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Topic |
Zarah Jade |
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:45:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Zarah Jade on 12/06/2011 16:48:43
Edited by: Zarah Jade on 12/06/2011 16:46:37
sorry im a little ****ed off and frustrated at the moment. i'm not usually one to complain but i really dont understand ccp's point in this.
i log in in 1.0 space this morning and all of a sudden a new channel "incursion" opens up. after a few minutes i realize theres some type of invasion war going on from the limited info. i'm new to game and still learning the ropes so i cautiously approach one of the battles in 1.0 zone. several high level players there picking off ships so i join in...not too tough.
i go to another 1.0 system...no red npc's. find a jump gate and it sends me into point blank range of a dozen large vessels. seriously i'm destoyed in 1 second.
little ****ed because it took me a while so save isk and fit my destroyer. i understand eve is a tough game and your going to get killed often. i accept that but launching noobs point blank into situations theres absolutely no hope of surviving is aggrevating to say the least. i could understand if there was a warning or if it was 0.5 space or something. or **** launch me 100 meters out so i can survey the scene and realize i'm in over my head. in a noob zone ccp left me with zero tactical decision. i was basically sacrificed for what? its 1.0 space.
sorry for whine...i'm not a carebear. i'll take my lumps and save for another ship. i'm more ****ed because as a noob learning in 1.0 i wasn't even given a chance. |
Abrazzar |
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:49:00 - [ 2]
This is a important EVE lesson for a new player: If you don't know what you are doing, you will most likely die horribly.
Sorry, you had to learn it the hard way. |
Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:53:00 - [ 3]
Welcome to Eve. |
GateScout |
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:56:00 - [ 4]
 Originally by: Zarah Jade
i wasn't even given a chance.
A "chance" for what? Experience Incursions without risk? Learning? Warning? What? I'm not trying to be a ****, I'm just curious. What would have been a better experience? Part of the interesting aspect of Eve is the risk and the emotion you're feeling now. Soon you'll crave and seek it out. However, it can be a bit tough at the beginning. |
Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162 |
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:57:00 - [ 5]
You may want to do a little more research in the future. Eve won't hold your hand. |
Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P |
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:57:00 - [ 6]
Chalk it up to a lession learnt, and then put it behind you. This will not be the last ship you will lose to situations that appear completely unfair and unreasonable, but with each one you will be a little wiser and smarter.
Situational awareness is everything in this game, I've been playing for a little over two years and I'm still learning. |
Orion Zero |
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:57:00 - [ 7]
Indeed welcome to Eve.
Incursions are top level PvE content, so as a new character you will want to avoid them. If you find yourself in an incursion system (hard to miss), leave. Come back in a few days once the incursion is over. You can always find where the incursions are on the incursion tab in your journal.
Good luck! |
Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.12 16:58:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: Miilla on 12/06/2011 16:59:23
That's nothing, if you are in the Erada constellation near Rens, you will have the Incrusion boucing between 50% and 3% as they farm it all month long.
Is there a limit on the duration of Incursions or how long you can farm it?
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Vastek Non |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:00:00 - [ 9]
Edited by: Vastek Non on 12/06/2011 17:00:58 Originally by: Zarah Jade
Edited by: Zarah Jade on 12/06/2011 16:48:43
Edited by: Zarah Jade on 12/06/2011 16:46:37
sorry im a little ****ed off and frustrated at the moment. i'm not usually one to complain but i really dont understand ccp's point in this.
i log in in 1.0 space this morning and all of a sudden a new channel "incursion" opens up. after a few minutes i realize theres some type of invasion war going on from the limited info. i'm new to game and still learning the ropes so i cautiously approach one of the battles in 1.0 zone. several high level players there picking off ships so i join in...not too tough.
i go to another 1.0 system...no red npc's. find a jump gate and it sends me into point blank range of a dozen large vessels. seriously i'm destoyed in 1 second.
little ****ed because it took me a while so save isk and fit my destroyer. i understand eve is a tough game and your going to get killed often. i accept that but launching noobs point blank into situations theres absolutely no hope of surviving is aggrevating to say the least. i could understand if there was a warning or if it was 0.5 space or something. or **** launch me 100 meters out so i can survey the scene and realize i'm in over my head. in a noob zone ccp left me with zero tactical decision. i was basically sacrificed for what? its 1.0 space.
sorry for whine...i'm not a carebear. i'll take my lumps and save for another ship. i'm more ****ed because as a noob learning in 1.0 i wasn't even given a chance.
