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Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:56:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Jada Maroo on 25/06/2011 01:47:03
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Microtransactions?
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Kotaku - Furious Over Microtransactions, EVE Online Community Explodes with Rioting - "EVE's culture is on the verge of collapse"

Joystiq - Controversy brewing over Eve Online microtransactions - "The current prices on items in the Noble Exchange are far above typical microtransaction charges and an order of magnitude higher than expected"


The Escapist - EVE Online Players Flip a Lid Over Virtual Clothing - "Imagine if Oblivion's horse armor had been sold - in space - for more than the price of a real-life horse."

Eurogamer - Eve Online Dev Responds to Online Furor - "The developer had already been broadly criticized for introducing avatar monocles at an eye-watering cost of $70."

MMO Site - CCP Becomes too Greedy?

Massively - Rumour: Leaked document shows CCP's microtransaction plans


PC Gamer - Eve Online now selling $70 monocles - "The cost of these items is far, far beyond most DLC prices"


Kotaku - Eve Online is selling horse armour in space - "you’d think CCP would have been a little more subtle about fleecing the devoted"


VG247 - EVE Online economy upset by avatar items - "they’re probably better classed as 'macro-transactions'."


MMOGA - Eve Online Charging 68 Real Dollars For Space Monocles - "quite one of the most ludicrous cases of overpriced DLC I have ever heard"


RockPaperShotgun - Eek: EVE’s Clothing And Cash Crisis - "The vanity items appear to have been comically overpriced."


Gamer Gaia - "the most ludicrous cases of overpriced DLC I have ever heard"

Games On Net - "These prices match or often exceed actual real-world prices for the same items (minus the robotic eye) which leads players to wonder what, exactly, is going on."


In German:

Golem - Kapitänsquartiere und 50-Euro-Monokel

Gamestar - Eve Online - Incarna-Update veröffentlicht, Mondpreise im Itemshop

En francaise!

Factor News - Eve Online fait plus fort que l'armure de cheval


Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted!

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:59:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 28/06/2011 17:54:07
Ten ton hammer - I bet the Monopoly guy never had this problem.

Gaming Rev - Eve online greed

Gaming Rev - Greed is Good pt 2 - It’s a Shame such a good game is going down this path as the developers go to war with their users

Seleene's sandbox - The idea that a pair of BOOTS would cost as much as multiple, fully fit battleships is not just immersion breaking, it's just... how can this even make sense?

Zurakaru Wordpress - Noble Exchange = CCP Elitism

EuroGamer - Greed is good?

MMORPG

Rock paper shotgun - CCP Defends Crazy Clothes Cost

Kotaku - EVE's culture is on the verge of collapse

Eurogamer - Greed is good w/ full fearless magazine

Strategy Informer - not pleased with the forced graphics upgrade

Games On Net - "...developer appears to be taking a dismissive attitude to player concerns"

Myth Games - Protests Following Incarna - "many players feel that the expansion is incomplete, and a serious step in the wrong direction"

Massively - Eve Online Controversy Erupts In Protests - "Players have gathered en masse at Rens, Jita, and Amarr to show their displeasure."

Zicos - e-mail from CCP CEO Hilmar Pétursson was like gas on a fire

PCmag - Gamers Riot Over Microtransactions

Massively - The day Eve Online died "unmitigated disaster for CCP Games"

Kotaku - Is EVE Online’s Clothing Fiasco the "Sad Culmination of Vainness"?

The Escapist - EVE Online Dev Rethinking Virtual Clothing Issue

Rock paper shotgun - Eve Online in crysis

Eurogamer - Eve Online in crysis

ShackNews - EVE Online clothing causes microtransaction debate

MMORPG - Cancelled Subs Could Cost CCP $1 Million

The Escapist - More Trouble for EvE Online: CCP Debt

Cracked - The 7 Biggest **** Moves in the History of Online Gaming

Chandler Urandom
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:00:00 - [3]
 

Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now.

"Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!"

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:00:00 - [4]
 

so sad ... so sad

I cancelled subscription, it sure was fun. I do hope to return.
AG

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:06:00 - [5]
 

pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players.

everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:08:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Chandler Urandom
Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now.

"Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!"


I discourage them from even trying the game now. People don't take kindly to the possibility of some amateurishly designed piece of software taxing your hardware to death.

Jason1138
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:09:00 - [7]
 

i personally have no problem with microtransactions. i bought the horse armor in oblivion and i was happy to do it

what i have a problem with is "micro"transactions that cost more than the game that i'm playing does. $20 for a pretend t shirt is ******ed. $70 for a pretend monocle is just insane

or even if you're getting it with isk, who would rather have a monocle than a carrier or bhaalgorn? this crap is 10x as much as any sane person would pay for it

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:10:00 - [8]
 

Good thing CCP isn't forcing us to buy vanity items Cool

Thomas Turnpoint
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:11:00 - [9]
 

It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers.

That's talent.

Bklyn 1
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:12:00 - [10]
 

Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:12:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers.

That's talent.


