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Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.16 12:54:00 - [1]
 

I want an honest response to the following hypothetical questions.

If I were to Donate a few million US Dollars to CCP would they then be able to hire more people and turn out expansions faster and in better quality?


I realize that money dose not solve anything and money can't fix stupid but I still wonder sometimes if having more money and to that end more resources would in any way help CCP become more efficient at their job.

They are rolling out Incarna 1 CQ at a time and it's taking so long for them to do so when most larger gaming Devs would take a fraction of the time. I wonder is money and man power a factor?


If I wanted to directly influence gameplay changes could I not just Buy CCP?

Alpine 69
Rubbish Superheroes
Posted - 2011.06.16 12:59:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Alpine 69 on 16/06/2011 12:59:19
I'm not sure what kind of type firm CCP games is, but if they have shares for sale then you should be able to go ahead and buy 51%. As a result of that you should be able to exert some major influence over their decision making.

Katra Novac
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:01:00 - [3]
 

Money and man power is always a factor.

How money and man power is used is also a factor.

Davich MacGregor
Minmatar
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:01:00 - [4]
 

They are working on rolling DUST out next year some time.

They are working on making EVE free to pay and yet profitable at the same time to coincide with free to play DUST roll out.

They are working on making their 'stuff' less hackable.

So, you see, they have their hands full working on all these things at the same time.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:04:00 - [5]
 

You forgot developing World of Darkness.

Jason1138
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:04:00 - [6]
 

they're clearly spending more time implementing micro transactions than they are doing anything content wise. giving them a few million wouldn't change anything

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:04:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Davich MacGregor
They are working on rolling DUST out next year some time.

They are working on making EVE free to pay and yet profitable at the same time to coincide with free to play DUST roll out.

They are working on making their 'stuff' less hackable.

So, you see, they have their hands full working on all these things at the same time.


If their hands are full then why not give them some more hands?

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:05:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Katra Novac
Money and man power is always a factor.

How money and man power is used is also a factor.


^this

Throwing money at a "problem" doesnt always solve it.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.16 13:59:00 - [9]
 

That would last one whole expansion cycle probably...

Do something better and donate to me and I'll make a game to rival EVE Twisted Evil

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.06.16 14:07:00 - [10]
 

If you offer enough money to the shareholders, they will sell you their shares until you have enough to control the company. Same as with every other company.

Giving them directly some money just like this? I don't think that this will work. They will pocket your money and continue their usual way, nothing will change.

Jose Black
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.06.16 14:36:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Jose Black on 16/06/2011 14:38:14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks's_law
Edit: direct link got screwed by forum

HostageTaker
Gallente
Band of Freelancers
Posted - 2011.06.16 15:18:00 - [12]
 

You'd be better off spending those millions on keys of coke and really expensive *****s...

#winning

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.16 15:23:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
If you offer enough money to the shareholders, they will sell you their shares until you have enough to control the company. Same as with every other company.

Giving them directly some money just like this? I don't think that this will work. They will pocket your money and continue their usual way, nothing will change.

Gwenywell Shumuku
Posted - 2011.06.16 15:26:00 - [14]
 

NO, money is not the problem here. If you would donate them a few millions, nothing would change. They probably would spend it on some new projects, but not on EVE.

Thats what they do since the bought Whitewolf.

Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.16 17:07:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
If you offer enough money to the shareholders, they will sell you their shares until you have enough to control the company. Same as with every other company.

Giving them directly some money just like this? I don't think that this will work. They will pocket your money and continue their usual way, nothing will change.


So if I gain at least 51% of the shares then they will have to answer to me on things?


Dose it really work like that?

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.06.16 17:23:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Gnulpie
If you offer enough money to the shareholders, they will sell you their shares until you have enough to control the company. Same as with every other company.

Giving them directly some money just like this? I don't think that this will work. They will pocket your money and continue their usual way, nothing will change.


So if I gain at least 51% of the shares then they will have to answer to me on things?


Dose it really work like that?[/quote

Yes.

Aleria Angelis
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.06.16 17:28:00 - [17]
 

No

CCP is an independant games company, their shares are not for sale (thank god).


Cyaxares II
Posted - 2011.06.16 17:39:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Cyaxares II on 16/06/2011 17:40:23
Originally by: Aleria Angelis
No

CCP is an independant games company, their shares are not for sale (thank god).



Whether their shares are up for sale or not is entirely up to their shareholders.

I don't feel like writing the same post for the third or fourth time, so here is a link to one of its previous incarnations.

Also CCP has placed several bonds over the years and almost certainly has outstanding debt with banks - buying shares might net you some influence but CCP's creditors certainly would like to have a word with you push the management into going non-profit.

