrilege instead of a neuting OMG-Slicer .. suckers!

Spookyjay
Caldari
Animosity.
Posted - 2011.07.01 07:42:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Roosterton
Edited by: Roosterton on 01/07/2011 00:23:19
Anyone who regularly plays on SiSi can tell you that the Adrestia/Utu are ridiculously OP as well. (Kiting at 3000m/s while pointing from 65km and blasting things with railguns, or perma active tanking two BS up close while melting things with blasters.)

But the Minmatar ones are pretty suck, the Freki is just a Hyena with more tank and the Mimir is total ****. Like, you wouldn't use a Mimir even if it was a HAC and not a limited issue AT prize.


Have you tried the t2 blaster null set-up? blasters at 30km tasty. Minmatar one is also good.

Wardeneo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.01 10:06:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Wardeneo on 01/07/2011 10:09:30

Originally by: Ace Echo

[Vangel, wow]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Reactor Control Unit II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II




wow ur dumb as **** - 4 reps n no resist mods...

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.07.01 13:52:00 - [11]
 

I think the purpose of the fitting was to demonstrate the absurd powergrid and capacitor these ships possess, not to present them as a valid fitting.

Am I mistaken?

Songbird
Gallente
T.I.E. Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:05:00 - [12]
 

I remember blasting one of those AT cruisers on sisi with a machariel with artillery - hehe he had a carrier repairing him too. Very satisfying :)

But yeah - these things will sell for billions, stay in hangars and they might see use in some future AT , might not

QuIlliO
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:26:00 - [13]
 

Shadowy, Alara, Wardeneo, post your fits or STFU.

Wensley
Minmatar
Matari Exodus
Posted - 2011.07.01 14:36:00 - [14]
 

Wow. I never knew this was a SiSi fitting forum!

Songbird
Gallente
T.I.E. Inc.
Posted - 2011.07.01 15:11:00 - [15]
 

sisi rocks when you just wanna relax , not care about anything and just blast stuff, too bad all your buddies continue to live in the real wor..err server.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.07.01 15:33:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 01/07/2011 15:33:11
Originally by: Veshta Yoshida
Anyone tested to see if the Vangle armour repair bonus applied to RR as well (description is ambiguous)?

HYDRA ****ed up big time (beyond ruining the tourny Crying or Very sad). Who the hell would want a neuting lol-Sacrilege instead of a neuting OMG-Slicer .. suckers!


0utbreak is hydra's professional ball lickers and b team, so I bet Hydra actually has both sets of prize ships.

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.07.01 16:49:00 - [17]
 

What's up with the Malice?

Quote:
Role Bonus: 100% bonus to Small Energy Turret Damage per level and 50% bonus to Small Energy Turret optimal range


Per level of what?

Ace Echo
Gallente
The Shadow Raiders
Posted - 2011.07.01 17:49:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:51:40
Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:49:24
Originally by: Wardeneo
Edited by: Wardeneo on 01/07/2011 10:09:30
wow ur dumb as **** - 4 reps n no resist mods...


It already has 60-70% omni resists with base + skills, ditching a rep and adding an EANM would actually worsen the tank.

Originally by: Aamrr
I think the purpose of the fitting was to demonstrate the absurd powergrid and capacitor these ships possess, not to present them as a valid fitting.

Am I mistaken?


No, you're exactly right.


Abdiel: Probly typo.

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.07.01 18:23:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ace Echo

It already has 60-70% omni resists with base + skills, ditching a rep and adding an EANM would actually worsen the tank.



Remember that stacking penalties don't apply to the base resists of the ship. Dropping from 4 reps to 3 reduces your active tank by 25%. However, an EANM gives 25% resists to everything, so this would in fact give you an identical active rep, increase your EHP, and save capacitor, powergrid, and CPU.

...just saying.

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.07.01 19:37:00 - [20]
 

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Cool ships though...

Ace Echo
Gallente
The Shadow Raiders
Posted - 2011.07.02 03:31:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Aamrr

Remember that stacking penalties don't apply to the base resists of the ship. Dropping from 4 reps to 3 reduces your active tank by 25%. However, an EANM gives 25% resists to everything, so this would in fact give you an identical active rep, increase your EHP, and save capacitor, powergrid, and CPU.
...just saying.


EFT says otherwise-

ah just messed around with it a bit more... heh I was fitting it with a t1 EANM on accident.


It's still a ****fit.

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2011.07.02 04:01:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Kyraen
Edited by: Kyraen on 01/07/2011 06:18:35
The Mimir doesn't seem that bad :)
At least looking at this video

Razz


He says it himself: "The ship is ****."

You *could* follow the armor resist bonus, but then it's just like a slightly faster armorCane. Or you could ignore the bonus and shield tank it, but then it's a squishier Vagabond. It's only really nice for how damn awesome it looks.

Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood
Posted - 2011.07.02 19:48:00 - [23]
 

Compared to the quality of the Adrestia, the Vangel is an extremely poor ship.

The R00k
Posted - 2011.07.03 08:42:00 - [24]
 

not really. in theory it should beat a adrestia every time 1v1 it has neuts to 30km. missiles and good tank. it should beat a adrestia or at least make it run off.

Angsty Teenager
Posted - 2011.07.03 21:13:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: The R00k
not really. in theory it should beat a adrestia every time 1v1 it has neuts to 30km. missiles and good tank. it should beat a adrestia or at least make it run off.


Except that the adestria can point 100km with an overloaded and loki boosted faction point. It can also point greater than 30km without any boosting or overloading. Oh yea, and the adestria can go way faster and can do 700ish dps at 40-50km.

Tell me again, how does the vangel beat it?

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2011.07.04 06:35:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Angsty Teenager


Oh yea, and the adestria can go way faster and can do 700ish dps at 40-50km.

Tell me again, how does the vangel beat it?



I was all for trolling the OP until you had to post this Idiocy but you realize how unpractical and Stupid a Ranged Kite fit 250mm Rail Adestria is right? You are aware you need to actually track and hit the target to achieve such numbers, and also Your looking at 20-30km Not 40-50k. Come back and post again when you stop posting like a Angsty Teenager.


On a side note, I really want to see that dubious fitting you plan to fit on to the Adestria...

Jackuu Bauwaah
Posted - 2011.07.04 08:27:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Ace Echo
Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:53:25
The Adriesta and the Utu - those ships were pretty crappy already, but compared to these...


Son you ******ed?
The adrestia is bloody awsome

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2011.07.04 11:17:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 04/07/2011 11:24:25
Here's a couple fits.

[Adrestia, Pewsie]
'Bailey' 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I
Brokara's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
'Radical' Damage Control I
Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Domination Warp Disruptor
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Hybrid Ambit Extension II
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters II


Valkyrie II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

[Vangel, Pewsie]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Dark Blood Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Domination Warp Disruptor
Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I

Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x10

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.04 14:06:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 04/07/2011 11:24:25
Here's a couple fits.

[Adrestia, Pewsie]
'Bailey' 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I
Brokara's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
'Radical' Damage Control I
Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Domination Warp Disruptor
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Hybrid Ambit Extension II
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters II


Valkyrie II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

[Vangel, Pewsie]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Dark Blood Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Domination Warp Disruptor
Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I

Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x10



Too bad the HAMs have terrible range compared to what could have been, but Vangel is interesting.

Herp Mcgeeee
Posted - 2011.07.04 14:42:00 - [30]
 


[Vangel, Bangel]

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile

10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Warp Disruptor II
Cap Recharger II

Damage Control II
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x5

1.7k DPS Tank
324 DPS
28km range with javs


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