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Lady Ayeipsia |
Posted - 2011.06.24 11:54:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia on 24/06/2011 11:55:03
So should I train y2k medium lasers, or will autocannons work well? |
Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided |
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:28:00 - [ 2]
Anything is possible. But why you would give up the RoF Bonus is a little bit mysterious. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School |
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:00:00 - [ 3]
 Originally by: Val'Dore
Anything is possible. But why you would give up the RoF Bonus is a little bit mysterious.
Well a HICs role in combat is not damage dealing and projectiles are slightly more flexible and capless. More cap to run your resists and your tackle. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.24 15:02:00 - [ 4]
Originally by: Val'Dore
Anything is possible. But why you would give up the RoF Bonus is a little bit mysterious.
Four guns with a 33%dps increase = 5.33 guns worth of dps, or a smidgen higher than a Maller. It is never going to be a damage dealer so using some fast tracking guns like ACs to help clear tackle and drones makes a lot more sense than using lasers to get that +1.33 guns worth of damage. |
Valentina Valentia
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.25 23:22:00 - [ 5]
I <3 My DEVOTER w/ AC, and my Maller with AC 425mm!!.. and my Amarr Ships with ACs!!!... oh hell I Love ACs more than anything - GUNS are GREAT!
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Aamrr |
Posted - 2011.06.26 04:36:00 - [ 6]
I've seen quite a few hictors that don't fit turrets at all. Nosferatu provide an attractive alternative to capacitor boosters for keeping your bubbles and points running. This is particularly true for shield tankers, which are already midslot constrained (propulsion, LSEs, and hardeners). These ships often have excess powergrid from the numerous power diagnostics in their low slots, so fitting nosferatu is a nonissue.
Because of CPU issues, the devoter isn't quite as well suited to it, but it's still a perfectly viable highslot configuration.
Cloaks and cynos are also attractive options. |
TheMan WhoSoldTheWorld |
Posted - 2011.06.26 05:37:00 - [ 7]
Yes, I hear the amount of PDU's on the standard issue Devoter fits are staggering. |
Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided |
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:00:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Val'Dore
Anything is possible. But why you would give up the RoF Bonus is a little bit mysterious.
Four guns with a 33%dps increase = 5.33 guns worth of dps, or a smidgen higher than a Maller.
It is never going to be a damage dealer so using some fast tracking guns like ACs to help clear tackle and drones makes a lot more sense than using lasers to get that +1.33 guns worth of damage.
Yet that still translates to a loss of 49% DPS using ACs over PLs. |
Theron Gyrow
Gradient
Electus Matari |
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:14:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: Val'Dore
Yet that still translates to a loss of 49% DPS using ACs over PLs.
33% loss, actually (using lasers instead of ACs is 49% gain). If you suspect that you will be in a fight where that ~70 DPS with worse tracking but better range will be worth the fitting (+277.2 grid, +30 CPU total) and cap use, certainly do fit lasers. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:31:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
...If you suspect that you will be in a fight where that ~70 DPS with worse tracking but better range will be worth the fitting (+277.2 grid, +30 CPU total) and cap use, certainly do fit lasers.
Lasers sure do seem rather an ugly alternative when presented that way  |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation |
Posted - 2011.06.26 07:58:00 - [ 11]
Depends what your thinking with the fit is.
A lot of devoter fits I see no reason why not.
Often you're just there to bubble/tackle and losing the gun DPS is of no great consequence. |
Aamrr |
Posted - 2011.06.26 08:10:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: TheMan WhoSoldTheWorld
Yes, I hear the amount of PDU's on the standard issue Devoter fits are staggering.
Oh, don't be an ass. I clearly said that it was in particular a shield strategy, but still relevant to armor tankers. Don't disregard the entire point of the post just because one particular piece isn't relevant. And while the devoter doesn't fit power diagnostics, it is an Amarrian ship and comes with an appropriately large powergrid. The source is irrelevant. If you focus on resist tanking and fit only 2 plates, your EHP remains basically identical while sparing the powergrid for nosferatu. Forum trolls, these days... |
Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided |
Posted - 2011.06.26 08:58:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
Originally by: Val'Dore
Yet that still translates to a loss of 49% DPS using ACs over PLs.
33% loss, actually (using lasers instead of ACs is 49% gain).
Either way, PLs do 49% more DPS than ACs on the Devoter. Quote:
If you suspect that you will be in a fight where that ~70 DPS with worse tracking but better range will be worth the fitting (+277.2 grid, +30 CPU total) and cap use, certainly do fit lasers.
Well, in any situation where you need any DPS at all, more is better. If the amount of DPS didn't actually matter, you might as well fit Small Lasers or something and save on fittings. |
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