I woke up yesterday morning to the sound of gunfire. Sounded like a heavy machine gun. I had a popgun lying next to my bed, so feeling all tough and tetchy, decided i'd take a look. On the way what looked to be a salvo of rockets flew overhead. When I finally got there it was a heap of big, tank like things and guys with assault rifles. Seriously, I was gone in like 1 second  See what I did there? |
Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162 |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:01:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 12/06/2011 16:59:23
That's nothing, if you are in the Erada constellation near Rens, you will have the Incrusion boucing between 50% and 3% as they farm it all month long.
Is there a limit on the duration of Incursions or how long you can farm it?
Yes, only a couple of days before they move out, so you're blatantly lying. |
Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.12 17:03:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Drykor
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 12/06/2011 16:59:23
That's nothing, if you are in the Erada constellation near Rens, you will have the Incrusion boucing between 50% and 3% as they farm it all month long.
Is there a limit on the duration of Incursions or how long you can farm it?
Yes, only a couple of days before they move out, so you're blatantly lying.
Oh good so it does disappear, then today is their last day :) thank god, back to normality, but I do miss the oppertunity to troll an entire constellation. |
Takseen |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:07:00 - [ 12]
I thought there were no Incursion gatecamps in highsec? |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:15:00 - [ 13]
Well, the problem is there are NO noob zones in EVE.
But a warning may be appropriate i think. |
Kyo Haku
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:16:00 - [ 14]
This is why we read Evelopedia. Seriously. |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
|
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:21:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Karak Terrel
Well, the problem is there are NO noob zones in EVE.
But a warning may be appropriate i think.
There are big warnings all over the incursion systems. And 1.0 starter systems are save noob zones. There won't be Incursions per CCP. @OP: Welcome to Eve. Nuff said. |
Sir Oliver Midwestshire
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:29:00 - [ 16]
So you are complaining because you decided to run into a fight without knowing what an incursion is, without any experience and without decent weapons?
Yeah, you deserved it. Not CCP's fault. We all got killed when we were noobs but we learned our mistakes, you are trying to blame CCP for stupidity on your part.
When I thought my crappy fit Catalyst was going to survive in low sec I got destroyed and I was upset for a few minutes. Then I learned it was my bad for jumping into lowsec within my first week and without a good ship.
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Zarah Jade |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:33:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Chalk it up to a lession learnt, and then put it behind you. This will not be the last ship you will lose to situations that appear completely unfair and unreasonable, but with each one you will be a little wiser and smarter.
Situational awareness is everything in this game, I've been playing for a little over two years and I'm still learning.
yeah i guess, i'll get over it but whats frustrating part is there wasn't a chance to be aware of the situation or make a tactical move...it was activate jump gate > look at all the red +'s at point blank range > count to 1 > pod back to base. |
Zarah Jade |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:37:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Sir Oliver Midwestshire
So you are complaining because you decided to run into a fight without knowing what an incursion is, without any experience and without decent weapons?
Yeah, you deserved it. Not CCP's fault. We all got killed when we were noobs but we learned our mistakes, you are trying to blame CCP for stupidity on your part.
When I thought my crappy fit Catalyst was going to survive in low sec I got destroyed and I was upset for a few minutes. Then I learned it was my bad for jumping into lowsec within my first week and without a good ship.
sorry but i didnt expect to have to read for hours on the internet before making any move in the game. i figured being in 1.0 i had a decent chance to participate at least long enough to get myself the hell out of there if it turned out to be tougher than i could handle. and i had a nicely outfitted thrasher setup as a tank with 5 turrets. again i didnt think i needed a battle cruiser two weeks into playing the game to participate in a 1.0 espace encounter. lesson learned for sure... |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:41:00 - [ 19]
Op, you should have researched incursions at the eve university wiki first or the eve online wiki, or eve survival guide.
