| Author |
Topic |
Vasentic
The Remnant Legion.
The Remnant Legion |
Posted - 2011.06.13 05:36:00 - [ 31]
Thanks to Lucian James Vasentic's heart grew three sizes this day.
<3 Friday Night Lights <3 |
Firid Soulbane
Kickass inc
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 05:47:00 - [ 32]
I like the fact that you raged about my pricing was too high and that i should give some BFF luvin. Then you turn around and steal 10 bn from your BFF bros without blinking an eye.
I actually thought you were an allright guy, just a bit caught up by your emotions now and then.
Anyhow, i hope you will enjoy your new life in Brick.
Be good. |
Sovox
Amarr
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2011.06.13 06:28:00 - [ 33]
Man you WTF guys are so lucky! I am not even joking...  |
Cognac
Infinite Improbability Inc
|
Posted - 2011.06.13 07:04:00 - [ 34]
funniest troll ever... evaarrrr |
g0ldfinger07 |
Posted - 2011.06.13 08:43:00 - [ 35]
 Originally by: Firid Soulbane
I like the fact that you raged about my pricing was too high and that i should give some BFF luvin. Then you turn around and steal 10 bn from your BFF bros without blinking an eye.
I actually thought you were an allright guy, just a bit caught up by your emotions now and then.
Anyhow, i hope you will enjoy your new life in Brick.
Be good.
Lol you guys are bickering over 10 billion With all the Fc'n and constant fun lucian james gave everyone in the north you should of gave him that outta love for all he did for wtf. |
Lovelocke
Enlightened Industries |
Posted - 2011.06.13 09:17:00 - [ 36]
It has been fun flying with Lucian, Nairu and the other Sick Tight FC's. It's a real shame you're moving to Brick, a neut to us. As I've already said good luck down there with them. |
ovenproofjet
Caldari
Therapy. |
Posted - 2011.06.13 09:50:00 - [ 37]
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2011.06.13 09:56:00 - [ 38]
Its like you have not been watching the death of Morsus Mihi nor the impersonation of a piece of wet tissue paper by Razor. With the current game mechanics, there is only one measure of an alliance's power and survivability. The number of Titans fielded. Every isk you had should have been going into putting an alt of your leaders in as many Titans as you could lay your hands on.
This should have been the stated strategic goal of your alliance and all spare nationalized income bent towards it. Its attitudes like yours that killed the NC and had them crying about the unfairness of PL and the DRF bringing so many supercaps.
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Sa'Shena
Amarr
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2011.06.13 10:37:00 - [ 39]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Its like you have not been watching the death of Morsus Mihi nor the impersonation of a piece of wet tissue paper by Razor. With the current game mechanics, there is only one measure of an alliance's power and survivability. The number of Titans fielded. Every isk you had should have been going into putting an alt of your leaders in as many Titans as you could lay your hands on.
This should have been the stated strategic goal of your alliance and all spare nationalized income bent towards it. Its attitudes like yours that killed the NC and had them crying about the unfairness of PL and the DRF bringing so many supercaps.
This goon does have a point. |
SunburnedFrog
Capital Systems INC
Shadow of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2011.06.13 11:14:00 - [ 40]
ive been laughing my butt off whilst reading this thread.... its funny because with all the carebearing you gheys do and your crying over 10bn??? even WIfail didnt cry when i stole 50bn from them .. suck it up , take it on the chin . think of all that tech you have acess to .. on a side note i would like to point out lucian deserves that isk 10 fold, personally i think hes a pr1ck but he has dedicated alot of time to organise fun shizz for many people .. [23:17:50] M'Tar > Sunburned your a F**king **** of a **** ****** so ***** you ***** and **** *&*((^^*(** your mother ***^&&(**  |
Lucian James
Sick Tight
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2011.06.13 13:01:00 - [ 41]
What amazes me is how I was able to keep this secret from alliance leadership for nearly 4 days.. with grunts and leadership of other corps knowing.. with alphastar forwarding corp mails and even while another corp was trying to get into Brick.
Usually anything that old floating around would be tossed up in my face like so much... oh ccp will prolly edit that part :p Goes to show you how little faith ppl have in existing WTF leadership.
Thanks for keeping that to yourselves as asked, gentlemen.
-Lucian James |
Lucian James
Sick Tight
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2011.06.13 13:05:00 - [ 42]
Edited by: Lucian James on 13/06/2011 14:43:37Edited by: Lucian James on 13/06/2011 13:06:13 Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Its like you have not been watching the death of Morsus Mihi nor the impersonation of a piece of wet tissue paper by Razor. With the current game mechanics, there is only one measure of an alliance's power and survivability. The number of Titans fielded. Every isk you had should have been going into putting an alt of your leaders in as many Titans as you could lay your hands on.