Katrishar
Minmatar
Rayn Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.16 18:26:00 - [19]
 

If I were a multi millionaire I would reach out to CCP to offer them a few million to make targeted improvements to the game that are commonly requested by the subscriber base. I would also ask for it in writing that the millions go toward Eve online.

CCP Guard


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.16 18:43:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Xenuria
I want an honest response to the following hypothetical questions.

If I were to Donate a few million US Dollars to CCP would they then be able to hire more people and turn out expansions faster and in better quality?


I realize that money dose not solve anything and money can't fix stupid but I still wonder sometimes if having more money and to that end more resources would in any way help CCP become more efficient at their job.

They are rolling out Incarna 1 CQ at a time and it's taking so long for them to do so when most larger gaming Devs would take a fraction of the time. I wonder is money and man power a factor?


If I wanted to directly influence gameplay changes could I not just Buy CCP?


You would be wise to send the money directly to my personal account. I know this company in and out so I would be good at distributing the money for you. Special favor for you, my friend.

Rolling Eyes

Terrante
Posted - 2011.06.16 18:43:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Terrante on 16/06/2011 18:43:33
Originally by: Xenuria
I want an honest response to the following hypothetical questions.

If I were to Donate a few million US Dollars to CCP would they then be able to hire more people and turn out expansions faster and in better quality?


I realize that money dose not solve anything and money can't fix stupid but I still wonder sometimes if having more money and to that end more resources would in any way help CCP become more efficient at their job.

They are rolling out Incarna 1 CQ at a time and it's taking so long for them to do so when most larger gaming Devs would take a fraction of the time. I wonder is money and man power a factor?


If I wanted to directly influence gameplay changes could I not just Buy CCP?


Problem is, that you would have to cash-out at least 2 Investment Companies, Novator Partners and General Catalyst Partners who are active investors as they prolly are more interested in RoI and not content of a game.


External Factors
Posted - 2011.06.16 18:46:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: CCP Guard
Originally by: Xenuria
I want an honest response to the following hypothetical questions.

If I were to Donate a few million US Dollars to CCP would they then be able to hire more people and turn out expansions faster and in better quality?


I realize that money dose not solve anything and money can't fix stupid but I still wonder sometimes if having more money and to that end more resources would in any way help CCP become more efficient at their job.

They are rolling out Incarna 1 CQ at a time and it's taking so long for them to do so when most larger gaming Devs would take a fraction of the time. I wonder is money and man power a factor?


If I wanted to directly influence gameplay changes could I not just Buy CCP?


You would be wise to send the money directly to my personal account. I know this company in and out so I would be good at distributing the money for you. Special favor for you, my friend.

Rolling Eyes


First you must send him 1 million of your own money. He will then double this and return it to you Cool

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:00:00 - [23]
 

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Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:10:00 - [24]
 

For every million you send me, I'll send CCP 2x!

GM Zerat

Posted - 2011.06.16 19:13:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: GM Zerat on 17/06/2011 22:25:04
Of course the more money CCP has, the more it can invest in hardware, personnel and other resources. This would help Eve, Dust and WoD and any other gaming projects (you could probably specify that the money only go into Eve development if you wish). CCP is a company made by gamers, and it tries to invest as much money as it can back into the games it's making.

I'm not aware of any great need for donations and I'm not exactly sure how those are handled, but I'm sure it would be of help though. So if you have a few million lying around that you'd like to get rid of for a good cause, feel free to donate Cool.

Use this page to get in contact with ccp: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/home.aspx

p.s. Don't trust Guard, he's a devious one he is.

Millie Clode
Amarr
Insert Cool Name Here
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:17:00 - [26]
 

Well if you want to transport those millions safely to iceland, I have a boat and I'll gladly brave the perils of like sharks and the kriegsmarine in the north atlantic on your behalf.

If you contract it all to me i'll meet you in Iceland soon :)

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:19:00 - [27]
 

If I donate a few million can I get a region named after me?

I can see it now, the "Bill Gates" region of New Eden.Very Happy

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:20:00 - [28]
 

lol bring up cash and you get not only blue bars but red ones too.Rolling Eyes

So thats what it takes.

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:21:00 - [29]
 

With the current Icelandic real ISK down the drain wouldn't a few million buy Reyjavik?

Also at CCP: Nice tries, but it is clear I should hold the money and then give it to trustworthy characters like TOMB and Hellmar (well maybe not hellmar hed use it to fund a cosplay event)

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.06.16 19:22:00 - [30]
 

Trololololol


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