Posted - 2011.06.22 06:53:00 - [2]

 

You're doing it wrong then.. I just went out for some exploration, went with 6 probes, but decided 4 was easier to manage and quicker with my skills.. I saw no drop in my scan strengths to signatures, using my standard 4 probes. ( as compared to before incarna )

Posted - 2011.06.22 07:00:00 - [4]

 

There have been complaints that bonuses are not properly applied for drones, possibly other stuff as well.

Maybe check your probe strength in game and compare to what it should be?

Posted - 2011.06.22 07:03:00 - [6]

 

Originally by: Kuronaga

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If you probing nerds can do me a quick favor -- how drastic was the "nerf" to unscannable T3 setups?

Is it actually possible to catch a T3 now, or is just lolpossible?

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lolpossible

Posted - 2011.06.22 07:08:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Omara Otawan

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There have been complaints that bonuses are not properly applied for drones, possibly other stuff as well.

Maybe check your probe strength in game and compare to what it should be?

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This!

Missiles drones many things are not working for many people. It is highly likely this is not an intended change but your bonuses not applying due to the bug.

One thing to try as a temporary measure strip your fit and repackage everything (Except the rigs of course dont break them) then refit the ship. Someone reported that worked tho I have not tried it.

If you do that and it fixed it can you report back here so we can confirm it as a part of the bonus issue?

Posted - 2011.06.22 07:09:00 - [10]

 

I'm getting the same problem. Before the patch I'd probe down 10/10s with 4 probes very easily. After the patch I had to use 5 to get to 100%

Posted - 2011.06.22 07:29:00 - [12]

 

Edited by: MisterAl tt1 on 22/06/2011 07:45:31
Edited by: MisterAl tt1 on 22/06/2011 07:30:21
Checking the "bonuses not applied" thing:
Signature under consideration: V911
Expected strengths from 1 probe at 32AU: 3.47-5.21
Actual strengths got: 2.6

Now, one old bug: if you leave a probe in the system, go to the other system, then return and reconnect to the probe - your bonuses are not applied to it (at least some bonuses).

mmm... the same 2.6 So either you are right and the case is that, or they have fixed that old bug. But for me it looks like that is the thing I wrote of.

The fact is expected strenght for 32 and 64 AU probe are multiplied (or divided) by 2 (or near that). So:
Expected strengths from 1 probe at 32AU: 3.47-5.21
Expected strengths from 1 probe at 64AU: 1.74-2.6

If the case is they have changed 1 probe strenght so that 8 probes become the same as 4, so that has been divided by 2, also. Thus expected strength for 32 AU would be the same as it was for 64 AU, right? And that is exactly what I see: 2.6 = 2.6

If that was the case of "no bonuses at all" - we would've got much lesser strenght expected: 1.32-1.99 for 32AU probe

Edit:
Gnorki Balanovski, I don't know and I'm not the one who will start that. Especially when what I have does not work anymore.

Posted - 2011.06.22 08:51:00 - [14]

 

You will need an Nvidia card to take full advantage of the probing mechanics.

Posted - 2011.06.22 09:05:00 - [16]

 

Who makes all these stupid decisions at CCP?

I didn’t know that all probes didn’t contribute to the scan (i was using 7 probes) so when i read the patch notes i though “great, scanning will be much better”. Now you’re telling me that i have to train to get back to where i was? I’m starting to get real tired of this ****!

Posted - 2011.06.22 09:30:00 - [18]

 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson

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I can confirm that probe strength has been reduced.

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Then we should get a free remap as i don't see why i should have to train a skill that i'm no longer mapped for, just so i have the same abilities that i had yesterday.

Posted - 2011.06.22 15:06:00 - [20]

 

(Yet another) Known issue:

Originally by: CCP Veritas

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Originally by: CCP Veritas

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Originally by: Orphan World

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Either that, or something is making a whole pile of astrometrics modifiers fall away.

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I'm currently investigating an issue which might be causing exactly that

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Try completely emptying your launchers of all ammo then reloading. Should reset things.

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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:19:00 - [22]

 

Originally by: Esternia Celsian

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as for me it's WINcarna 8-probe scanning ftw

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Read this topic carefully and you won't be that sure.

Does anyone have any news? I've been told of a bug, that makes only 4 probes contribute to scanning. Will check it myself a little later.

Posted - 2011.06.22 22:34:00 - [24]

 

Originally by: Hannibal Ord

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You will need an Nvidia card to take full advantage of the probing mechanics.

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And a license for the use of that.

And a monthly fee of $10 in order for us to process the scan results.

I hope you understand, it's meant to be that way - people spend a lot of money on medical imaging, and it shouldn't be any different here.

Posted - 2011.06.22 22:42:00 - [26]

 

Confirming probing has been nerfed.

I used to scan my high-sec exit with 4 probes at 2au. Now takes 4 probes at 1 au to nail it.

Posted - 2011.06.22 23:39:00 - [28]

 

Still made a check more. The above situation, when 4 "big" probes does not contribute, is seen when all the probes are on the same horyzon with the signature. If they are higher or lower - then those probes do have an impact.

Still, I don't understand a reason for that.

Posted - 2011.06.23 08:49:00 - [30]

 

Originally by: MisterAl tt1

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Still made a check more. The above situation, when 4 "big" probes does not contribute, is seen when all the probes are on the same horyzon with the signature. If they are higher or lower - then those probes do have an impact.

Still, I don't understand a reason for that.

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Im pretty terrible at probing, but i thought you shouldnt let the probes sit in the radius of another probe?

So instead of making cube shapes try a cross with only the very tips of the probes touching the sig. I could be wrong tho, i dont have much experience at it, but thats what i usually do.