This should have been the stated strategic goal of your alliance and all spare nationalized income bent towards it. Its attitudes like yours that killed the NC and had them crying about the unfairness of PL and the DRF bringing so many supercaps.
Actually it's the greed of those that sat on endless moons and kept that money to themselves. For that and other reasons, when WTF was formed it was agreed that moon goo would NEVER goto supercaps.. until someone came along that wanted one.. it's not like we had the money to have built even one thus far let alone the multiple supers it'd take to win that war, Mynas :p You dirty old Scot *smooch* mmm tastes like sheepsex! j/k I <3 you Mynas! -Lucy EDIT: Oh yeah.. as it appears I have to state the obvious here.. several corps in WTF had supercap programs and were able to produce free and cheap supers for their corpmates; alliance isk was not needed for these purchases. We're really not interested in petting Goons just to build Sage a titan before Pure Blind gets run over.. _*insert heavy petting joke here*_ Captain Obvious!!! Where are you?!?! |
CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P |
Posted - 2011.06.13 15:33:00 - [ 43]
Moved from CAOD. |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2011.06.13 15:54:00 - [ 44]
Welcome,
The Fail here is in trusting somebody called "Lucian James".
This would not have happened if it was "James Lucian" that was trusted.
See, it's simple to get your head around really. |
Imperian
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2011.06.13 15:59:00 - [ 45]
I would give Lucian a free titan to leave my alliance |
Buu Beys |
Posted - 2011.06.13 17:03:00 - [ 46]
Originally by: g0ldfinger07
Lol you guys are bickering over 10 billion With all the Fc'n and constant fun lucian james gave everyone in the north you should of gave him that outta love for all he did for wtf.
The truth is spoken right here... Originally by: SunburnedFrog
...its funny because with all the carebearing you gheys do and your crying over 10bn???...
on a side note i would like to point out lucian deserves that isk 10 fold, ...he has dedicated alot of time to organise fun shizz for many people ..
...and again here. Really? Going "public" with a tearshed like this over such an insignificant amount of isk? Really, get a grip. Lucian is more than just a CEO, alliance director or FC. The man has bent over backwards for his corp, alliance, and the whole NC to actually bring "content" to people. His fleets and roams weren't just your average roams. They were fun on a scale not really seen with any other FC. Anyone that's been in the NC and has flown with him will attest to that. Look at any fleet that started up in Tribute in the last couple of months. People were begging and screaming to get people in fleets. Lucian posted a fleet, and immediately people were coming out of the woodwork to join in. That right there speaks volumes. He's proven his loyalty all around. However, his loyalty first and foremost is to his own corp and its members above his own interests. He could have cleaned out all the WTF coffers and corp hangars if he chose to. Instead, he took what he considered to be Sick Tight's fair share (which he would have been denied had he asked) and nothing more. And that amount really is a small "severance" and to cover the costs of the move. And really, for all the tech moons WTF have (until PL / DRF / NC. come take them), it shouldn't take very long for WTF to "bounce back" from this. So get a grip. |
Final8ty
Caldari
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 17:54:00 - [ 47]
Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 18:30:15
Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 17:56:06
Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 17:55:07
Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 17:54:50
The only thing people need to get a grip on is no one cares about the 10 bill, 10 bill is nothing you know it we know it but some people still cant work it out & it seems that some people have no comprehension of principles of the matter. |
Lt banaan
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 17:59:00 - [ 48]
In my personal opinion i regret the way Lucian left, he was a good fc, he did alot for the alliance no doubt there, and he arranged ****loads of fleets wich were entertaining but not fcing at his best due to smoking that much pot as he seems to do :D
Anyway gonna miss Nairu the most actualy , had the most fun in his fleets.
Good luck for brick squad and cu ingame |
Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:10:00 - [ 49]
Originally by: Lucian James
1. I took about 1/3 total pilots and 1/3 the isk&goo value only.
2. If we end up with less than 1/3rd, WTF will get a refund.
3. Better spent on our exit than a personal Titan for Sage.
4. I have had numerous ppl of high level corp leadership report to me that Sage has been skimming isk for a while now.. hell.. I ****ed off half my old corp by not taking their word for it and we split.. That and Sage offered to skim isk for me if we got a couple new tech moons to build me an erebus.
I am not the thief here, but perhaps you can investigate who is.
I tried to leave without drama.. but you label me a thief in public.. so I will call you out for who you really are: purely two-faced.