Maybe that's the monocle's true power. What other power might it secretly have! Laughing

Takseen
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:14:00 - [12]
 

I'm not sure the $2.50 Oblivion horse armour is a fair comparison. A better one would be the $25 dollar mounts Blizzad sold to their playerbase. And people have bought codes for Trading Card Game reward mounts on EBay for hundreds of dollars.

Personally I'm a bit bemused by the whole fuss here. Any of the in-game cosmetic items can be purchased using in-game currency. And the rarer items wouldn't have any prestige attached to them if any level 4 mission grinder could buy them. Even in-game advantages aren't a new thing. Power of Two promotion anyone? Scouting alts, hauler alts, repping alts, probing alts, supercap alts. All ways to turn $ into in-game benefits that can't be earned through normal gameplay.

The only point I'd agree with is that by spending all this time on designing vanity items available to a small wealthy subsection of Eve, the regular subscriber is being ignored. The guys designing the Ishukone Scorpion could have been updating the uglier standard models instead. The guys who built the NEX UI could have been fixing the corp or LP store UI instead. And so on.

Alindra Starweaver
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:14:00 - [13]
 

SO ... these are the "micro" purchases? Shocked

Hopefully there will be a re-think on the prices very soon - like on server reset. Cool

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:15:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Katrina Cortez

Articles like that are going to hurt new subscriber rates I'm sure.



Really?

Are you serious?

What planet you come from?

Because on this one, the sames wining "blah blah" are the same paying huge amounts of real cash and using hack programs to buy new "super guns" and masks for their "captain".

Tetris is free thou.
Rolling Eyes


Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:16:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers.

That's talent.


lmao!

C.

Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:17:00 - [16]
 

havnt cancelld yet, but lets se when they introduce extra powerfull ammo without removing subscription fees. CCP=YARRRR!!

Dante Marcellus
Minmatar
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:18:00 - [17]
 

All the joking aside, there are things I would like to purchase in the store, since I do enjoy a little vanity every so often... but, I'm not sure if the ISK spent would be easily justifiable. I would love to have a monocle though, hmm.

General Xenophon
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:18:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: General Xenophon on 22/06/2011 23:19:34
Originally by: Ayieka
pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players.

everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude.


Did you skip maths in school?

Things in TF2 don't cost 68...

It's called 'Micro-transactions' not 'Macro-transactions'. Also no place for this BS in Pay to Play games. And if CCP thinks this is the case, and actually makes it happen, can you IMAGINE what this will do to monthly fee games? It's going to RUIN games.

Thomas Turnpoint
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:18:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Bklyn 1
Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate.


The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary).
That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness.

Isil Rahsen
Gallente
Ferrum Superum
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:19:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers.

That's talent.
You sir, have made me laugh heartily. Razz

RensPriceChecker2
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:20:00 - [21]
 


Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:21:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players.

everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude.


i love microtransactions, it makes me able to play games for free within limits.ExclamationExclamation

Angel of Night
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:22:00 - [23]
 

Used to care, but now CCP is only part of the history to me. Good luck with the new playerbase.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:23:00 - [24]
 

These guys are all bought and paid for with Adverts.
It just tells me CCP haven't advertised with them.

Back when Evony first came on the scene, they had cash stores that would make you puke but they also had an Advertisement campaign that ran deep and nobody said **** about thier over priced very disposeable items store.

When EVE C-Store sells 15 minute SP speed ups for $5.00 they will be on Evony level. When CCO throw the Advert money around Evony did, we won't hear about it.

Emiko P'eng
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:25:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers.

That's talent.

Hehe! look at the LulzSec's banner image!

BBC Technology: - LulzSec opens hack request line

It is a man with a monocle! One of the Devs is a LulzSec inside man, tasked with bring down EVE from within! I wonder if he will empty CCP's corporate Bank account before he leaves, for the final true revenge Very Happy

Dograzor
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:26:00 - [26]
 

Life is about Action & Reaction. Reap what you Sow. etc. All major cultures have sayings that come down to this basic message.

**** off the player base like this, and you need to deal with the consequences CCP. Sad

Alissa Solette
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:27:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Alissa Solette on 22/06/2011 23:28:07
Originally by: Chandler Urandom
Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now.

"Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!"


I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the item mall and overprized monocles. *shudder*

Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:27:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Takseen
I'm not sure the $2.50 Oblivion horse armour is a fair comparison.


Actually, that's more on the dot than anything. Oblivion is a single-player game. Incarna will be a single-player experience for a fairly long time to come. To be fair, we have portraits, but a large selection on that market can't be shown on there anyway.

It's lame money-grabbing, ignoring any useful concepts on microtransactions along the way. Customers need to be eased (some say suckered) into the whole idea. Now it's just going to end up to be made for douchebags, by douchebags.

Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:29:00 - [29]
 

got a article in the works for tomorrow
not so sugar coated O_o

what CCP marketing were thinking at the time
(how degrade the image of eveonline?)


Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:30:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers.

That's talent.


Maybe that's the monocle's true power. What other power might it secretly have! Laughing


When you put it on, you troll poor people.


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