Chances are if you dont know what it is, it will kill you. lol.
Welcome to eve. |
Takseen |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:41:00 - [ 20]
Oh I misunderstood your earlier post. You actually jumped into a Vanguard+ Incursion site on your own and got popped. That's absolutely totally fair, its even there in the journal "Forces required 5-10 players". On the plus side, you only lost a destroyer. Many "veterans" in the first couple of days of Incursions lost ships worth billions of ISK by making the same mistake you did. You got to learn the lesson cheaply:) |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
|
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:41:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Zarah Jade
*snip*
two weeks into playing the game to participate in a 1.0 espace encounter. lesson learned for sure...
Incursion is the crown of Team-PVE Be rather happy that Eve is such a free place (read: your freedom which comes with responsibility) that you are able to wander in such a situation being just 2 weeks old. |
Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:43:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Zarah Jade
Originally by: Sir Oliver Midwestshire
So you are complaining because you decided to run into a fight without knowing what an incursion is, without any experience and without decent weapons?
Yeah, you deserved it. Not CCP's fault. We all got killed when we were noobs but we learned our mistakes, you are trying to blame CCP for stupidity on your part.
When I thought my crappy fit Catalyst was going to survive in low sec I got destroyed and I was upset for a few minutes. Then I learned it was my bad for jumping into lowsec within my first week and without a good ship.
sorry but i didnt expect to have to read for hours on the internet before making any move in the game. i figured being in 1.0 i had a decent chance to participate at least long enough to get myself the hell out of there if it turned out to be tougher than i could handle. and i had a nicely outfitted thrasher setup as a tank with 5 turrets. again i didnt think i needed a battle cruiser two weeks into playing the game to participate in a 1.0 espace encounter. lesson learned for sure...
I get why you're frustrated but EvE really IS a tough place and stuff like that is going to continue to happen while you're here. Fly safe! |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:43:00 - [ 23]
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:55:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Zarah Jade
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Chalk it up to a lession learnt, and then put it behind you. This will not be the last ship you will lose to situations that appear completely unfair and unreasonable, but with each one you will be a little wiser and smarter.
Situational awareness is everything in this game, I've been playing for a little over two years and I'm still learning.
yeah i guess, i'll get over it but whats frustrating part is there wasn't a chance to be aware of the situation or make a tactical move...it was activate jump gate > look at all the red +'s at point blank range > count to 1 > pod back to base.
Too true, the question is why didn't CCP include a little pop-up warning that your route is going to take you through an Incursion. No one will ever accuse them of making this easy for the new guy. An alliance mate had a similar experience when he visited Hi-sec a while back, and lost a fully fitted Machariel. So we learned the lession, set your autopilot and then check via the journal that your route will not take you through an Incursion. Fly safe... |
Zarah Jade |
Posted - 2011.06.12 17:59:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Op, you should have researched incursions at the eve university wiki first or the eve online wiki, or eve survival guide.
Chances are if you dont know what it is, it will kill you. lol.
Welcome to eve.
lol thanks...thats going to be my new rule of thumb. |
Zarah Jade |
Posted - 2011.06.12 18:03:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Takseen
Oh I misunderstood your earlier post. You actually jumped into a Vanguard+ Incursion site on your own and got popped. That's absolutely totally fair, its even there in the journal "Forces required 5-10 players". On the plus side, you only lost a destroyer. Many "veterans" in the first couple of days of Incursions lost ships worth billions of ISK by making the same mistake you did. You got to learn the lesson cheaply:)
ok maybe i dont feel so bad now. learning curve in eve is freaking steep. maybe i over-reacted a bit then. |
Takseen |
Posted - 2011.06.12 18:03:00 - [ 27]
Edited by: Takseen on 12/06/2011 18:03:00 Originally by: Desert Ice78
Too true, the question is why didn't CCP include a little pop-up warning that your route is going to take you through an Incursion. No one will ever accuse them of making this easy for the new guy.
