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Amda Tori
Minmatar |
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:58:00 - [ 1]
Hello !
I just trained to fly a Loki. :>
And i seek your advice in what fitting should I use to run Incursions with it.
I'll just look up for a fleet, not something organized.
Shield Loki or Armor Loki ?
I got perfect skills in gunnery, good skills in armor tank and shield tank.
So, what Loki fitting would you advice, please ?:)
Is a Loki better than a Tengu for Incurions ? I can fly both.
Thank You,
Amda Tori |
Isan'na
Malicious Destruction |
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:27:00 - [ 2]
[Loki, Vanguard Blitz - Shield]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Auto Targeting System II
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
[Loki, Vanguard Blitz - Armor]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Damage Control II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Both fits are pretty aggressive, but will work, and were designed around always having a fleet booster and experienced logi. YMMV and you may want to add another resist mod to each, especially since you're not running with a prearranged group. If you're going to use a loki, keep it in Vanguards. It doesn't have the damage projection to really do well in Assaults - which, to answer your other question, is where the Tengu shines.
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JackStraw56
Bayesian Motion
Knights of Tomorrow |
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:49:00 - [ 3]
Last reply was very good. Loki is not a bad Vanguard ship at all, but not ideal for larger sites.
The long range Loki webs are nice, but not all that special, so make sure you fit it to do good dps also (lots of damage and falloff mods). Some people slap 1-2 webs on and call it a day, but you need to be doing dps.
This is the fit I used (MWD could be swapped for another tracking computer depending on how much you like to move around)
[Loki, Incursion ACs]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Centum A-Type Energized Magnetic Membrane
Centum A-Type Energized Reactive Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Domination 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
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Blacksquirrel |
Posted - 2011.06.24 03:33:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Blacksquirrel on 24/06/2011 03:39:36
Edited by: Blacksquirrel on 24/06/2011 03:38:51
Depends on the fleet, but I've noticed people want the web bonus more than anything so I armor tank to fit 2 of em on there. (You can shield tank with web bonus but it sucks...
I like extra tank.
lows
2x active hardeners
1600
2 gyros
one EANM
mids
2 webs
ab or mwd
TC
highs
425s
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - turret concurrency (swap out if fleet wants logi drones, but webbed and bonuses to tracking == no problems hitting frigs.)
Loki Propulsion - fuel catalyst
mods either more tank or gank depending upon what you think your missing.
With this setup all resists are above 80...
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Songbird
Gallente
T.I.E. Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:48:00 - [ 5]
1 reply was good , even down to the auto targeter which should be equipped instead of the drone range thingie I've seen so many people put in the free slot in the shield config.
In the shield config I use a damage control instead of 1 of the damage or range mods for extra tank.
there's a shield config with 5 mids , which unfortunately has 5 turrets also. Might be worth it for the extra slot.
for the armor config I use 2(coreli or centii or corpii) a-type adaptive nano platings - an extra % resists, easy to fit and only 80mil on the contracts marker
1 last note - I get much higher hits using barrage so if you can afford it...in most of the fleets you'd be the support not the primary damage dealer though :) |
Winking Browneye |
Posted - 2011.06.24 15:10:00 - [ 6]
I use this in armour fleet:
[Loki, incrusions]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet 10mn Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
One of my alt accounts runs an offgrid gangbooster wth skirmish links (and some non bonused armour links).
With the skirmish links and good skills, you get 750 m/s speed, 700 dps, and 46.8km web range.
Switch a web for a TC if you want more range, but I find it has adequate range already with Barrage (although dps drops a bit), your main job is to web stuff down, so your battleships can kill it, and with 3 46km webs, thats everything in Vanguards (except mara paleos, which you ignore anyway).
Before I bought the loki, I flew a Huginn in armour fleets, with 3 webs (75km) and 3 target painters, but I find that the dps that your battleships lose from the missing bonused painters is made up for with the lokis DPS and more efficient resists.
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
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