-Lucian James
CEO of Sick Tight
QFT here. The IEEE brands the above statement as fully of truthyness. Having an extremely high quotient of truth. I wonder if there needs to be an investigation into those laying claim? |
Me Lub'YeeLongTiem |
Posted - 2011.06.13 18:27:00 - [ 50]
Edited by: Me Lub''YeeLongTiem on 13/06/2011 18:27:23
Posting to Confirm that Lucian James is Pro ninja. |
M'Tar
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 18:50:00 - [ 51]
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
QFT here. The IEEE brands the above statement as fully of truthyness. Having an extremely high quotient of truth. I wonder if there needs to be an investigation into those laying claim?
lol, ok, for the mentally challenged. 1. He took all the isk available to him, and all the moon goo he could get. Its not 1/3rd, its not all. We will survive, indeed a common comment is "It was worth 10 bill to get shot of him. Did not take 1/3 of our pilots. He was trying to, but most declined. 2. Well, I guess he needs a chance to prove this. 3. If he had jut left, like most corps leave most alliances, I'm sure he would have had no problems, except he wouldn't have had an 'excuse' to steal. We have never hindered anyone leaving. 4. Utter bull****. Our alliance keeps open accounts in a google spreadsheet. It's kinda hard to skim when everyone else can see what's happening. It is true that this has happened under other alliances, but then they are not open about where the isk goes. So, just ask anyone who was at the alliance meeting, or hey, what the hell, read some of his contradictory posts. The facts, as seen by someone who is not trying to pretend to be someone else and was there (like coming into alliance chat last night Lucian), are that Lucian pre planned a needless evac, and stole isk and goo. That's what annoys most of us. He could have been honest, he chose not to be, and created drama from nothing. He is basically just upset and throwing a tantrum as he was kicked as alliance combat commander. He was respected (if not for his 'diplomatic' skills) as someone who brought some fun into fleets and a good public speaker. Now he is just a thief. |
Xorth Adimus
Caldari
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2011.06.13 18:53:00 - [ 52]
For these and many other reasons (in particular joining the BFF NC fail squad) I and many others left Troll's company a long time ago, best decision ever!
Sad to see not much has changed for my old brothers in arms.
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BusterHighman
Caldari
Sick Tight
|
Posted - 2011.06.13 19:07:00 - [ 53]
It's mildly adorable how quickly WTF seems to have forgotten which corp(s) sunk a metric buttload of isk and time into building a badass NC alliance while others felt it necessary to keep to themselves and not work with the rest of the alliance during fleets. Here's some cheese to go with your whine, bros. Bai! |
Man Fantastic |
Posted - 2011.06.13 19:07:00 - [ 54]
Originally by: M'Tar
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
1. He took all the isk available to him, and all the moon goo he could get. Its not 1/3rd, its not all. We will survive, indeed a common comment is "It was worth 10 bill to get shot of him. Did not take 1/3 of our pilots. He was trying to, but most declined.
if 10B ISK was more than 1/3 of what WTF had and your alliance leader didn't skim, that's pretty pathetic considering how many tec moons the pure blind alliances had. |
nairu krop |
Posted - 2011.06.13 19:16:00 - [ 55]
i remember giving 2 bil worth of ships to start the alliance reimbursment, and another bil for the startup of the program when wtf first started.
and yet when i fc a fleets of 60+ dudes using a vagabond, i get zero reimbursment from the alliance when it dies.
there was zero benefit for me to remain in the alliance. |
Final8ty
Caldari
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 19:54:00 - [ 56]
Well thank god this is just a game because if people thought not liking an alliance,corporation is justification for stealing you would find life real hard. |
Satallius |
Posted - 2011.06.13 19:59:00 - [ 57]
How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous. |
Final8ty
Caldari
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 20:10:00 - [ 58]
Originally by: Satallius
How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first. You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world. |
Satallius |
Posted - 2011.06.13 20:35:00 - [ 59]
Originally by: Final8ty
Originally by: Satallius
How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
Err no. Theft implies taking something that doesn't belong to you. Since they were in the alliance, and help put that ISK there, ie: The alliance ISK ie: belonging in part to them, they were entitled to their fair share, which, if the story in this thread is accurate, is all he took. |
Final8ty
Caldari
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos |
Posted - 2011.06.13 21:14:00 - [ 60]
Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 21:16:15 Originally by: Satallius
Originally by: Final8ty
Originally by: Satallius
How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
Err no. Theft implies taking something that doesn't belong to you. Since they were in the alliance, and help put that ISK there, ie: The alliance ISK ie: belonging in part to them, they were entitled to their fair share, which, if the story in this thread is accurate, is all he took.
He was not the alliance so the ISK did not belong to him & he did not take part of it he took all of what was in the wallet & if there was more then he would of took more, he was also claiming to be taking isk on the behalf of others in support which have then sent emails saying that they are not doing anything of the sort. If everything is how you make out then there would be no need in the way he went about it all. |
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