An alliance mate had a similar experience when he visited Hi-sec a while back, and lost a fully fitted Machariel. So we learned the lession, set your autopilot and then check via the journal that your route will not take you through an Incursion.
OP lost her ship by warping to an Incursion vanguard beacon, then activating the acceleration gate. That your friend managed to do the same thing in a Machariel while on autopilot is impressive:) |
Katra Novac |
Posted - 2011.06.12 18:03:00 - [ 28]
Reminds me of that saying 'curiosity killed the cat'. |
Zarah Jade |
Posted - 2011.06.12 18:13:00 - [ 29]
Edited by: Zarah Jade on 12/06/2011 18:17:56 Originally by: Desert Ice78
Originally by: Zarah Jade
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Chalk it up to a lession learnt, and then put it behind you. This will not be the last ship you will lose to situations that appear completely unfair and unreasonable, but with each one you will be a little wiser and smarter.
Situational awareness is everything in this game, I've been playing for a little over two years and I'm still learning.
yeah i guess, i'll get over it but whats frustrating part is there wasn't a chance to be aware of the situation or make a tactical move...it was activate jump gate > look at all the red +'s at point blank range > count to 1 > pod back to base.
Too true, the question is why didn't CCP include a little pop-up warning that your route is going to take you through an Incursion. No one will ever accuse them of making this easy for the new guy.
An alliance mate had a similar experience when he visited Hi-sec a while back, and lost a fully fitted Machariel. So we learned the lession, set your autopilot and then check via the journal that your route will not take you through an Incursion.
Fly safe...
i got the popup but it basically told me of my objective. not whay i was about to face.i knew i was in an incursion area. i guess for any noobs like me reading this. the journal might be your best friend and a wise choice to check before some of these encounters. i hope i didn't sound like i was advocating turning 1.0 into carebear zone...at least not any more than it is. but it would have been nice maybe to get told at least once to "be very carefull or you will get your ass kicked noob, anywhere and everywhere, if you dont learn to use your other tools (ie...journal) before venturing into unknown encounters" if ccp tried to get that across in the starter tutorials...i didnt get it. i guess two weeks into eve i thought 1.0 was pretty harmless. i really dont mind these types of encounters anywhere and everywhere....just warn me once...i will accept my losses with no problem from there on out. but anyways....welcome to eve i guess... |
Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
|
Posted - 2011.06.12 18:20:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Zarah Jade
Edited by: Zarah Jade on 12/06/2011 18:17:56
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Originally by: Zarah Jade
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Chalk it up to a lession learnt, and then put it behind you. This will not be the last ship you will lose to situations that appear completely unfair and unreasonable, but with each one you will be a little wiser and smarter.
Situational awareness is everything in this game, I've been playing for a little over two years and I'm still learning.
yeah i guess, i'll get over it but whats frustrating part is there wasn't a chance to be aware of the situation or make a tactical move...it was activate jump gate > look at all the red +'s at point blank range > count to 1 > pod back to base.
Too true, the question is why didn't CCP include a little pop-up warning that your route is going to take you through an Incursion. No one will ever accuse them of making this easy for the new guy.
An alliance mate had a similar experience when he visited Hi-sec a while back, and lost a fully fitted Machariel. So we learned the lession, set your autopilot and then check via the journal that your route will not take you through an Incursion.
Fly safe...
i got the popup but it basically told me of my objective. not whay i was about to face.i knew i was in an incursion area. i guess for any noobs like me reading this. the journal might be your best friend and a wise choice to check before some of these encounters.
i hope i didn't sound like i was advocating turning 1.0 into carebear zone...at least not any more than it is. but it would have been nice maybe to get told at least once to "be very carefull or you will get your ass kicked noob, anywhere and everywhere, if you dont learn to use your other tools (ie...journal) before venturing into unknown encounters" if ccp tried to get that across in the starter tutorials...i didnt get it.
i guess two weeks into eve i thought 1.0 was pretty harmless. i really dont mind these types of encounters anywhere and everywhere....just warn me once...i will accept my losses with no problem from there on out. but anyways....welcome to eve i guess...
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